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[WildGunsTomcat]

I'm not anti-gay...but really guys? You spend 2 games building up the fact that Shepherd is obviously heterosexual...and then you pander to a very small special interest group and allow Shepherd to be gay?

Word?

You had time for that...but not enough time to write an ending that made sense?

Word? 

[Hokochu]

My femsep was into Liara's naked body. I don't think she was hetero then... not sure why she would be in ME3.

Modifié par Hokochu, 09 mars 2012 - 04:16 .

[MartialArtsMaster]

I apologize for my ignorance, Tomcat, but will you please be more specific? What evidence was "building up" that Shepard was heterosexual, and not for example bisexual?

Actually, if you're female, Shepard's already bisexual, which is why she can romance Liara T'Soni, Kelly Chambers, Samantha Traynor, and Diana Allers.

Since gay female Shepard has so many options now, my own opinion is that Bioware had to be fair to male gay people and give male Shepard the Cortez romance option.

[Maria Caliban]

I'm not anti-gay but... zomg! Shepard might be gay! This is horrible!

Of course, this doesn't effect me and my Shepard in the slightest, and I'm obviously fine with girl/girl because I don't seem to understand that it's a type of homosexuality, but the mere idea that some DudeShep in another person's game might like another dude bothers me so much I feel the need to start a thread about it.

[moteh]

I never had a heterosexual female Shepard and my male Shep's were all xenophiles (and one of those aliens is technically non-gender with a female body). I see no evidence Shepard was always heterosexual.

[jlb524]

Shepherd is heterosexual.

But Shepard's sexuality is up to the player.

[GBGriffin]

Choose a gay romance if it works for you. Choose a heterosexual one otherwise.

Shepard is not suddenly canonically gay or bi because the possibility for those romances exist. BioWare didn't remove heterosexual romances and make homosexual relationships the only options.

[TeamLexana]

WildGunsTomcat wrote...

I'm not anti-gay...but really guys? You spend 2 games building up the fact that Shepherd is obviously heterosexual...and then you pander to a very small special interest group and allow Shepherd to be gay?

Word?

You had time for that...but not enough time to write an ending that made sense?

Word? 

You do realize you don't have to make your Shep gay right? There. Problem solved. Moving on.

[ElitePinecone]

jlb524 wrote...
Shepard's sexuality is up to the player.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

This is ridiculous. Your Shepard isn't gay. Why do you care if somebody else's is?

[Nassegris]

They’re not pandering to a small interest group. They’re opening up and offering an unbiased experience regardless of sexuality – it’s a very sweet stand they’re taking. I wish all gaming companies were so open-minded about that kind of thing.

You might claim you’re not anti-gay but that’s a little bit like the guy claiming he’s not racist but questioning why there are characters of different skin colour in his game because the game-creators should have spent their time doing something else instead.

[WildGunsTomcat]

Nassegris wrote...

They’re not pandering to a small interest group. They’re opening up and offering an unbiased experience regardless of sexuality – it’s a very sweet stand they’re taking. I wish all gaming companies were so open-minded about that kind of thing.

You might claim you’re not anti-gay but that’s a little bit like the guy claiming he’s not racist but questioning why there are characters of different skin colour in his game because the game-creators should have spent their time doing something else instead.

So wait, you're telling me that because I question the fact that they took the time to pander to gay people, instead of finishing the story properly...that I'm somehow anti-gay? 

People like you are why I get migraines. 

I'm simply saying, they took the time to put that much depth into a gay romance for femshep or maleshep...but they couldn't somehow make the ending options a bit more in depth. 

Also, I stand corrected about my earlier statement that Shep was heterosexual in the first two games...I didn't explore the other sexuality options...and I honestly never played Femshep. 

That being said, don't read into what I'm saying people...and don't try to villify me as some kind of anti-gay bigot. 

I'm saying place effort where effort is due. 

[Hokochu]

Putting effort into one area of the story =/= less effort on other parts of the story. They have a writing TEAM for a reason.

[Maria Caliban]

WildGunsTomcat wrote...

So wait, you're telling me that because I question the fact that they took the time to pander to gay people, instead of finishing the story properly...that I'm somehow anti-gay? 

I prefer the term 'bigot.'

And instead of 'somehow,' I'd go with 'obviously a.'

[WildGunsTomcat]

Maria Caliban wrote...

WildGunsTomcat wrote...

So wait, you're telling me that because I question the fact that they took the time to pander to gay people, instead of finishing the story properly...that I'm somehow anti-gay? 

I prefer the term 'bigot.'

And instead of 'somehow,' I'd go with 'obviously a.'

I love how you quoted one part of my text, and didn't read the rest.

Therefore, you're irrelevant. 

[Nassegris]

Maria Caliban wrote...

WildGunsTomcat wrote...

So wait, you're telling me that because I question the fact that they took the time to pander to gay people, instead of finishing the story properly...that I'm somehow anti-gay? 

I prefer the term 'bigot.'

And instead of 'somehow,' I'd go with 'obviously a.'

Inclined to agree with you.

[Icesong]

You're really going to blame the endings on teh gays? It wasn't an either or situation.

[MartialArtsMaster]

Oh, so THAT'S what you meant, Tomcat. You were objecting because you thought they didn't spend enough effort on the story, not because of what they focused effort on.

Please forgive me for what I said earlier, then. I was attempting to respond to the wrong argument without realizing it.

[WildGunsTomcat]

Ah well, I don't know what I expected. You say something about gay people, you get labelled. It's really sad, but this is how liberalism works. "You either agree with me, or you're a bigot/redneck/republican/idiot."

/shrug.

[lookingglassmind]

This thread isn't going to derail.

[WildGunsTomcat]

MartialArtsMaster wrote...

Oh, so THAT'S what you meant, Tomcat. You were objecting because you thought they didn't spend enough effort on the story, not because of what they focused effort on.

Please forgive me for what I said earlier, then. I was attempting to respond to the wrong argument without realizing it.

Yep.

thanks for paying attention to what I was saying. 

Unlike these other people.

[demoneo]

Erm... It's not that much effort to make a gay romance, since they basically have male and female shepard's romance done up. They just merely exposing certain character's dialog options for opposite sex.

[Hokochu]

WildGunsTomcat wrote...

It's really sad, but this is how liberalism works. "You either agree with me, or you're a bigot/redneck/republican/idiot."

Wait what? Since when was this discussion about politics? 

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

I sincerely doubt that the ending was awful because they allowed Shepard to be gay.