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[General User]

She's an Admiral now, while Shep is still a Commander. 

"But she's a Migrant Fleet Admiral!  Shepard's Alliance!"
Doesn't really matter if Shepard recruits the Migrant Fleet for the war effort.  Allied powers, are bound by tradition and protocol to respect each other's ranks.

Now I think Tali's far too important to be running and gunning with Shepard, but, if she must  be on the Normandy (hell, if anything the quarians have too many Admirals, look at that debacle with the geth dreadnaught), she should be in the war room not the engine room.

Modifié par General User, 09 mars 2012 - 03:09 .

[Adugan]

She is in the engine room only once or twice, as far as I can tell. The other times she is making out with Garrus, looking at the memorial, and doing other stuff.

[Thormgrim]

doing other stuff such as drinking , that one was simply awesome =)
Sry offtopic.

Still she doesnt outrank him, they're from completely different militaries.

Modifié par Thormgrim, 09 mars 2012 - 03:14 .

[Ivikatasha]

She is also at the bar with her 'emergency induction port'

[General User]

Tali doesn't need to be Alliance, as an Admiral, she the senior Allied officer present on the Normandy.  If Shepard recruits the Migrant Fleet for the war that is.

[Kronner]

Quarian admiral is still ways behind human commander. Besides, it is THE Commander Shepard. Nobody in the game is respected by so many different factions.

[Beras]

She may outrank him, but the Commander is in control of his vessel no matter what. An Admiral may tell a Commander or Captain that something needs to be done, but the Commander has complete control of how that task is completed when it comes to his own vessel.

Tali is also a close friend of Shepard... she would never pull rank on him... are you freaking joking? Not to mention she has a super-cute crush on the guy.

And as the poster above me stated... yeah... He's THE Commander Shepard... the dude who freaking cured the Genophage, killed a Thresher Maw, defeated the Collectors, united the Quarians and Geth after retaking Rannoch (In my case)... I mean.. come on.

[Beras]

---Sorry. Double Post---

Modifié par Beras, 09 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[Northborn]

People seem to forget Shepard is a Specter.... he flat out outranks anyone but the Council in council space...

[Beras]

Even without the Spectre issue, Tali would never pull her rank, or even try to (It's not logical) anyways!

[Homey C-Dawg]

No one would accept her authority because everyone in Mass Effect is racist, especially against quarians.

[cryosoul]

eh i think shepard still wins. according to quarian law shepard is a captain and captains rule the ship. refer to tali's loyalty mission when she meets the captain of the ship. he told her the admiralty board wanted to place her under arrest and guard. he just confined her to the ship.

[Beras]

Again, as I said. Commanders/Captains have control over their vessels... more so than the admirals.

[General User]

Beras wrote...

Again, as I said. Commanders/Captains have control over their vessels... more so than the admirals.

I'm not talking about control, I'm talking about rank.  Tali has more (much more) now.

Tali Zorah is the most senior Allied officer aboard the Normandy, she should be treated (and act) in accordance with that truth.

Modifié par General User, 09 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[Painaid]

 Shepard is a Spectre. Your argument is invalid.

[PapVogel]

Seeing as Shepard has been appointed the surpreme commander of the "take earth back fight" he still outranks Tali even though he's just a commander.

[General User]

Painaid wrote...
 Shepard is a Spectre. Your argument is invalid.

Quarians are not a Citadel race. They are not bound to respect Spectre status.

Indeed, as we saw when the Migrant Fleet armed its civilian vessels, the Migrant Fleet has, if anything, utter disregard for the Council.

Modifié par General User, 09 mars 2012 - 04:20 .

[General User]

PapVogel wrote...

Seeing as Shepard has been appointed the surpreme commander of the "take earth back fight" he still outranks Tali even though he's just a commander.

I thought Admiral Hackett was the Supreme Commander.

Modifié par General User, 09 mars 2012 - 04:17 .

[Fishy]

Who care about rank . Shepard he's Shepard. That outrank everyone. Tali was an honorary admiral . She said it herself. She was too young (You need to be an old fart to become an admiral) and she never really wanted it. If you romance her anyway she just want to be with Shepard.

Modifié par Suprez30, 09 mars 2012 - 04:24 .

[Jigero]

General User wrote...

Tali doesn't need to be Alliance, as an Admiral, she the senior Allied officer present on the Normandy.  If Shepard recruits the Migrant Fleet for the war that is.

Wait why does Tali needed to be given specail treatment when Wrex, The Primarch, and Raan are not given speacial treatment? Theyy all out ranked Shepard and where important diginitaries and even had more importance then Tali.

Modifié par Jigero, 09 mars 2012 - 04:32 .

[Nobrandminda]

Thormgrim wrote...

doing other stuff such as drinking , that one was simply awesome =)
Sry offtopic.

Still she doesnt outrank him, they're from completely different militaries.

Yeah, drunk Tali is something I never realized I always wanted to see.

"That's a straw, Tali."
"E-mer-gen-cy in-duc-tion port."

[ZX12r Ninja]

First, the migrant fleet was banned so it's obvious they didn't have any treaties. Second it's obvious that everybody agrees Shepard is the hero and he's the man in charge. Even Admiral Hacket gives Shepard full reign and respects everything he says.

[General User]

Jigero wrote...

General User wrote...

Tali doesn't need to be Alliance, as an Admiral, she the senior Allied officer present on the Normandy.  If Shepard recruits the Migrant Fleet for the war that is.

Wait why does Tali needed to be given specail treatment when Wrex, The Primarch, and Raan are not given speacial treatment? Theyy all out ranked Shepard and where important diginitaries and even had more importance then Tali.

What do you mean?  The Primarch was a head-of-state. Wrex was a warlord.  And Shala Raan was an Admiral.  They are all given the proper regard and treatment due persons of their station. 

Tali is the only one who doesn't act and isn't treated like what she is, a very senior flag officer and government official for an Allied power.

[General User]

ZX12r Ninja wrote...

First, the migrant fleet was banned so it's obvious they didn't have any treaties. Second it's obvious that everybody agrees Shepard is the hero and he's the man in charge. Even Admiral Hacket gives Shepard full reign and respects everything he says.

Depending of Shepard's actions, the quarians become an ally of the Systems Alliance.  The Migrant Fleet's status under, or relationship with, the Citadel Council is simply not relevant. 

I'm not talking about "being in charge", I'm talking about rank.  Tali has more than Shepard now.  Much more.

[aim1essgun]

"Commander" isn't even a rank at this point. Shepard is outside of anyone's chain of command. We only pretend to defer to Hackett and Anderson because it isn't worth playing power games in the middle of a war.

Modifié par aim1essgun, 09 mars 2012 - 04:53 .