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[sanadawarrior]

Elios wrote...


DA:O was much more a PC game i love DA:O but on consoles it sucked
DA2 was a console port sell out there for on CONSOLES it will get a better score then DA:O
and on PC it will get gutted
funny how that works
Gamefly only rents CONSOLE games
you have to take things in context

Even on PC, the user scores for websites other than metacritic are a lot closer than most would have you believe.

Ign- DA2 7.4 vs DA:O 8.8
Gamespot: DA2 7.3 vs. DA:O 9.0

meanwhile

metacritic- DA2 4.4 vs DA:O 8.4

[Siven80]

sanadawarrior wrote...

I like how whenever a game gets score bombed on metacritic detractors of the game try use it as evidence of gamers generally being unhappy with the game. Too bad user scores on sites other than metacritic don't agree:

Gamefly : 9.4
Gamespot : 8.7
Gameinformer: 9.5
Planet Xbox: 8.4
G4TV: 4.6(out of 5)

I wonder why? (Trolls are too lazy to score bomb them on every site... duh)

Indeed.

[PaganPoetry]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Metacritic? Lol. No.

I'd take metacritic about as seriously as I would take that dwarf in your icon. The only place more up its own ass then metacritic is this forum I think.

lmfao, I love you.

[Taciter]

GreenSoda wrote...
He just stated that someone who rates all 3 games with "1" just *might not really* be all the objective. After all a "1" or "2" basically says the game is unplayable crap...yet the same person went on and bought / played all three of the games...yeah, right.

Fair enough.. I missed the 'all 3 platforms' context! objection withdrawn, apology issued!

Modifié par Taciter, 09 mars 2012 - 03:55 .

[Draythe]

GreenSoda wrote...

He just stated that someone who rates all 3 games with "1" just *might not really* be all the objective. After all a "1" or "2" basically says the game is unplayable crap...yet the same person went on and bought / played all three of the games...yeah, right.

I would say someone who rates all 3 games a "10" just *might not really* be all that objective either. I am a little curious why Metacritic only felt the need to remove the poorly written 0/10 reviews while leaving the handful of poorly written 10/10 reviews alone. Several of the postiive reviews seem to be "OMG THIS GAEM IS NOT BAD RATING TO BOOST SCORE" posts that last a sentence or two and never actually go into detail about the game. Seems like quite a double standard there.

Also I'm very surprised the PS3 version has any 10/10s at all given how horrible the port was.

http://www.destructo...s3-223444.phtml 

Since when is 20 FPS acceptable?

Modifié par Draythe, 09 mars 2012 - 03:57 .

[Taciter]

PaganPoetry wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...
Metacritic? Lol. No.

I'd take metacritic about as seriously as I would take that dwarf in your icon. The only place more up its own ass then metacritic is this forum I think.

lmfao, I love you.

You make a sweet couple, who said nihilism was dead!

Modifié par Taciter, 09 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[teh_619]

Jorec wrote...

Isn't ME3 getting review bombed on metacritic right now? I wouldn't really take user opinion on there as an end all be all on gamer satisfaction.

Metacritic already removed the reviews that were unapropriate.

What you're seeing here is just the legit reviews.

Modifié par teh_619, 09 mars 2012 - 03:57 .

[RogueKrogan]

As always, the only reviewer I trust is myself. And I think the game is the best in the series.

[silent-man73]

@ OP: my recommendation is simple: don't pay attention to user reviews. Look at professional reviews to get a very general idea of whether you'd want the game or not, go rent it at Gamefly if you still aren't sure, but ultimately buy it and enjoy it if *you* think it's fun. Don't worry about what anyone else says.

On top of this, user reviews on sites frequently get heavily skewed by competing game studios who hire people to flood the sites with negative reviews (notice the thread on this very page about MetaCritic clearing out a whole bunch of bogus negative reviews), as well as people who just gather up their social network friends and decide they want to play the little man's Anonymous and try to keep other people from enjoying something just because they're that sociopathic.

Me, the game is as fun as it ever has been for me. I buy BioWare games on their reputation, and I've yet to be so disappointed I wanted my money back.

[Super.Sid]

The game is great till the penultimate end. At the end when u get trolled so hard u will feel like crying.

[Plinkett]

Why trust review sites where before you enter the review, a fcking mass effect 3 advert comes up? Dikheads.

[Draythe]

silent-man73 wrote...
On top of this, user reviews on sites frequently get heavily skewed by competing game studios who hire people to flood the sites with negative reviews

Do you have evidence to support this claim? I know Bioware has a history of posting 10/10 reviews of their own games,

http://www.tomshardw...itic,12397.html

but I've never heard of a competing studio trying to sabotage their scores.

[Siven80]

Far better to trust user reviews on game review websites than metacritic user reviews.

Even better than than the above is to trust only yourself.

[Nassegris]

I’ve given up trusting so-called “professional” reviews. More often than not, they’ll have played only a part of the game. Often they seem to be angling towards some kind of personal agenda. Some are contrary just because it gives them respect and others seem to suck-up to public opinion.

I don’t know, I’ll try to look at the forums of any game I’m buying from now on. Maybe try not to pre-order unless it’s Bethesda, who might have disappointed me with Oblivion but has otherwise always lived up to my expectations. User-reviews are always slanted and if they’re allowed to just leave their score without defending it, they seem to be trolling games they hate for arbitrary reasons. On forums, you can at least read discussions about why people are upset and make your own judgement whether or not those same things would upset you as well.

As for Bioware, critic reviews, or user-reviews, I don’t care. I’ve pre-ordered all titles I’ve bought from them, which now includes one expansion and two games that all left me with a really, really bad taste – it just happens that these are the latest games released by them that I’ve bought. I don’t need any reviews at this point to tell me one way or the other.

I just know I won’t get any more. One I can forgive, two I can live with but this is the third strike. I don’t agree with the metacritic score, but I’d give Dragon Age 2 maybe a 5.5 and with this ending, ME3 a possible 5. At least Dragon Age 2 didn’t leave me with a migraine.

[Travie]

silent-man73 wrote...

@ OP: my recommendation is simple: don't pay attention to user reviews. Look at professional reviews to get a very general idea of whether you'd want the game or not, go rent it at Gamefly if you still aren't sure, but ultimately buy it and enjoy it if *you* think it's fun. Don't worry about what anyone else says.

On top of this, user reviews on sites frequently get heavily skewed by competing game studios who hire people to flood the sites with negative reviews (notice the thread on this very page about MetaCritic clearing out a whole bunch of bogus negative reviews), as well as people who just gather up their social network friends and decide they want to play the little man's Anonymous and try to keep other people from enjoying something just because they're that sociopathic.

Me, the game is as fun as it ever has been for me. I buy BioWare games on their reputation, and I've yet to be so disappointed I wanted my money back.

Trusting 'professional' reviews might have been a good way to go 7 or 10 years ago, but the industry has slowly skewed toward giving out good reviews in exchange for exclusives and hands-on previews to gin up subscriptions and traffic for their sites and magazines. 

For user reviews AND professional reviews you have to look at them all in aggregate to come to somewhere near the truth. 

Just look at the 9 or so 100% 'professional' reviews that are on metacritic right now. 4 of them admited not even finishing the game yet in their reviews.

[Gigamantis]

poofpoof wrote...

 This if from metacritic.com (hope the formating works):
                                                         
                                        Critic score             User score

Baldursgate:                 91/100                     9.1/10
Baldurs gate 2:             95/100                     9.3/10
KOTOR:                          93/100                     8.9/10
Mass Effect:                   89/100                     8.5/10
Dragon Age:                  91/100                     8.4/10
Mass Effect2:                 94/100                    8.6/10
Dragon Age2:                82/100                    4.2/10
Mass Effect 3:               92/100                     3.3/10


Your are doing it wrong!
You are on the wrong track and you are alienating your fanbase, can it be any clearer? One more step in this direction and I think you’re in real trouble.  Constant adaptation to the lowest common denominator is simply not working.  I’ve always thought of Bioware games as a sure thing, if I saw one in the store I grabbed it knowing I would enjoy it, but not so anymore.

Thanks for reading

You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all.  The only thing you've demonstrated is that nowadays user reviews can't be trusted because people who may have never even touched the franchise are review bombing games because they don't like the developers or the publisher. 

Professional reviewers were rating the game.  Users were getting some kind of revenge on EA. 

Modifié par Gigamantis, 09 mars 2012 - 04:24 .

[Draythe]

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

Modifié par Draythe, 09 mars 2012 - 04:24 .

[Super.Sid]

Draythe wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

Fine, finish the game and decide if we were lying.Not only metacritic,all gaming forums have stated their disappointment with some major portions of the game.

[finc.loki]

Yes the metacritic user scores are silly low. But there is some truth too it.
I think ME3 is great, but there is NO denying that lately, Bioware games are more and more casual.
More and more striving to reach the biggest market, and only way to do that is to remove "harder" things.
Look at ME3 compared to ME1 in, dialogue options, RPG, and combat.
It is clearly a shooter now with some rpg sprinkled into it and now the story is on rails.
I still love it so far, but the truth lies in the middle.
Same thing with DA2, it is no where near DAO.

A common denominator is EA, they are a business with shareholders, not made up with passionate developers, hence the bottom-line is all that matters.
So Bioware becomes that tool just like all other dev studios.
They are still great though, but gone is the "deep" RPG games.

I wouldn't be surprised if the next game is a shooter, barring DA 3.

[Gigamantis]

Draythe wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

The review bombing happened literal hours after the game released.  There was no conceivable way any of those people gave the game a solid playthrough for a legitimate review.  People are saying it was a focused trolling effort because it was, there's no 'maybe' about it. 

I'm not as familiar with how DA2's poor user reviews started, but I do think it was mainly disillusioned fans being unfairly critical of it.  

[Reorte]

Gigamantis wrote...

Professional reviewers were rating the game.  Users were getting some kind of revenge on EA. 

Is a professional reviewer's opinion going to be based on different things, what with playing a lot more games, presumably not as often (so less attachment to them)? Quite honestly the general opinion I get is agreement from users and professional reviewers for almost all of the game, just with one big, huge massive dissapointment that by its nature will affect fans far more than reviewers. It's put me off from buying it. I really want to - I believe that I'll love almost all of it, but I just couldn't face that major flaw. If you just go by percentage of game time that's good you still end up with a good score.

If you gave these reviewers a book with the last few pages torn out how would they review it?

[Gigamantis]

Super.Sid wrote...

Draythe wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

Fine, finish the game and decide if we were lying.Not only metacritic,all gaming forums have stated their disappointment with some major portions of the game.

I doubt the games finish is as bad as you're making it out to be, but even if it's the most god-awful garbage I've ever witnessed it's still an insignificantly small percentage of the game.  What I've played of the game so far has been terrific. 

[Super.Sid]

Gigamantis wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Draythe wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

Fine, finish the game and decide if we were lying.Not only metacritic,all gaming forums have stated their disappointment with some major portions of the game.

I doubt the games finish is as bad as you're making it out to be, but even if it's the most god-awful garbage I've ever witnessed it's still an insignificantly small percentage of the game.  What I've played of the game so far has been terrific. 

You will come to realise the value of the pain we have now because we spent hours on ME1 and 2 all to see it end in such a hasty way.

[Gigamantis]

Super.Sid wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Draythe wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

Fine, finish the game and decide if we were lying.Not only metacritic,all gaming forums have stated their disappointment with some major portions of the game.

I doubt the games finish is as bad as you're making it out to be, but even if it's the most god-awful garbage I've ever witnessed it's still an insignificantly small percentage of the game.  What I've played of the game so far has been terrific. 

You will come to realise the value of the pain we have now because we spent hours on ME1 and 2 all to see it end in such a hasty way.

I enjoyed the time I spent on the previous games.  A spectacular finish would be nice but a lack of one isn't going to invalidate everything else I've experienced.  I guess I'm just reasonable like that. 

[Super.Sid]

Gigamantis wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Super.Sid wrote...

Draythe wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...
You're confused.  ME3 user reviews were a massive trolling effort from people who hadn't played the game at all. 

And Dragon Age 2's reviews were a trolling effort as well? I love this myth that some sort of organized metacritic raid is going on. I see no proof of any such thing.

Fine, finish the game and decide if we were lying.Not only metacritic,all gaming forums have stated their disappointment with some major portions of the game.

I doubt the games finish is as bad as you're making it out to be, but even if it's the most god-awful garbage I've ever witnessed it's still an insignificantly small percentage of the game.  What I've played of the game so far has been terrific. 

You will come to realise the value of the pain we have now because we spent hours on ME1 and 2 all to see it end in such a hasty way.

I enjoyed the time I spent on the previous games.  A spectacular finish would be nice but a lack of one isn't going to invalidate everything else I've experienced.  I guess I'm just reasonable like that. 

Its not about the lack of the spectacular finish we are talking about, its about an illogical finish which raises more questions than gives answers. The rest of the game is no doubt great.