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[Neroteyen]

loungeshep wrote...

Here's what we'll do. We'll slap 'em on the wrist. Will that work?

Probably not. However many people not buying theyre dlc's till they actually fix the endings? That will. Also people who like me used to always preorder theyre games no longer even buying them? That will. I have 2 CE swtors and I was even going to try comand and conquer becase BW cant make a bad game. Hah boy was i wrong. Oh well more money in my pocket. In my case they have till my 6month sub to swtor runs out. If no new endings im done with Bw this just was too much of a we dont care ending to ME3

Modifié par Neroteyen, 09 mars 2012 - 07:25 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Wah!!!! WAH!!!!! I've already had two decisions I made in ME1 come back to bite me in the ass, and I'm not even half way done. Just waiting for the ME2 sh** to hit the fan. And the sad thing? Those same two decisions are going to bite me in the ass on every single playthrough.

"The game is 10/10 untill the last 20 minutes, within those 20 minutes they managed to completely butcher not only ME 3 but the entire series: No closure, no answers, no sense; just complete and utter bullsh*t."

I don't know about the entirety of the first part, but the last part seems to reflect life in general.

But note to Bioware Devs: Next time add this in the options to your dark trilogy: Options -- Ending w/ Ewoks    On      Off   -- but it has to be unlocked after the first playthrough.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 09 mars 2012 - 07:46 .

[Aesieru]

Super.Sid wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

I'm a longtime fan of your games, and I hate to say this, but you falsely advertised this game. You repeatedly & publicly stated that it would be the most open-ended and choice-driven game in the trilogy. It clearly is not. The anger that people are feeling over the ending is just a symptom of that. If nothing else a public apology for the false statements is in order.

Hey that false advertising has generated 3.5m sales
http://www.vg247.com...lion-worldwide/

So they do realise that it worked well even if it meant non ethical to the rest of the community.

DA2 falsely advertised as well, their game was returned, the sales meant nothing because they didn't get the money.

I'd say the game was a 8 then an 8.5 and nearly a 9 and then ended.

Modifié par Aesieru, 09 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[Miashi]

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. 

Sorry to break it to you, but the 2 other Mass Effects weren't what one would qualify as "open ended" either.
I think it's more of an unsatisfying ending (as far as I can tell from some comments anyway).

Modifié par Miashi, 09 mars 2012 - 07:43 .

[Munktor]

There is so much subjective opinion being represented as fact in this thread...

[Icemix]

Urdnot Grim wrote...
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Non of the endings make any sense, the whole point of the game was to unite the galaxy, but no matter how successful you were, you can just pick in which colour to doom everyone. "

That depends on your Shepard, and that is your opinion. In the context of what happens, the galaxy is far from doomed. But that is a discussion for the spoiler thread.

"The game is 10/10 untill the last 20 minutes, within those 20 minutes they managed to completely butcher not only ME 3 but the entire series. No closure, no answers, no sense. Just complete and utter bullsh*t."

There's LOT's of closure in this game. You might not like some of the answers you were given, but they're answers nonetheless. I didn't like them all, but I don't pretend I never got them.

"I don't see how any fans of this amazing game can stand and take it up the ass, because they got lazy with the ending."
 
You have a right to not like the endings, but there are also many players who do and nonetheless still love this game. Also, Bioware fans aren't monolithic, as has been proven by this debate. Some like it, some hate it, and hopefully in future entries if any Bioware will take these criticisms into consideration. 

There is no closure in the ending, you are left with no idea what is going on with everyone. For a character driven story like Mass Effect I can not think of a worst way to end the game. All the amazing characters you got used to and cared about with passion, your love interest, all the species that you work so hard to unite, no closure, no explanation, nothing. I was crying at so many points in the game, no other form of entertainment has ever made me cry, and at the end they just bend you over and forced this atrocity of an ending and you are trying to justify it?
Mass Effect is not worthy of this ending, we the fans that supported this game for so long and expected an actual end to the amazing thing that is Mass Effect can not stand by and let them get away with this.

[HairyMadDog1010]

[Spoilers removed]

Modifié par JohnEpler, 09 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[gabe2gg]

Bioware was just lazy with the endings, they wanted to find a quick way out.

[Amikae]

Not a single decision you made throughout Mass Effect 1, 2 and 3, affects the endings. There are 3 endings and they are not affected by your decisions. Whatever you do, the endings are the same. Do I need to say more?

[CarsRG8]

In a game where "choice" is key, i want my choice of a happyish ending
where Shep can save the day and live with his/her LI!!!!!!!!!

BW, i cancelled my pre-ordered CE because of this!!!! If you want my money for the game, ME2 and 3 DLC and any other future releases, give me an ending that I WOULD LIKE TO CHOOSE!!!

[pipsfootyeye]

Wow. Take a step back people.

Although I dont like the endings per-se (bar the merge ending) i really dont see what people are getting so upset about to be honest. The only thing out of place in the endings is the fate of the normandy. The rest of it fits to the game where you are fighting a war you cannot possibly win by conventional means and people die. Well in war people die. You cant choose who and when in real life so why should you in game? Unless you want the reapers to win. Life sucks. Deal with it.

Oh and as far as no closure at the end... there may be a reason for that. But people are so blinded by hate of the ending that they cant see it.

[jmood88]

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. I won't comment on the ending because of the spoiler issue. When they advertised the game's openess they said the whole game (not just the ending) would be the most variable of the three, and that the choices we made in ME1&2 would have even more conscequence. That is not true, and even a cursory glace at the story/gameplay threads will confirm that.

You need a girlfriend.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

So much discussion about choice.

For the majority of the game, I felt my choices mattered. That was more evident than ever on Tuchanka and on Rannoch. However, the end, none of those choices really contribute to it... regardless of your final choice. THAT's ultimately why I feel the choices didn't matter... what good are they if the end remains unchanged? Especially when the end should be the culmination of everything you have done.

Just my opinion though.

Modifié par SomeKindaEnigma, 09 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[Aesieru]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

So much discussion about choice.

For the majority of the game, I felt my choices mattered. That was more evident than ever on Tuchanka and on Rannoch. However, the end, none of those choices really contribute to it... regardless of your final choice. THAT's ultimately why I feel the choices didn't matter... what good are they if the end remains unchanged? Especially when the end should be the culmination of everything you have done.

None of the fleet building or army building really mattered either to be honest.

[Toonmanpwnsu]

gabe2gg wrote...

Bioware was just lazy with the endings, they wanted to find a quick way out.

Or...........open it up for inevitable DLC that is coming down the pipeline. 

[Ianamus]

pipsfootyeye wrote...

Wow. Take a step back people.

Although I dont like the endings per-se (bar the merge ending) i really dont see what people are getting so upset about to be honest. The only thing out of place in the endings is the fate of the normandy. The rest of it fits to the game where you are fighting a war you cannot possibly win by conventional means and people die. Well in war people die. You cant choose who and when in real life so why should you in game? Unless you want the reapers to win. Life sucks. Deal with it.

Oh and as far as no closure at the end... there may be a reason for that. But people are so blinded by hate of the ending that they cant see it.

That means either they are releasing large DLC that will give closure, meaning you have to pay extra to get your closure to Shepards story, or they are making a future game that will provide closure, meaning that you have to wait 2+ years and pay extra to get your closure to Shepards story. They aren't blinded by hate, they see exactly what is going on, and don't want to be milked by EA for more money. Bioware also said many times that Mass Effect 3 would provide closure. They basically lied. 

Modifié par EJ107, 09 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[Sparten110]

I never heard that, but even if they did say it wouldn't that be a matter of opinoin?

[shnellegaming]

dreman9999 wrote...

If you were paying attention, you would see that the conclusion was set way back in ME1. You'll really see it if you get the prothean.

Actually if you compare ME1 ending and ME3 ending there is a VERY big plot hole.

I don't mind the endings they created.  I mind how they were executed.  There are plot holes all over the place.  And the rest of the game is just stellar.  I thought the rest of the game had beautiful narrative, choice everything.  Thing is the better the game got the worse it was when the ending hit.

Mostly I just look at the endings and think, "wow thats where the Multiplayer budget came from."  And I love the Multiplayer.

Modifié par shnellegaming, 09 mars 2012 - 08:32 .

[willnz]

During the course of the game it does seem to be the most choice driven. Emphasis on the during (i.e geth/quarian, turian/krogan etc all seemed good), it was all just ruined on the endings that take no choices into account and end the story on a sour note.

PS believe it or not i am a big fan of the endings as i think it at least shows bioware has some guts to make a bittersweet ending with out copping out on a 'happy ever after' like almost ALL other games

[ironcreed2]

EJ107 wrote...

pipsfootyeye wrote...

Wow. Take a step back people.

Although I dont like the endings per-se (bar the merge ending) i really dont see what people are getting so upset about to be honest. The only thing out of place in the endings is the fate of the normandy. The rest of it fits to the game where you are fighting a war you cannot possibly win by conventional means and people die. Well in war people die. You cant choose who and when in real life so why should you in game? Unless you want the reapers to win. Life sucks. Deal with it.

Oh and as far as no closure at the end... there may be a reason for that. But people are so blinded by hate of the ending that they cant see it.

That means either they are releasing large DLC that will give closure, meaning you have to pay extra to get your closure to Shepards story, or they are making a future game that will provide closure, meaning that you have to wait 2+ years and pay extra to get your closure to Shepards story. They aren't blinded by hate, they see exactly what is going on, and don't want to be milked by EA for more money. Bioware also said many times that Mass Effect 3 would provide closure. They basically lied. 

Just started my playthrough last night, and am enjoying it for the most part. All this talk about the endings have me a bit worried, though. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

[brunomalta]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

What kills me is the little message that pops up and tells you to continue the story with DLC............................................................

REALLY? It says that?

[Rheinlandman]

ironcreed2 wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

pipsfootyeye wrote...

Wow. Take a step back people.

Although I dont like the endings per-se (bar the merge ending) i really dont see what people are getting so upset about to be honest. The only thing out of place in the endings is the fate of the normandy. The rest of it fits to the game where you are fighting a war you cannot possibly win by conventional means and people die. Well in war people die. You cant choose who and when in real life so why should you in game? Unless you want the reapers to win. Life sucks. Deal with it.

Oh and as far as no closure at the end... there may be a reason for that. But people are so blinded by hate of the ending that they cant see it.

That means either they are releasing large DLC that will give closure, meaning you have to pay extra to get your closure to Shepards story, or they are making a future game that will provide closure, meaning that you have to wait 2+ years and pay extra to get your closure to Shepards story. They aren't blinded by hate, they see exactly what is going on, and don't want to be milked by EA for more money. Bioware also said many times that Mass Effect 3 would provide closure. They basically lied. 

Just started my playthrough last night, and am enjoying it for the most part. All this talk about the endings have me a bit worried, though. Guess I'll find out soon enough.

Don't get us wrong, many of us will totally agree the game was amazing.  In my opinion as a whole it was the best in the series.

That said I felt the ending was such a jarring, cynical, iredeemable bit of uninspired writing that it has ruined the whole of the series for me.

Maybe it won't for you, you'll have to see.

[Gigamantis]

Ronin1325 wrote...

I'm a longtime fan of your games, and I hate to say this, but you falsely advertised this game. You repeatedly & publicly stated that it would be the most open-ended and choice-driven game in the trilogy. It clearly is not. The anger that people are feeling over the ending is just a symptom of that. If nothing else a public apology for the false statements is in order.

There can't really be a discussion about this until you provide a dated direct quote from them.  What exactly they said and when in development they said it is important in determining how "lied to" you were.

If anything I think this trend of trying to pick at pre-release hype is just a symptom of people being immensely butthurt over the ending.  In fact, I think a lot of the overblown, irrational criticism of this game is butthurt over the ending.