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FiGhTiNCoWBoY

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So I finally reached the conclusion of the Geth/Quarian missions and decided to upload the reaper code.  When Tali went to fall off the cliff I got the paragon option and Shepard jumped for her but still didn't manage to grab her in time.  If you side with the geth with she commit suicide guaranteed or do I just need  a higher paragon score?

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Lugaidster

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Higher paragon score. That way you get other dialog options while legion uploads the codes.

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If you have a high Paragon score or just side with the Quarians she won't suicide to join the rest of her race in that big bubble in the sky.

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I believe the only way for her to live is save quarians only or quarians and geth.

The way to save quarians and geth relies on me2 decisions I believe.

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lurker541 wrote...

I believe the only way for her to live is save quarians only or quarians and geth.

The way to save quarians and geth relies on me2 decisions I believe.

When I did it I told Legion to upload the reaper codes and I had the paragon option to tell the Quarians to stand down. Tali didn't commit suicide and both the Geth and the Quarians live in peace.

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DraCZeQQ

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there is a renegade option with the same result (ie. Geth/Quarian peace) just fyi

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It relies on higher paragon points. I saved both the geth and the quarians with choosing the paragon outcome option. Which I believe is locked if you play with new char and not ME2 impor, due to your low rep/paragon points.

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I'm pretty sure the heretics need to be dead from ME2, Legion needs to be alive, and you need to do the side mission where you find out from Legion what happened at the start of the war.

Also helps to save the admiral and clear Tali's name in ME2. After that, you can get the interrupt with 4 bars of reputation.

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yoshibb wrote...

I'm pretty sure the heretics need to be dead from ME2, Legion needs to be alive, and you need to do the side mission where you find out from Legion what happened at the start of the war.

Also helps to save the admiral and clear Tali's name in ME2. After that, you can get the interrupt with 4 bars of reputation.


The heretics don't have to die although i heard it makes i easier to archive the happy ending though. If because i didn't kill the heretics in ME2 i had to kill of the quarian(and Tali ) or the Geth ( and Legion myself ) i would've been super pissed since i thought this was the correct choice for peace for ME3 .

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Heretics saved and sent back, Legion kept functioning. Had paragon options, Tali survived. Didn't even know she committed suicide until I read this!

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Well I know I rewrote the heretics in ME2 instead of killing them but I did clear Tali's name. I just reloaded a save to check my reputation and my renegade score is just barely below the 3rd tick mark and the rest of the bar is filled up with paragon. The only option I received was a paragon one when Tali was going for the cliff dive.

On an off note does Legion die regardless to upload the code or is there a way to save him?

Modifié par FiGhTiNCoWBoY, 09 mars 2012 - 02:24 .


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yoshibb wrote...

I'm pretty sure the heretics need to be dead from ME2, Legion needs to be alive, and you need to do the side mission where you find out from Legion what happened at the start of the war.

Also helps to save the admiral and clear Tali's name in ME2. After that, you can get the interrupt with 4 bars of reputation.

Save the admiral? you mean Tali's father? how can you do that?

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jdecker wrote...

yoshibb wrote...

I'm pretty sure the heretics need to be dead from ME2, Legion needs to be alive, and you need to do the side mission where you find out from Legion what happened at the start of the war.

Also helps to save the admiral and clear Tali's name in ME2. After that, you can get the interrupt with 4 bars of reputation.

Save the admiral? you mean Tali's father? how can you do that?


I think they meant saving Zaal'Koris in ME3.

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FiGhTiNCoWBoY wrote...

Well I know I rewrote the heretics in ME2 instead of killing them but I did clear Tali's name. I just reloaded a save to check my reputation and my renegade score is just barely below the 3rd tick mark and the rest of the bar is filled up with paragon. The only option I received was a paragon one when Tali was going for the cliff dive.

On an off note does Legion die regardless to upload the code or is there a way to save him?

He dies regardless.

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I had a very high reputation but she killed herself anyway because that option never appeared and no way I was going to keep contributing to the Quarian racism (or specieism ?) towards the Geth. I think that happened because previously I punched the Quarian admiral in the stomach after the Geth dreadnought mission so he wasn't willing to listen to Shepard.

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You can achieve peace with rewriting the heretics, however this causes you to take a hit on the military strength of both the Geth and Quarians. Its also only possible to do if you do everything else right.

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Arlionis wrote...

I had a very high reputation but she killed herself anyway because that option never appeared and no way I was going to keep contributing to the Quarian racism (or specieism ?) towards the Geth. I think that happened because previously I punched the Quarian admiral in the stomach after the Geth dreadnought mission so he wasn't willing to listen to Shepard.

I have rewritten those heretics.
I have punched that bastard admiral.
I have saved both quarians and geth. That was not any sort of trouble.

Modifié par SonicAF, 09 mars 2012 - 05:26 .


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Arlionis wrote...

I had a very high reputation but she killed herself anyway because that option never appeared and no way I was going to keep contributing to the Quarian racism (or specieism ?) towards the Geth. I think that happened because previously I punched the Quarian admiral in the stomach after the Geth dreadnought mission so he wasn't willing to listen to Shepard.


Nope. I punched the admiral as well and was still able to paragon persuade the fleet to stop firing on the Geth. Tali didn't suicide herself either.

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Arlionis wrote...

I had a very high reputation but she killed herself anyway because that option never appeared and no way I was going to keep contributing to the Quarian racism (or specieism ?) towards the Geth. I think that happened because previously I punched the Quarian admiral in the stomach after the Geth dreadnought mission so he wasn't willing to listen to Shepard.


Did you also do the mission to stop the geth fighters?

To get quarian/geth peace you need to have: completed Tali's loyalty mission (with gaining the loyalty), complete Lgeion's loyalty mission, when they fight on the Normandy in ME2 you need to paragon/renegade them. In ME3 you need to save the quarian admiral and stop the geth fighters.

If you killed the heretics instead of rewriting you can get peace without doing the ME3 missions, but otherwise you need them.

You also need to have a paragon/renegade score in the 5th bar. (Maaaybe the 4thmiiiight do it but..)

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To get peace you have to have more than just paragon but also 7 points or higher of Geth / Quarian peace points.

These come from ME2 and ME3. A new playthrough of ME3 does not have enough points on its own without an import from 2 to get 7 points.

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Didn't even know she could die in that scene and I rewrote the heretics, punched the admiral, etc. ME3 I started mixing Paragon with Renegade (more is at stake).

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Lugaidster wrote...

Higher paragon score. That way you get other dialog options while legion uploads the codes.


i had a mix of both fully filled and i still couldnt get the option


legion died btw since tali killed him on rannoch

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OMG I am going to just start the whole mission over and do a few more side quests so I can save her, not because I like her but because I have worked so hard to get my team this far and her death scene is just toooooo freaking sad.

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DraCZeQQ wrote...

there is a renegade option with the same result (ie. Geth/Quarian peace) just fyi


I'm paragon, and I chose that option too. Still worked. :P

Also, Tali was my LI, and lived. 

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In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians. Also, if you rewrote them, you will face more geth than people who destroyed them, in which they'll face less geth.