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I'm very sorry to say this, but Bioware you need to be held to account


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News Flash: Mass Effect 1 & 2 didn't have endings, they had a still frame and a potential body count.

Be thankful u get endings.

/'end' this

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4million sales. 94% average rating accross the board.

You mad?

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The Enforcer OS wrote...

News Flash: Mass Effect 1 & 2 didn't have endings, they had a still frame and a potential body count.

Be thankful u get endings.

/'end' this


you should have said..

enkindle this!

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robmokron wrote...

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I've made so many heart wrenching choices in this game I have no idea what this no choices game your playing.

Of course I did not play me2 50 times to get the perfect ending. My shep made mistakes and I payed for them the hard way in me3.

Sometimes I think you guys don't play me3. And only read the spoiler forums.


this, i got my perfect ending in one playthrough, but the game takes in account of what happens in the other games, which play out more outcomes



there is no happy ending in mass effect 3..... there only 3 ending   each ending results are the same

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What are you talking about? Held accountable? Yeah, held accountable for making a kickass game.


I am sorry but I think he said *Bioware you need to be held to account*. Not *Held Accountable*. What is wrong with you people? Cant you fraking read a simple topic sentence and not distort and twist words around like that? I will go deep into this by saying, Please Bioware, be held to MY account! My BANK account of course.

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Now I am speaking to my friend Bruno. And Bruno, meu amigo, definitely, someone forgot more than just some pills. Apparently some people forgot to play the game as well.

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loomis113 wrote...

robmokron wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

I've made so many heart wrenching choices in this game I have no idea what this no choices game your playing.

Of course I did not play me2 50 times to get the perfect ending. My shep made mistakes and I payed for them the hard way in me3.

Sometimes I think you guys don't play me3. And only read the spoiler forums.


this, i got my perfect ending in one playthrough, but the game takes in account of what happens in the other games, which play out more outcomes

 

there is no happy ending in mass effect 3..... there only 3 ending   each ending results are the same

all of those endings are happy in terms of a galactic view point.

Modifié par BuffPhantoms, 09 mars 2012 - 06:46 .


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I think Bioware needs to be called out honestly. How can they have such amazing writing for like Mordin and Thane and Legion, yet fail so utterly with stuff like the dialouge and the endings?

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Ronin1325 wrote...

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What are you talking about? Held accountable? Yeah, held accountable for making a kickass game.


Regardless of whether or not some like the story, it was *advertised* as being the most variable (open-ended). It isn't. That's false advertising.


ME3 is definitely the most variable game in ME franchise. But that does not mean it's really open-ended. the variations mostly occur during the game in dialogue and characters.

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 You don't like there ending so they have to be held responsible for there story because the world revolves around you?  

Got it.


This!


I second this claim.

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wow. two pages of people actually defending ME3?! drastic contrast to the spoiler section lol..

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LoneStorm wrote...

PapVogel wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

 You don't like there ending so they have to be held responsible for there story because the world revolves around you?  

Got it.


This!


I second this claim.


Oh you silly kids. The world doesn't revolve around us, but it sure doesn't revolve around BioWare's Ego.

I want to call out Bioware, and find out how they can have beautiful sequences likes Mordin's and Thane's deaths, but yet write other crappy stuff like the endings, or even the lack thereof of any writing.

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SovereignWillReturn wrote...

I think Bioware needs to be called out honestly. How can they have such amazing writing for like Mordin and Thane and Legion, yet fail so utterly with stuff like the dialouge and the endings?


Indeed. It's like they lost writers before the end-game development came up, because apparently the rest of the game is gold...mostly.  It's really just as you get toward the end that they just drop the ball completely...or worse.  I knew they'd outsourced quite a bit of their art department, but I wonder if something similar happened with their writers? I know they've lost quite a few other devs from the team as well, or were understaffed or something.

I just don't understand why they would treat this game, the third and final in the Mass Effect series, of all their IPs, like this.  I mean, that's the one you don't want to treat like crap...and all I can think of is that they probably thought they could get away with making short cuts and ass-pulls because people would buy it up anyway. :unsure:

Just ended up feeling like a huge FU from BW to its fans.

Modifié par Eradyn, 09 mars 2012 - 06:54 .


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If you were paying attention, you would see that the conclusion was set way back in ME1. You'll really see it if you get the prothean.

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Ronin1325 wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

 You don't like there ending so they have to be held responsible for there story because the world revolves around you?  

Got it.


Not at all. If they wanted to tell a novel-type story that's perfectly fine with me. I have no issue with that. I've played many, many rpg's that were completely linear. That's not the point I'm trying to make. One of Bioware's biggest selling points was that we had the most *choice* in this installment. That isn't true. So whether it's a good game or not is beside the point I'm making. They were false in what they claimed.


I made plenty of choices in ME3, and I haven't even finished the game yet.  Not only that I can see how my choices effect my game, they have a menu to show it to me.

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wrdnshprd wrote...

wow. two pages of people actually defending ME3?! drastic contrast to the spoiler section lol..

Those are the people who just saw the ending on youtube or rushed to the end of the game.
The rest of use are taking our time.

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So much conflict

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They never lied about anything, you just took what their words meant and applied it to your version of ME3 and what you thought it would play like.

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loomis113 wrote...

robmokron wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

I've made so many heart wrenching choices in this game I have no idea what this no choices game your playing.

Of course I did not play me2 50 times to get the perfect ending. My shep made mistakes and I payed for them the hard way in me3.

Sometimes I think you guys don't play me3. And only read the spoiler forums.


this, i got my perfect ending in one playthrough, but the game takes in account of what happens in the other games, which play out more outcomes



there is no happy ending in mass effect 3..... there only 3 ending   each ending results are the same


No they aren't. A very critical choice at the end of ME 2 also influences the type of ending you get, in addition to your Galactic Readiness.

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They never lied about anything, you just took what their words meant and applied it to your version of ME3 and what you thought it would play like.


This.

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Urdnot Grim wrote...

loomis113 wrote...

robmokron wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

I've made so many heart wrenching choices in this game I have no idea what this no choices game your playing.

Of course I did not play me2 50 times to get the perfect ending. My shep made mistakes and I payed for them the hard way in me3.

Sometimes I think you guys don't play me3. And only read the spoiler forums.


this, i got my perfect ending in one playthrough, but the game takes in account of what happens in the other games, which play out more outcomes



there is no happy ending in mass effect 3..... there only 3 ending   each ending results are the same


No they aren't. A very critical choice at the end of ME 2 also influences the type of ending you get, in addition to your Galactic Readiness.


It slightly affects the endings and EMS number requirements.  I have the guide, it really doesn't radically change the ending.

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Here's what we'll do. We'll slap 'em on the wrist. Will that work?

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G3rman wrote...

Urdnot Grim wrote...

loomis113 wrote...

robmokron wrote...

malkuth74 wrote...

I've made so many heart wrenching choices in this game I have no idea what this no choices game your playing.

Of course I did not play me2 50 times to get the perfect ending. My shep made mistakes and I payed for them the hard way in me3.

Sometimes I think you guys don't play me3. And only read the spoiler forums.


this, i got my perfect ending in one playthrough, but the game takes in account of what happens in the other games, which play out more outcomes



there is no happy ending in mass effect 3..... there only 3 ending   each ending results are the same


No they aren't. A very critical choice at the end of ME 2 also influences the type of ending you get, in addition to your Galactic Readiness.


It slightly affects the endings and EMS number requirements.  I have the guide, it really doesn't radically change the ending.


It's still a change worth noting here, given the requirements.

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Urdnot Grim wrote...

No they aren't. A very critical choice at the end of ME 2 also influences the type of ending you get, in addition to your Galactic Readiness.


Just lowers the requirement for certain endings slightly. In real terms it's negligable.

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His point is that non of your choices can effect the pathetic excuse of an ending. No matter what you chose in me 1,2 and 3, all of that gets ignored and you are being backed into a courner and forced to pick from 3 colours. Non of the endings make any sense, the whole point of the game was to unite the galaxy, but no matter how successful you were, you can just pick in which colour to doom everyone. I won't even mention how retarded the scene with the Normandy is. The game is 10/10 untill the last 20 minutes, within those 20 minutes they managed to completely butcher not only ME 3 but the entire series. No closure, no answers, no sense. Just complete and utter bullsh*t.
I hope the community can unite and make them write new endings in some sort of patch. I don't see how any fans of this amazing game can stand and take it up the ass, because they got lazy with the ending.

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His point is that non of your choices can effect the pathetic excuse of an ending. No matter what you chose in me 1,2 and 3, all of that gets ignored and you are being backed into a courner and forced to pick from 3 colours. Non of the endings make any sense, the whole point of the game was to unite the galaxy, but no matter how successful you were, you can just pick in which colour to doom everyone. I won't even mention how retarded the scene with the Normandy is. The game is 10/10 untill the last 20 minutes, within those 20 minutes they managed to completely butcher not only ME 3 but the entire series. No closure, no answers, no sense. Just complete and utter bullsh*t.
I hope the community can unite and make them write new endings in some sort of patch. I don't see how any fans of this amazing game can stand and take it up the ass, because they got lazy with the ending.


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Non of the endings make any sense, the whole point of the game was to unite the galaxy, but no matter how successful you were, you can just pick in which colour to doom everyone. "

That depends on your Shepard, and that is your opinion. In the context of what happens, the galaxy is far from doomed. But that is a discussion for the spoiler thread.

"The game is 10/10 untill the last 20 minutes, within those 20 minutes they managed to completely butcher not only ME 3 but the entire series. No closure, no answers, no sense. Just complete and utter bullsh*t."

There's LOT's of closure in this game. You might not like some of the answers you were given, but they're answers nonetheless. I didn't like them all, but I don't pretend I never got them.

"I don't see how any fans of this amazing game can stand and take it up the ass, because they got lazy with the ending."
 
You have a right to not like the endings, but there are also many players who do and nonetheless still love this game. Also, Bioware fans aren't monolithic, as has been proven by this debate. Some like it, some hate it, and hopefully in future entries if any Bioware will take these criticisms into consideration.