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[randomfoo]

Yes, but for all of the cycles (was the number specified?) the Guardian never encountered an organic before... There are loads of problems w/ the Guardian, from how it's just the worst type of deus ex machina (and fittingly, the ending choices/mechanic is ripped straight from Deus Ex), but even swallowing that, within the story itself, the Guardian obviates the need for Sovereign at all (since it obviously is monitoring everything), and obviously the genociding all organics to prevent organic genocide is moronic. (if you think about it, every single successful species will be reaped the following cycle if they are missed the previous one)

If you accept that the Catalyst isn't being removed from the game and w/o majorly reworking how it unfolds, it seems the obvious thing would be to add a few extra choices... The 'Paragon' route that lets you convince it that it's the only way (need to have talked EDI into self improvement, Geth+Quarians to peace), the 'Renegade' route that lets you confirm that it's controlling the Reapers and get the fleet to destroy the Citadel, and a neutral 'Refuse' option that lets you allow your GAW/EMS rating to determine how successful you are. (Thinking about it, all the endings really require you to destroy the Citadel, otherwise the Guardian would be free to do this all over again)

Of course, it'd be better just to get rid of the Guardian completely IMO... If you need to have a final convo-confrontation, it should be w/ Harbinger, although the complete lack of Reaper interaction makes that sort of a weird fit, and I'm not sure where you'd fit the emotional beats. Given what we have, I'd just end the game after defeating TIM and staring out at Earth.

CITADEL: CATALYST ACTIVATING
HACKETT: Shepard, the Crucible is powering up... You did it Shepard.
FADE TO WHITE as CRUCIBLE fires in massive burst and a million reapers scream.

You could have an epilogue, but I'd rather not have one than the ridiculous every ME relay blows up and galactic civilization crumbles and your crew gets teleported onto the AWOL Normandy crash landing cinematic.

[mjh417]

Arlionis wrote...

By the end of Mass Effect I had the Geth acting no different from people, even showing their support and helping organics everywhere (to the point they understood people feared them for the Heretics and didn't respond fire when attacked by scared organics)  and EDI who was previously a maniacal AI at Luna but gradually became a mother figure protective of organics and literally at the verge of developing true human emotions. 

Just show them to the Catalyst, they're the living proof that synthetics and organics can coexist without needing a synthesis. 

Agreed, and this is I've been saying that Shep needs to instead of playing ball with it, he or she needs tell the Catalyst off and show him how it's wrong and then tell it to stick its new solutions up its virtual butt.

randomfoo wrote...

Yes, but for all of the cycles (was the number specified?) the Guardian never encountered an organic before... There are loads of problems w/ the Guardian, from how it's just the worst type of deus ex machina (and fittingly, the ending choices/mechanic is ripped straight from Deus Ex), but even swallowing that, within the story itself, the Guardian obviates the need for Sovereign at all (since it obviously is monitoring everything), and obviously the genociding all organics to prevent organic genocide is moronic. (if you think about it, every single successful species will be reaped the following cycle if they are missed the previous one)

If you accept that the Catalyst isn't being removed from the game and w/o majorly reworking how it unfolds, it seems the obvious thing would be to add a few extra choices... The 'Paragon' route that lets you convince it that it's the only way (need to have talked EDI into self improvement, Geth+Quarians to peace), the 'Renegade' route that lets you confirm that it's controlling the Reapers and get the fleet to destroy the Citadel, and a neutral 'Refuse' option that lets you allow your GAW/EMS rating to determine how successful you are. (Thinking about it, all the endings really require you to destroy the Citadel, otherwise the Guardian would be free to do this all over again)

YES!!!! This is what I want for new endings.

Expanding on that, I think the Mass Relays also do have to be destoryed but the The Crucible should be revealed as being a new way to create Galaxy wide travel without the Mass Relyas or The Citadel. The Catalyst and the Citadel are what needs to be destoryed and the Normandy should lead the fleet in a charge to do that. The should try and blow up The Crucible. Shepard could even sacrifice him(or her)self by letting Joker and the rest of the crew get on the escape pods (mirroring the opening of ME2) and then taking control of the Normandy as it crashes itself at max velocity into the top of the Citadel, this blows it up and destroys  all the Reapers, the Mass Relays, and presumably The Crucible, as the rest of the fleets retreat throught the relays just before they explode.

Also before Shep makes his decision to crash the Normandy and sacrifice him(or her)self if he or she's LI is a part of the current Normandy crew (Liara, Ashley, Kaiden, Garrus, Tali, Samantha, or Estaban) he or she will demand to stay with Shep and sacrifice him or self as well. EDI will also try and stay despite Joker trying to grab her body, explaining to Joker that her body will be useless once The Normandy is gone. This makes Jeff, if you've helped him and EDI romanitcally, try and fight to stay but EDI forces him onto the escape pod (maybe he grabs her body though and takes it with him). So in the end its Shep and EDI and possibly Shep's LI about to slam themselves into The Citadel to save the galaxy. The rest of the team is on Earth, or in escape pods floating towards Earth, and the fleets are retrating after having had one final assault on The Repaers and The Citadel (Shep orders this).

But.. when the Normandy crashes into the Citadel and it actually activates the Crucible and a giant Mass Relay like blue pulse it creates actually trasports the partially colided Normandy warping through space right as the rest of The Citadel, The Reapers, and the Mass Relays all exploded. 

Shep then wakes up, either alone, or with his LI, and finds himself with a destroyed Normandy on a stange planet. He then looks up at the sky and sees The Crucible intact and flaoting above him and it pointing with a beam into a strange rip in the fabric of space, a worm hole of sorts, and on the otherside is Earth. And then thats when the screen would cut to the credits. The impication being that The Crucible can create wormholes or something that ultimately will proved a new ay to travese the Galaxy.

ALternate edninggs resulting from these new choices could be the LI awakens to find Shep's body dead and then its LI and a mangled bu still function EDI body that look up and see The Crucible's opened portal to Earth. ANother alternative, if Shep died and there was no LI, could be that its the remainging crew, the soliders on Earth, or Joker that sees the portal and the strange new plant from its other side on Earth.

I dont know if thats an ending everyone else would like, but I for one would dig it (i worte it after all) and know its a ton better than what we have now. It centers on Shep and his or her choices and ends thecycle, takes out the Reapers and their traps and tech, but without dooming the galactic community.