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[Neo Hex Omega]

Anyone else disappointed with the dialogue options in the third game?

Most of the time there are only two very basic options for dialogue (paragon or renegade) with no neutral response. There are fewer investigate options. I am sure that I could count on two hands the number of opportunities to use charm or intimidate that were offered (almost all for the Illusive Man, at that). And there is way more auto dialogue than ME2.

I blame the Kinect for this one. Can't have too many dialogue options while utilizing the Kinect, otherwise you have to program recognition for every single one of them.

Or it was just lazy writing.

[fluffyburrito]

It's definately not the Kinect's fault. That was sort of tacked on towards the end.

I don't particularly think it was lazy writing... I was perfectly fine with most of Shepard's dialogue and the wheel showed up exactly when I would have wanted to say something. (Except during the ending, of course.)

[Manou1]

I agree. Feels like every new BW game that comes out they make everything more simplier.. what next? An game where we can't choose any choices or dialogue options and the game is automatically played for you.. well ME3 was kinda like that half of the time.

Modifié par Manou1, 09 mars 2012 - 02:43 .

[Neo Hex Omega]

Hm. If you go back to the first two games, the difference in options is jarring.

And the Kinect was not a last minute idea. It was announced last summer, which means programming for it would had to have begun far before that. I sincerely believe that ME3 was dumbed down for Kinect, and unfortunately all platforms had to suffer for it.

Modifié par Neo Hex Omega, 09 mars 2012 - 02:45 .

[Beras]

Yep... the addition of auto-dialogue made me weep tears of blood. I'd walk into Liara's (My LI) quarters, and all I'd get would be "Thanks for coming by." or "Hello, Shepard"... I can't even get an investigate option? To see how she's holding up from Thessia?

I demand more than two options! -Puts foot down-

[fluffyburrito]

Neo Hex Omega wrote...

Hm. If you go back to the first two games, the difference in options is jarring.

And the Kinect was not a last minute idea. It was announced last summer, which means programming for it would had to have begun far before that. I sincerely believe that ME3 was dumbed down for Kinect, and unfortunately all platforms had to suffer for it.

Playing devil's advocate, there are some points in both games where the dialogue wheel is a bit unecessary for normal coversation or comments.  Particularly, there are points where both the "up" and "down" options say almost the exact same thing.

[tausra]

The "story" BioWare wants to tell is far too important for you to touch with messy things like choice. Choices mean you might do something to change the story(!!!) and we simply cannot have that. You're given the option of guns to use, what more could you want? Just sit at your screen and walk along the path we set for you, enjoying the amazing story we wrote for you. By the way, next month we're releasing the brand new Weapon and Armor Skin Pack for the low price of $12.00! This pack will include 3 new shades of gray for your weaponry and armor, in addition to new armor for your horses!

Modifié par tausra, 09 mars 2012 - 02:56 .

[AlphaJarmel]

I actually thought the autodialogue was fine due to the way the Renegade and Paragon interrupts were used. They're definitely more than in ME2 and can change the direction of a conversation similar to how the dialogue wheel was used. It's a different approach to the problem Alpha Protocol solved.

[Fresh Bamboo]

I'm pretty sure that being neutral in a war would get you nowhere.

[Walla Walla 06]

Neo Hex Omega wrote...

Anyone else disappointed with the dialogue options in the third game?

Most of the time there are only two very basic options for dialogue (paragon or renegade) with no neutral response. There are fewer investigate options. I am sure that I could count on two hands the number of opportunities to use charm or intimidate that were offered (almost all for the Illusive Man, at that). And there is way more auto dialogue than ME2.

I blame the Kinect for this one. Can't have too many dialogue options while utilizing the Kinect, otherwise you have to program recognition for every single one of them.

Or it was just lazy writing.

Well, I know in ME, some of the neutral responses, even with different text, used the same response as another choice.  Sometimes the choice was simply an illusion.  And in ME2 there were definitely a lot of 2-response dialogues, so I'm not surprised.  But I'll agree on the lack of Charm/Intimidate.  Half the time you used it it didn't even work.
As for the auto-dialogue, it was used very well in this game.  I loved being able to go around the ship and hear Garrus and James swap accomplishments, or Jarik complaining to EDI about AIs, or whatever.  And then you could talk to some characters as well Zaeed/Kasumi-in-ME2, which actually worked because they said interesting things and Shepard would sometimes respond.  And there were still normal conversations you could have on the Normandy/Citadel.
Overall, I really don't know who to blame for the 2 dialogue complaints I have, which is A) Renegade sucks this game, Commander Shepard is now a wuss, not a badass, and Lack of Charm/Intimidate.

[Adugan]

Manou1 wrote...

I agree. Feels like every new BW game that comes out they make everything more simplier.. what next? An game where we can't choose any choices or dialogue options and the game is automatically played for you.. well ME3 was kinda like that half of the time.

*insert Hepler comment here*

[rolson00]

yes i agree in me3 i feel like we have less control over our shepards than in ME 1& 2

[Johnny Shepard]

rolson00 wrote...

yes i agree in me3 i feel like we have less control over our shepards than in ME 1& 2

Same here. I did notice that just like in DA2, your choice in tone carry through out the conversation.
Like when you talk to the IM on Mars, if you chose that Shepard would be nice he would later tell IM that that he would not be helping him controll the Reapers but if you desided that Shepard was angry then Shepard would say "Go to hell!" instead.
Same throughout the game. A nice Shepard will continue to talk nice but an renegade Shepard will continue being angry. So you make one choice and Shepard continue in that tone untill you get a new chance to chose.

But still, I agree that we should have gotten more choices in the game. It's always only 2 choices to make. And no more middle. Shepard hates something or loves it but he is never just OK with it.

Modifié par Johnny Shepard, 09 mars 2012 - 10:40 .