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[yoshibb]

Can anyone give me an answer that makes any sense? Why was Joker flying the Normandy out near the relay when everyone including Shep is fighting back on Earth? There is nothing out there.

No OOC Joker bull**** about him turning into a coward and no handwave space magic. Can anyone, even those who like the endings, tell me what the hell the Normandy is doing over there?!

[Taleroth]

The only explanation I've heard that wasn't mocking is that there was a fallback order that we never heard.

[ialsoagree]

I don't see where you got the Normandy was by the relay? I've seen the ending 4 times and all you see is the Normandy in FTL, you can't tell if it's near anything.

I always suspected that Joker was trying to get the Normandy away from the shockwave because he didn't know if it would blow up the Normandy. Turns out it was at least going to do some serious damage, so he probably would up saving himself and those aboard.

[AlCord]

There is no logical explanation. IMO the whole thing wasn't really thought through... Because one of my squadmates of the last beam rush was suddenly outside the Normandy at the ending...

One of the most unlogical ending I have ever seen

[DraCZeQQ]

And how exactly did people killed or "nearly" killed by Harbinger's beam got on that fall-backing Normandy to exit it completly healed after the crash?

[Walla Walla 06]

Here's a better question: in my ending, how the hell did everyone not in my squad get back on the Normandy? I gave my goodbyes to them on the ground in the middle of a warzone.

[Taleroth]

ialsoagree wrote...

I don't see where you got the Normandy was by the relay? I've seen the ending 4 times and all you see is the Normandy in FTL, you can't tell if it's near anything.

I always suspected that Joker was trying to get the Normandy away from the shockwave because he didn't know if it would blow up the Normandy. Turns out it was at least going to do some serious damage, so he probably would up saving himself and those aboard.

It would have taken a minimum of 6 hours at FTL to reach even the nearest planet outside or solar system. But only a matter of seconds to leave our solar system.

So either Joker takes the Relay or he found Nabiru.

Modifié par Taleroth, 09 mars 2012 - 03:53 .

[AlCord]

Exactly the same I think... No, I repeate NO squadmate would now leave the battlefield to get to the Normandy. It is just illogical.
This is what I hate more than the 3 ending choices.

[10 Steps Back]

There was a sale on leather seats back in Palaven

[yoshibb]

ialsoagree wrote...

I don't see where you got the Normandy was by the relay? I've seen the ending 4 times and all you see is the Normandy in FTL, you can't tell if it's near anything.

I always suspected that Joker was trying to get the Normandy away from the shockwave because he didn't know if it would blow up the Normandy. Turns out it was at least going to do some serious damage, so he probably would up saving himself and those aboard.

The Normandy crashed because the mass relay exploded right next to them, but the relay is nowhere near Earth. They are the only ship out there, too. So if there is a fallback order, is he the only one who listens?

[picodeath123]

the only thing I can think of is when you get up from the blast you hear them talking about how you were all wiped out and then there is a fallback order, How your squad gets out intact and you don't I'm not sure, but I think the fall back order pulled all the ships off earth.

[Arokel]

This is the confusing point for me was well. I have seen the destroy ending and I am ok with it. Not happy but ok. But this just doesn't make sense. Why did Ash and Vega and all the others go back to the Normandy? Why was Joker not in the battle?

[ialsoagree]

Taleroth wrote...

It would have taken a minimum of 6 hours at FTL to reach even the nearest planet outside or solar system. But only a matter of seconds to leave our solar system.

So either Joker takes the Relay or he found Nabiru.

Ahh, this makes sense, I hadn't really considered that. Thanks for pointing that out!

yoshibb wrote...

The Normandy crashed because the mass relay exploded right next to them, but the relay is nowhere near Earth. They are the only ship out there, too. So if there is a fallback order, is he the only one who listens?

Not to sound argumentative, but what makes you think it was the relay exploding that takes them out? To me it just looked like the shock wave from the crucible. This stands to reason even if they did take a relay, as the shockwave goes through the relay as well.

It's neither here nor there though.

The only other explanation I can come up with is that Joker went straight for the relay as soon as the crucible went off - once again, trying to escape the shock wave.

To me, there are bigger questions, like those posed by others here on how certain people wound up on the Normandy. I also wonder why you couldn't point out to the AI controling the Reapers that Joker and EDI had learned to live together, and so had the Geth and Quarians (if you managed peace between them).

I guess there's a lot of different things that bug different people.

Modifié par ialsoagree, 09 mars 2012 - 04:01 .

[siefier25]

It seemed like the writers dropped dead as of Admiral Anderson's death, and that bioware was like "Oh crap we have to finish this now!". Seriously, the ending made no sense. I don't care that Shep died, I saw that coming from the first game(and second game when he was resurrected), but Joker and the Normandy crew in the ME relay? Come on. They planned on dieing on the battlefield. On ground and in space. This was their last stand. That was a serious cut and paste ending. All 3 of them.

This game was delayed from November, till a couple of days ago. Thats alot of time to work on a game. So how did they screw this up. I almost wish I never beat the game.

I'm going to bet that those last few months of work on the game were dedicated to the MP. This not the first game to mess up because they directed their focus to MP...

[rumination888]

Tesclo wrote...

and how the people i just left on earth magically ended up on the normandy

This is my biggest beef with the ending.

I understood and liked the choices presented, but the final cutscene made no sense whatsoever.

[Lugaidster]

The people on the Normandy died. They crashed into paradise... The last scene is God telling Jesus story about the Shepherd of salvation gave the people eternal life... I don't know... It all feels insipid.

[yoshibb]

ialsoagree wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

It would have taken a minimum of 6 hours at FTL to reach even the nearest planet outside or solar system. But only a matter of seconds to leave our solar system.

So either Joker takes the Relay or he found Nabiru.

Ahh, this makes sense, I hadn't really considered that. Thanks for pointing that out!

yoshibb wrote...

The Normandy crashed because the mass relay exploded right next to them, but the relay is nowhere near Earth. They are the only ship out there, too. So if there is a fallback order, is he the only one who listens?

Not to sound argumentative, but what makes you think it was the relay exploding that takes them out? To me it just looked like the shock wave from the crucible. This stands to reason even if they did take a relay, as the shockwave goes through the relay as well.

It's neither here nor there though.

The only other explanation I can come up with is that Joker went straight for the relay as soon as the crucible went off - once again, trying to escape the shock wave.

To me, there are bigger questions, like those posed by others here on how certain people wound up on the Normandy. I also wonder why you couldn't point out to the AI controling the Reapers that Joker and EDI had learned to live together, and so had the Geth and Quarians (if you managed peace between them).

I guess there's a lot of different things that bug different people.

If that were the case then Earth would've been destroyed as it was right next to the crucible. Also, there are no other ships fleeing the explosion, just the Normandy. The Citadel just seems to blow up while the relay creates that shockwave effect that you can see from the cutscene.

[Gigerstreak]

Lugaidster wrote...

The people on the Normandy died. They crashed into paradise... The last scene is God telling Jesus story about the Shepherd of salvation gave the people eternal life... I don't know... It all feels insipid.

This made me lol.

[Gowienczyk]

The only way I can make sense of it is Shepard's psychological damage during his last moments of life hallucinating and generally going haywire.

[n3koshi]

I got the impression that they were in a mass relay transit since they were trying to outrun a beam (which was jumping from relay to relay) not the "bubble" that started things. And even if you allow that Joker is enough of a hotshot to FTL right to the relay and jump to Arcturus, how did they have enough genetic diversity onboard the Normandy to sustain a viable population. And what about poor Garrus and Tali? Obviously it's not a dextro planet or the humans wouldn't have survived long enough to reproduce.

I actually tested a theory and found that a much more satisfying ending can be achieved if you alt-tab out when the screen goes white at the finale of your "Charge of the Light Brigade". At least then I "die" feeling like my choices along the way mattered at least a little.

I was okay with the MP, I actually prefer coop, but that it becomes such an integral part of your EMS (which ends up being irrelevant anyway) is just as bad as the fact that if your internet provider drops your connection, you can't play because the game has to authorize your DLC every time you load the game (thank you Comcast for the ten hour service outage).

Wait... maybe ME4 involves Shep waking up from a coma in a med-bay after the incident on Akuze/Elysium/Torfan and this was just a bad dream. 

Wait... maybe if I pinch myself I will wake up and the ending was just a bad dream....


Nope.

Modifié par n3koshi, 09 mars 2012 - 04:33 .