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[Anakronist]

Metacritic user score can NEVER be taken seriously. What you, as a potential customer, should do is read a few of the very negative ones, a few in the middle, and a few of the very positive ones. If what the positives states as good features is something you agree with and you disagree with what the negatives state about features then you will most likely enjoy the game.

ALOT of people get butthurt over the SMALLEST issue in a game, which is most likely the biggest issue in their entire life right up to now. Something like needing Origin is enough for people, who doesn't even want to buy the game because it is on Origin, to have them give it a 0. The fact that the crew is more outspoken about their sexual preferences and the fact that shepard CAN be of a sexual preference that doesn't appeal to people is also cause enough to give it a 0. Hell someone even stated that because you CAN make the game take out ALL dialogue choices for you then the game is only worthy of a 0.

People always want choices, then when they get choices and they get choiced they don't like but some that they do, then because they HAVE that choice they hate on the product... Goes to show what alot of people have been saying over the past few years (since consolization of the gaming industry, with the new consoles) that gamers are kids, even if they are adults. It sickens me that so few people can review a game and due to the smallest issue step it inot the dirt. Most of the stuff that people hate on was even known way before hand. Oh well, my days of looking at metacritic are over.

[sanadawarrior]

I like how whenever a game gets score bombed on metacritic detractors of the game try use it as evidence of gamers generally being unhappy with the game. Too bad user scores on sites other than metacritic don't agree:

Gamefly : 9.4
Gamespot : 8.7
Gameinformer: 9.5
Planet Xbox: 8.4
G4TV: 4.6(out of 5)

I wonder why? (Trolls are too lazy to score bomb them on every site... duh)

[Anakronist]

LeBurns wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I already know why.  Fanboys score-bomb games for the most childish reasons on that site all the time.  Thats all there is to it. 

Read my sig.  I added that quote when DA2 left it's mark.  It seems to apply here as well.

NOTE, if you are ticking off the fanboys, you are doing something WRONG.  Who the heck do you make a game for if you are not making it for the fans of the game?

BioWare can't blame this on just a new generation of fans.  These same fans still give good scores to other games. BioWare you are doing something wrong.  You are shooting yourself in the foot and then refusing to believe that you are holding the gun.

Honestly I thought after DA2 that BioWare was going to use ME3 to redeem themselves.  To make it right for their fans.  But then someone chose to give us this?  There is just no excuse they can use anymore.

I am sorry, but that is the point of the whole issue... The people, more than most, like 70% plus at the very least, have only rated one game, and you can guess which one ;P

[Farbautisonn]

Taciter wrote...

Haartian wrote...

brunomalta wrote...
Also, is i stated elsewhere. Most of the real low scores comes from people who expected a different ending.

One that does make any logical sense, preferably. With a tiny bit of intelligently written scenario, please.

Aaahhh yes, I was thinking about that... they may have avoided some of the flack if their script writers had bothered to peruse THIS in their downtime.

-Thanks for that link.

[Taciter]

Anakronist wrote...

...ALOT of people get butthurt over the SMALLEST issue in a game, which is most likely the biggest issue in their entire life right up to now...

Whilst I agree with most of what you stated, you have to bear in mind that, 'value' is a subjective concept. One persons trash is another persons treasure. It's not for us to dictate the legitimacy of their scores based on what we percieve to be the relative 'worth' of their criticisms or praise. But I agree, actually 'reading' the user posts, both good and bad, is a far better source of information than merely assessing the statistical summary alone.

Modifié par Taciter, 09 mars 2012 - 03:20 .

[Draythe]

poofpoof wrote...
                                        Critic score             User score

Baldursgate:                 91/100                     9.1/10
Baldurs gate 2:             95/100                     9.3/10
KOTOR:                          93/100                     8.9/10
Mass Effect:                   89/100                     8.5/10
Dragon Age:                  91/100                     8.4/10
Mass Effect2:                 94/100                    8.6/10
Dragon Age2:                82/100                    4.2/10
Mass Effect 3:               92/100                     3.3/10

Weird how all games before Dragon Age 2 remain untouched by those wicked trolls. Why doesn't their despicable agenda extend to ruining the ratings of ALL of Bioware's games rather than just the most recent ones? It's almost like they don't feel a need to rate those poorly or something.  

Modifié par Draythe, 09 mars 2012 - 03:16 .

[miltos33]

Bioware or any other company would be stupid to ignore users' scores. It's clear that a large segment of their customer base have been frustrated at them over the last couple of years. It would be wise of them to rethink some of their strategies as it may not necessarily have to do with the quality of their games. For example, I think that Mass Effect 3 compared to Dragon Age II is a decent game but what many people consider to be unethical business practices are still there.

[Taciter]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Taciter wrote...

Haartian wrote...

brunomalta wrote...
Also, is i stated elsewhere. Most of the real low scores comes from people who expected a different ending.

One that does make any logical sense, preferably. With a tiny bit of intelligently written scenario, please.

Aaahhh yes, I was thinking about that... they may have avoided some of the flack if their script writers had bothered to peruse THIS in their downtime.

-Thanks for that link.

My pleasure, glad you had a look. Fantastic reading isn't it! That's why I was dissapointed when I details of the script started emerging. There was SOOOOO much potential laid down by the first two games which was entirely overlooked by the script writers of the Third. What happened to the beings of light angle? What of the Prothean artefacts? What of the Keepers? It could have been absolutely mind-blowing!

[bboynexus]

The best judge is yourself.

Really, it's about as simple as that.

[sanadawarrior]

Draythe wrote...

poofpoof wrote...
                                        Critic score             User score

Baldursgate:                 91/100                     9.1/10
Baldurs gate 2:             95/100                     9.3/10
KOTOR:                          93/100                     8.9/10
Mass Effect:                   89/100                     8.5/10
Dragon Age:                  91/100                     8.4/10
Mass Effect2:                 94/100                    8.6/10
Dragon Age2:                82/100                    4.2/10
Mass Effect 3:               92/100                     3.3/10

Weird how all games before Dragon Age 2 remain untouched by those wicked trolls. Why doesn't their despicable agenda extend to ruining the ratings of ALL of Bioware's games rather than just the most recent ones? It's almost like they don't feel a need to rate those poorly or something.  

Did you know that on sites other than metacritic some Dragon Age 2 user score tallies are actually higher than Origins?

For example:

Gamefly: DA2 vs DA:O

But hey, keep beleiving metacritic user scores are and actual indication of how the majority of the gaming public feels about a game.

[Anakronist]

Taciter wrote...

Anakronist wrote...

...ALOT of people get butthurt over the SMALLEST issue in a game, which is most likely the biggest issue in their entire life right up to now...

Whilst I agree with most of what you stated, you have to bear in mind that, 'value' is a subjective concept. One's persons trash is another persons treasure. It's not for us to dictate the legitimacy of their scores based on what we percieve to be the relative 'worth' of their criticisms or praise. But I agree, actually 'reading' the user posts, both good and bad, is a far better source of information than merely assessing the statistical summary alone.

Some times, some where, as the soon-to-be-consumer you will have to draw a line on what is acceptable and what isn't. People hating on a game because it offers the protagonist (in an RPG featuring "YOUR SHEPARD!") as a homosexual or heterosexual, is not acceptable in any way. Yes people value things differently, and therefor opinions vary, but some opinions are flat out wrong, from a moral stand point at any rate. This hate on the fact that shepard can be gay or that there are gay characters in the game is wrong, end of story.

Also, most of these people throwing 0's and 1-4's (yes all the red figures) at the game write the same, or more or less the same, for each version of the game, to get anything accurate you would have to remove those reviews, because lets face it, if you dislike a game that much your hardly going to buy three copies for it, am I right?  I know I am.

I am not saying that people can't dislike the game, the difference here lies in whether or not the dislike is actually warranted and/or true (based on experiences), and reading through the negative responses, most of these are NOT TRUE. So, whatever value they want to uphold towards a product in this instance is useless, as is their response. At any rate, I have fed those trolls enough by arguing in this thread, to me it is actually pointless because, to me, based on personal experience, the game is very enjoyable after 11 or so hours, I don't know the ending, but I can see by how the game is running along that the ending depends ALOT on what you do PRIOR to it, which I think is awesome.

Modifié par Anakronist, 09 mars 2012 - 03:25 .

[Mad Pig]

homophobes, and talimancers in action lol

[Draythe]

sanadawarrior wrote...

Did you know that on sites other than metacritic some Dragon Age 2 user score tallies are actually higher than Origins?

Yeah, it's a tragedy that such things happen, but what can you do?

[Elios]

C9316 wrote...

The OP must take wikipedia seriously too...

Wikipedia is now and has been for some time now one of better quality then just about any other source you can use*









*for trusted articals any way

[Elios]

sanadawarrior wrote...

Draythe wrote...

poofpoof wrote...
                                        Critic score             User score

Baldursgate:                 91/100                     9.1/10
Baldurs gate 2:             95/100                     9.3/10
KOTOR:                          93/100                     8.9/10
Mass Effect:                   89/100                     8.5/10
Dragon Age:                  91/100                     8.4/10
Mass Effect2:                 94/100                    8.6/10
Dragon Age2:                82/100                    4.2/10
Mass Effect 3:               92/100                     3.3/10

Weird how all games before Dragon Age 2 remain untouched by those wicked trolls. Why doesn't their despicable agenda extend to ruining the ratings of ALL of Bioware's games rather than just the most recent ones? It's almost like they don't feel a need to rate those poorly or something.  

Did you know that on sites other than metacritic some Dragon Age 2 user score tallies are actually higher than Origins?

For example:

Gamefly: DA2 vs DA:O

But hey, keep beleiving metacritic user scores are and actual indication of how the majority of the gaming public feels about a game.

DA:O was much more a PC game i love DA:O but on consoles it sucked
DA2 was a console port sell out there for on CONSOLES it will get a better score then DA:O
and on PC it will get gutted
funny how that works
Gamefly only rents CONSOLE games
you have to take things in context

[Draythe]

Mad Pig wrote...

homophobes, and talimancers in action lol

Because Fallout New Vegas totally got bashed for having homosexuality amirite?

[Dansayshi]

I find user reviews more reliable than "professional" reviews tbh. They're complete garbage, but they cant say what they want to say, as its bad for business.

[Rrezz]

because you get Cod ****s who don't even play the game but give it a zero rating because they're to stupid to realize what a great game Mass Effect 3 is. instead of looking at pointless reviews, go out and play the game, you'll love it, trust me.

[GreenSoda]

sanadawarrior wrote...

I like how whenever a game gets score bombed on metacritic detractors of the game try use it as evidence of gamers generally being unhappy with the game. Too bad user scores on sites other than metacritic don't agree:

Gamefly : 9.4
Gamespot : 8.7
Gameinformer: 9.5
Planet Xbox: 8.4
G4TV: 4.6(out of 5)

I wonder why? (Trolls are too lazy to score bomb them on every site... duh)

Pretty much.

[Taciter]

Anakronist wrote...
...This hate on the fact that shepard can be gay or that there are gay characters in the game is wrong, end of story.

I won't deny ignorant hicks their entitlement to an opinion but in general, I got the impression that most of the concerns with regards to the sexuality issue were targeting the apparent 'imposition' or the 'ease' with which a seemingly asexual squad mates (of either sex) would fall under the spell of sheperds heady charisma. For those who are a little squeamish of homosexual inclinations, I think they felt that, despite attempts to pre-emptively 'ward off' potential advances from same sex protagonists, they would often misinterpret your intentions. But I can't say for sure having not played the game myself.

Anakronist wrote...
Also, most of these people throwing 0's and 1-4's (yes all the red figures) at the game write the same, or more or less the same, for each version of the game, to get anything accurate you would have to remove those reviews, because lets face it, if you dislike a game that much your hardly going to buy three copies for it, am I right? I know I am.

Did I read that right? Did you suggest that in order to gauge an 'accurate' assessment of the game, you should remove ALL red reviews? I thought stuff like that only happened in corrupt third world nations? For a liberal minded individual that seems like a rather contrasting ideology.

Anakronist wrote...
...to me, based on personal experience, the game is very enjoyable after 11 or so hours, I don't know the ending, but I can see by how the game is running along that the ending depends ALOT on what you do PRIOR to it, which I think is awesome.

And that is your right! I am sincerely happy for you that you've elicited such satisfaction from your ME3 experience; likewise, I think it's only fair that others she be granted that same privilege.

Modifié par Taciter, 09 mars 2012 - 03:42 .

[Draythe]

Rrezz wrote...

because you get Cod ****s who don't even play the game but give it a zero rating because they're to stupid to realize what a great game Mass Effect 3 is.

Actually Bioware fans include the CoD audience now. Isn't that awesome?

http://www.nowgamer....s_audience.html 

[Comsky159]

Jorec wrote...

Isn't ME3 getting review bombed on metacritic right now? I wouldn't really take user opinion on there as an end all be all on gamer satisfaction.

[Rrezz]

Draythe wrote...

Rrezz wrote...

because you get Cod ****s who don't even play the game but give it a zero rating because they're to stupid to realize what a great game Mass Effect 3 is.

Actually Bioware fans include the CoD audience now. Isn't that awesome?

http://www.nowgamer....s_audience.html 

not all Cod fans are idiots. just the ones who only play Cod and consider every other game crap because its not Cod. 
so yes, that is awesome

[GreenSoda]

Taciter wrote...

Anakronist wrote...
Also, most of these people throwing 0's and 1-4's (yes all the red figures) at the game write the same, or more or less the same, for each version of the game, to get anything accurate you would have to remove those reviews, because lets face it, if you dislike a game that much your hardly going to buy three copies for it, am I right? I know I am.

Did I read that right? Did you suggest that in order to gauge an 'accurate' assessment of the game, you should remove ALL red reviews? I thought stuff like that only happened in corrupt third world nations? For a liberal minded individual that seems like a rather contrasting ideology.

He just stated that someone who rates all 3 games with "1" just *might not really* be all the objective. After all a "1" or "2" basically says the game is unplayable crap...yet the same person went on and bought / played all three of the games...yeah, right.

Modifié par GreenSoda, 09 mars 2012 - 03:46 .

[Draythe]

Rrezz wrote...
not all Cod fans are idiots.

I would say enjoying CoD is generally a sign of low intelligence and poor taste actually.

Modifié par Draythe, 09 mars 2012 - 03:46 .