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[Althix]

look endings are good. any of it. be it red, blue or green. Besides, after DA2 i was worried about ME3 concept. But still you have a choices to make, and in given circumstances(you know big badass machines butchering everything on land and space) it's was far more than it can be.

but all this galaxy at war, status of army like 100% ready and 7k of points have no effect on gameplay on the last mission. i fail to see a purpose of this galaxy at war, war assets etc. they have no impact on gameplay at all.

[Well]

DA2 in space.The OP is right.You get a choice to spend your money as they micromanage the whole game.No thanks.I just unsub from SWTOR.I bought BG1 when it first came out but this was my last product from BW.No loss.They aren't going to crumble because of me.I don't want them to anyways.Oh well.
Just a note:Netflix is 8 bucks a month.A better bargain.Same thing.Watch the whole thing and no real choices.Just like the game.

Modifié par Well, 09 mars 2012 - 08:59 .

[TiffyG10]

I'm not surprised... I was a fan of DA Series before Mass Effect & with what they did in DA...

I would expect the same stupid s*** in Mass Effect LOL

Never supporting BW again...

Just glad this game happened to be a filler, while I wait for KOA DLC March 20th WOOT

More power to the new company +++ 

Modifié par TiffyG10, 09 mars 2012 - 08:49 .

[Legion64]

How does anybody finish this game within 4 days? I have no free time!

[Althix]

not even close to DA2. After DA:O Bioware could create an epic game in DA setting, like in old days of BG1/2. However DA2 is a slasher for console kiddos.

In ME setting, course of actions for the character(and a character as well) is set as soon as you start the game. There is no if, there is no possibility of doing something on your own will. Character is a soldier, he have an enemy and task to defeat that enemy. There is no step back or step to the right or left. Only forward to glory. It was always that way since ME1.

Of course there is a possibility that if Bioware gave more resources to ME3 instead of making SWTOR, we would have a better game. But we will never know.
Besides there is not so much options in this game in general, unless you are indoctrinated by a Reapers.

Legion64 wrote...

How does anybody finish this game within 4 days? I have no free time!

 
twice in fact. going for third attempt. have a free week.

Modifié par secretsandlies, 09 mars 2012 - 09:10 .

[FlashedMyDrive]

I liked the part where every choice you made had no effect on the ending. Save geth? Doesn't matter. Save Quarians? Doesn't matter. Cure Genophage? Doesn't matter.

I really liked the colors at the end. I can't believe they had 3 of them!

[Reorte]

secretsandlies wrote...

look endings are good. any of it. be it red, blue or green. Besides, after DA2 i was worried about ME3 concept. But still you have a choices to make, and in given circumstances(you know big badass machines butchering everything on land and space) it's was far more than it can be.

but all this galaxy at war, status of army like 100% ready and 7k of points have no effect on gameplay on the last mission. i fail to see a purpose of this galaxy at war, war assets etc. they have no impact on gameplay at all.

That's why I can accept the large-scale impacts but not the personal ones. A large, destructive war might only possibly be able to end one way on a large scale but that says nothing about the fates of the individuals involved, only the probability. So everything from all main characters die to all main characters live happily ever after is possible, some more than others. If that was the case, as it was with ME2, that would be great. Certainly what we got is no more plausible than some more cheerful possibilities.

Hell, if you want a realistic outcome, considering the numbers involved Shepard would probably have died on Eden Prime shortly after Jenkins.

[Ronin1325]

Miashi wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. 

Sorry to break it to you, but the 2 other Mass Effects weren't what one would qualify as "open ended" either.
I think it's more of an unsatisfying ending (as far as I can tell from some comments anyway).

I never said they *were*. All I am saying is that Bioware marketed the game as being the most open-ended of the trilogy and that your choices in ME1&2 would have the most relevance in 3. It isn't, and they don't.

Also, as an aside, as other users have posted, due to a cannon event in ME2 (Arrival), things end... badly for any system with a Mass Relay in ME3.

[Ronin1325]

jmood88 wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. I won't comment on the ending because of the spoiler issue. When they advertised the game's openess they said the whole game (not just the ending) would be the most variable of the three, and that the choices we made in ME1&2 would have even more conscequence. That is not true, and even a cursory glace at the story/gameplay threads will confirm that.

You need a girlfriend.

LOL Actually I'm happily Married and my wife is as much of a gamer as I am.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Miashi wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. 

Sorry to break it to you, but the 2 other Mass Effects weren't what one would qualify as "open ended" either.
I think it's more of an unsatisfying ending (as far as I can tell from some comments anyway).

I never said they *were*. All I am saying is that Bioware marketed the game as being the most open-ended of the trilogy and that your choices in ME1&2 would have the most relevance in 3. It isn't, and they don't.

Also, as an aside, as other users have posted, due to a cannon event in ME2 (Arrival), things end... badly for any system with a Mass Relay in ME3.

Actually, dude, it does. One choice in paticular from ME1 that seemed so minor at the time saved a life in part 3. It is insane how one little side mission had a ripple effect and saved someone's life. And it resulted in some epic SHIPPING!

Yes, I'm one of those Fanfiction lovers. AND I SHIPPED THE HELL OUTTA THAT!

[Ronin1325]

Gigamantis wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

I'm a longtime fan of your games, and I hate to say this, but you falsely advertised this game. You repeatedly & publicly stated that it would be the most open-ended and choice-driven game in the trilogy. It clearly is not. The anger that people are feeling over the ending is just a symptom of that. If nothing else a public apology for the false statements is in order.

There can't really be a discussion about this until you provide a dated direct quote from them.  What exactly they said and when in development they said it is important in determining how "lied to" you were.

If anything I think this trend of trying to pick at pre-release hype is just a symptom of people being immensely butthurt over the ending.  In fact, I think a lot of the overblown, irrational criticism of this game is butthurt over the ending. 

I am not 'butthurt' by the ending. That's only a symptom to me. What you consider to be 'pre-release hype' I consider to be false advertising. If you bought a video card that claimed '5400 happy points of power' , but only had 2500 in reality, would you consider the maker of that card to be honest? Bioware made a big point of selling the game based on how much influence we would have on the game, throughout playing it. Ultimately none of our choices from all the games, make any real difference. THAT is false advertising.

[Ronin1325]

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Miashi wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. 

Sorry to break it to you, but the 2 other Mass Effects weren't what one would qualify as "open ended" either.
I think it's more of an unsatisfying ending (as far as I can tell from some comments anyway).

I never said they *were*. All I am saying is that Bioware marketed the game as being the most open-ended of the trilogy and that your choices in ME1&2 would have the most relevance in 3. It isn't, and they don't.

Also, as an aside, as other users have posted, due to a cannon event in ME2 (Arrival), things end... badly for any system with a Mass Relay in ME3.

Actually, dude, it does. One choice in paticular from ME1 that seemed so minor at the time saved a life in part 3. It is insane how one little side mission had a ripple effect and saved someone's life. And it resulted in some epic SHIPPING!

Yes, I'm one of those Fanfiction lovers. AND I SHIPPED THE HELL OUTTA THAT!

Avoiding spoilers makes it difficult to discuss here sometimes, but again, given what was established in ME2's 'Arrival', the ending of ME3 can't possibly be good for anyone.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Moonshadow_Dark wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Miashi wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. 

Sorry to break it to you, but the 2 other Mass Effects weren't what one would qualify as "open ended" either.
I think it's more of an unsatisfying ending (as far as I can tell from some comments anyway).

I never said they *were*. All I am saying is that Bioware marketed the game as being the most open-ended of the trilogy and that your choices in ME1&2 would have the most relevance in 3. It isn't, and they don't.

Also, as an aside, as other users have posted, due to a cannon event in ME2 (Arrival), things end... badly for any system with a Mass Relay in ME3.

Actually, dude, it does. One choice in paticular from ME1 that seemed so minor at the time saved a life in part 3. It is insane how one little side mission had a ripple effect and saved someone's life. And it resulted in some epic SHIPPING!

Yes, I'm one of those Fanfiction lovers. AND I SHIPPED THE HELL OUTTA THAT!

Avoiding spoilers makes it difficult to discuss here sometimes, but again, given what was established in ME2's 'Arrival', the ending of ME3 can't possibly be good for anyone.

We saved the universe. That's good, right?

RIGHT?

[Ronin1325]

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

I know what happened. That can be retified with some duct tape.

[Aesieru]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

It was overloaded while the rings were spinning still and thus containment was active. Containment was disabled  and the rings stopped spinning the overload of the element zero / dark energy reserves in the Alpha relay will not occur in the others.

Logic.

[LinksOcarina]

Ronin1325 wrote...

The game is not open-ended. I won't comment on the ending because of the spoiler issue. When they advertised the game's openess they said the whole game (not just the ending) would be the most variable of the three, and that the choices we made in ME1&2 would have even more conscequence. That is not true, and even a cursory glace at the story/gameplay threads will confirm that.

Um...

you are wrong, but I can't say why in this forum because of spoilers. 

So yeah, stop please? 

[Ronin1325]

Aesieru wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

It was overloaded while the rings were spinning still and thus containment was active. Containment was disabled  and the rings stopped spinning the overload of the element zero / dark energy reserves in the Alpha relay will not occur in the others.

Logic.

So... you're saying they were all 'deactivated' instead of... doing what happened in "Arrival"? Well I hope there's some cannon support of that, because it doesn't seem clear at ME3's end. If you're right I'm actually glad of that, because I don't actually want "Arrival's" scenario to happen all over the galaxy.

[Saints_]

neenee77 wrote...

I don't understand what your talking about. It is open ended. there are happy endings. they are all different. plus there are different variations depending on your playthroughs. I don't see any false advertising at all.

The only thing different about the endings is the colour of the Crucibles wave.

[Eradyn]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

It was overloaded while the rings were spinning still and thus containment was active. Containment was disabled  and the rings stopped spinning the overload of the element zero / dark energy reserves in the Alpha relay will not occur in the others.

Logic.

So... you're saying they were all 'deactivated' instead of... doing what happened in "Arrival"? Well I hope there's some cannon support of that, because it doesn't seem clear at ME3's end. If you're right I'm actually glad of that, because I don't actually want "Arrival's" scenario to happen all over the galaxy.

Technically they all exploded.  Into pieces.  Everywhere.  All while sending out a wave of energy that coats the galaxy.  In the worst endings, this energy apparently fries everything.  In the best, it just...coats it? *shrugs*

[Moonshadow_Dark]

makalathbonagin wrote...

in any other game maybe, but this is character driven story no one in their right mind wanted shep to [REDACTED] after all that she/he has been through

Leaving Shepard around would invite people to protest Shepard's exclusion in future games if they don't like the new protagonist or worse, give Shepard the "Master Chief treatment" and keep dragging them back into the spotlight. This is best. For all of us. Just like Mr. Marshton.

[Moonshadow_Dark]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Aesieru wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

It was overloaded while the rings were spinning still and thus containment was active. Containment was disabled  and the rings stopped spinning the overload of the element zero / dark energy reserves in the Alpha relay will not occur in the others.

Logic.

So... you're saying they were all 'deactivated' instead of... doing what happened in "Arrival"? Well I hope there's some cannon support of that, because it doesn't seem clear at ME3's end. If you're right I'm actually glad of that, because I don't actually want "Arrival's" scenario to happen all over the galaxy.

We can still undo what happened. We turned one on. I think we can piece one back together.

[jcolt]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Uhm... You did play 'Arrival', right? What happend to the mass relay in that? What happens to EVERY mass relay at the end of ME3?

i really hope you didnt just give away the ending of me3 without the smallest of spoiler warning.

Modifié par jcolt, 09 mars 2012 - 11:18 .

[Gigamantis]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

I'm a longtime fan of your games, and I hate to say this, but you falsely advertised this game. You repeatedly & publicly stated that it would be the most open-ended and choice-driven game in the trilogy. It clearly is not. The anger that people are feeling over the ending is just a symptom of that. If nothing else a public apology for the false statements is in order.

There can't really be a discussion about this until you provide a dated direct quote from them.  What exactly they said and when in development they said it is important in determining how "lied to" you were.

If anything I think this trend of trying to pick at pre-release hype is just a symptom of people being immensely butthurt over the ending.  In fact, I think a lot of the overblown, irrational criticism of this game is butthurt over the ending. 

I am not 'butthurt' by the ending. That's only a symptom to me. What you consider to be 'pre-release hype' I consider to be false advertising. If you bought a video card that claimed '5400 happy points of power' , but only had 2500 in reality, would you consider the maker of that card to be honest? Bioware made a big point of selling the game based on how much influence we would have on the game, throughout playing it. Ultimately none of our choices from all the games, make any real difference. THAT is false advertising.

No, everything in development is subject to change.  That's why you need a direct quote and a timestamp to even make the claim that it's false advertising.  You weren't promised anything, they just let you in on their goals for the game.  If you think they didn't accomplish that particular goal then say so, but leave your grade-school understanding of advertising fraud out of it. 

Modifié par Gigamantis, 09 mars 2012 - 10:10 .