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[JackDresden]

Ok I've been playing on normal level all the way through my main is now level 16 I have Shale wyn (is that how you spell it) & Ogrin with me. I'm a mage who took an odd combination of Arcane Warrior and Shape shifter.

I've tried 3 times now to beat the brood mother and the nearest I've got is to get here down to about an 6th of her health at which time I have win and my main still standing, Shale and Ogrin having both fallen, I've even ressurected Ogrin once, before I han out of health potions, and mana potions.

So my main and wyn are still standing against 6 yellow tentacles, the central brood mother, 2 shrieks and 2 archers that have yet appeared we are out of potions, so what do we do......answer.......kill two Shrieks & one archer before my main falls and I give up and quit the game in frustration, since I'd already survived 3 waves and driven back the first batch of tentacles.

This battle is long frustrating and as far as I can tell near impossible to win on normal level.

Did no one at Bioware try to balance the game.....it should be hard in places but not almost totally impossible...

Anyway giving up for the night now to frustrated to go on for a while.

[Jayce]

Stand on the rocky bit in the bottom left hand corner of the area. Set your characters to hold their position on the rocky bit, then have Wynne and Shale used their ranged attack abilities while Oghran mops up any Grenlocks that spawn in.

The tentacles are completely ineffective outside of the fleshy ground and can't attack you unless you stand adjacent to them. Watch out for the BMs spit ability though.

Modifié par Jayce F, 26 novembre 2009 - 08:26 .

[corb01772]

This was a hard fight... but its not impossible. I beat it on my first try on Normal using my warrior PC, Alistair, Leliana, and Morrigan.



You need to have good crowd control with your mage to win this fight. Force Field the brood mother so she is out of the battle. Sleep/Nightmare the darkspawn she summons. Then get to killing those tentacles. If your characters are good most of the darkspawn and tentacles should be dead by the time force field wears off so you can attack the brood mother alone for a bit before she resummons everything.

[Kolaris8472]

If you want to fight on her 'Creep' then focus fire the Tentacles first.



But if you're really having a hard time of hit, run up the rocky rises that go up behind her, then fire down AoE spells until she's dead. That is, if your Mage has any Fireballs/Blizzards/Tempests...She can't fight back.

[Mistress9Nine]

JackDresden wrote...
...before I ran out of health potions, and mana potions.

See this where I realize that you're not really using your characters to the fullest. If you were just a tiny bit into using all your abilities you could've crafted a gazillion mana/health potions by now. You already finished the Mage Tower since Wynne is in you party, which gives you an unlimited supply of Lyrium Dust. And even if you haven't finished the Brecilian Forest quest you should've found quite a lot of Elfroot by now. So unlimited mana potions with a moderate amount of health potions and Wynne in your party should be a free ticket to victory.

I know this was more of a scolding than advice, but still, I don't know your talent choices and stuff enough to give you useful advice, so I'll just offer you this little tipp to help you through future encounters.

[JackDresden]

Jayce F wrote...

Stand on the rocky bit in the bottom left hand corner of the area. Set your characters to hold their position on the rocky bit, then have Wynne and Shale used their ranged attack abilities while Oghran mops up any Grenlocks that spawn in.

The tentacles are completely ineffective outside of the fleshy ground and can't attack you unless you stand adjacent to them. Watch out for the BMs spit ability though.

Thank you that sounds like a good tip.

I did find a good exploit of transforming into the swarm then getting in close and directly attacking the brood mother the tentacles can't get in close enough and her main attack does nothing though it takes a long time to wear her down and the dark spawn she summons can still get you (which is why it didn't work.

[rabbitchannel]

I beat it the first try on hard so I barely recall how it even went. I had Alastair and my dual wield warrior PC beat on it while I had Wynne and Morrigan stand back and CoC for crowd control on occasion.

[bjdbwea]

Exactly. Force field her whenever the tentacles and minions come out. Then attack the tentacles with your fighters and try to take out the cannon fodder with your mage (cone of cold etc). If necessary, use the fighters as well of course. Maybe it was just one-time luck, but that worked surprisingly well on "hard" for me. You should of course always have enough healing and mana potions! That is key, and you should head back out to get supplies, remember you can travel via the map, no need to run through all the caves again. And don't forget to actually use the potions, or set your tactics so that your companions use them on their own. Of course, if you don't have effective spells yet, you might have to do other quests first and come back later.

[Kolaris8472]

The only thing you have to be careful about is attacking the Brood Mother herself from the front while there are still Tentacles. Her 'Grab' attack...I don't think you can free yourself from it in the normal ways, and she just didn't let go of Oghren until he'd gone from 85% health to dead.

[PhD-gaming]

At first, I just tried bum-rushing the broodmother, and try to take her down quick, but that doesn't work so great. Instead,



I gast a glyph of warding right where I spawned when the battle started, told ogrehn and alistair to hold their positions (they attack the darkspawn and tentacles when they come inside the glyph) and have myself and morrigan just use our staves until the broodmother was dead. Requires a couple healing spells and maybe a few extra offensive spells depending on how the battle is turning out, but my method was actually very effective.



Hope this helps.

[BGFU888]

If you are going to stand in the fleshy area and fight the tentacles make sure you are focus firing on one at a time. Each tentacle will go down after that way reducing the amount of damage you're taking.

[MadCat221]

I dropped large AoE primal magic effects on it whenever they were available from the two mages present.  Firestorm + Tempest + Blizzard, and maybe one of the hexes that causes elemental weakness for added effect.  Dear Ol' Mum has a lot of HP, but it can't dodge the AoE.  Deal with the darkspawn and avoid the tentacle rape while the Brood Mother gets cooked, and then move in afterwards to hack the Mother directly with all your chars maxed for DPS until your mages' big power AoE spells are refreshed and ready to go again.

I'm presuming Silverite runes work on the Brood Mother?  You should have lots of those on all available weapons in the Deep Roads anyway.

Modifié par MadCat221, 26 novembre 2009 - 09:47 .

[ckriley]

Well, I didn't read through most of the responses in this thread, but I can tell you the easiest way to beat her is to largely ignore her. Kill all the adds and tentacles. Once they're down, have you and your tank run in and start meleeing her. Rinse and repeat until dead. I was getting pwned by her as well until I figured that out. The key is to kill the adds and the tentacles.

[Bluesmith]

Jayce F wrote...

Stand on the rocky bit in the bottom left hand corner of the area. Set your characters to hold their position on the rocky bit, then have Wynne and Shale used their ranged attack abilities while Oghran mops up any Grenlocks that spawn in.

The tentacles are completely ineffective outside of the fleshy ground and can't attack you unless you stand adjacent to them. Watch out for the BMs spit ability though.

This is the credited strategy. You'll take almost no damage whatsoever from the Broodmother, especially if you space your characters a bit (so her acid spit doesn't splash beyond its initial target). The Shrieks and Genlocks will outdps her over the course of this fight...

[JJM152]

ckriley wrote...

Well, I didn't read through most of the responses in this thread, but I can tell you the easiest way to beat her is to largely ignore her. Kill all the adds and tentacles. Once they're down, have you and your tank run in and start meleeing her. Rinse and repeat until dead. I was getting pwned by her as well until I figured that out. The key is to kill the adds and the tentacles.

This is about right. Also, having 2 warriors instead of two mages for this fight helps a lot. BM has a ton of HP and no opportunity to backstab her either, so your best damage dealers are going to be warriors with big beefy weapons.

This fight was a breeze for me with:

My PC (Dual Wield Berserker/Templar)
Ogren (2h Weapon Berserker)
Leilllana (Archery - Arrow of slaying ftw)
Wynne (basically set on auto heal)

I grabbed all my charaters and had them focus fire on tentacles until darkspawn came out. Then I had the two warriors sodomize the darkspawn (at this point in the game, around level 15 or so, non elite darkspawn are jokes), Then back to tentacles.

Just keep repeating this until no more tentacles spawn and then chop the broodmother to tiny pieces.

Also, you may want to backtrack to the Circle of Magi tower and purchase like 200 lyrium dusts and 200 flasks from the party camp and then make 200 lesser lyrium potions. Setting Wynne to drink these at 50 or 25% mana and putting her on auto heal mode is basically.. well, WIN (Wynne is Win?)

It really kind of cheapens the game tbh... but oh well.

[Bluesmith]

To everyone suggesting that killing the tentacles is smart: if you stand on the rocky parts and bow/staff her, the tentacles literally cannot damage you. One person will take damage from acid spit, but it's negligible (and if you really cared, you could let that person draw aggro, build up a threat lead, and then force field him, thereby ensuring that your entire party takes 0 damage from her). The adds are a bigger threat.

[Darth_Shizz]

Depends on whether you want to cheese the fight or not really. As others have pointed out, it's very possible to get by sitting on the rocks and avoiding the main threat (tentacles), though I personally don't view that as being very fun I managed to get by this one first try on hard, albeit barely. My pc was the last one standing with all 4 tentacles up, as well as archers to contend with...he somehow managed to kill the archers, then limp over to a low health brood mother to deliver the killing blow. He had about 10-20 health left. But I digress.

I fought this one with 3 melee + morrigan (dw/s&b/2h and one into heal @ mori). I found that putting one of each of the melee on a tentacle when they spawned brought them down pretty quickly, as opposed to focus fire, which led to some of them focussing morrigan. Once they were down, I had my melee spread out along brood and whack on her till she called for adds (around 50%). At this point, morrigan would cc & destroy as many as she could, whilst my dual-wielder picked off any that came at her...meanwhile, my 2h and s&b were on tentacle duty. Once the darkspawn were controlled and dead, I moved pc + mori onto the tentacles, then resumed beating on brood until the second time she called adds (25%). This is where it can kinda go wrong, because archers coupled with shrieks can be a real pain. Best advice I could give here, is to wait a second, then chuck out a sleep or some form of aoe disable. This should slow the shrieks down enough for your melee to mop them up, at which point, have your ranged characters (and melee, if you're lacking range) deal with the archers whilst your melee deals with the tentacles...then back on to brood. Are you seeing a pattern emerge here? Unfortunately, mine didn't go as smoothly as this due to me being unprepared for the shrieks.

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 27 novembre 2009 - 12:53 .

[Sir Elliot]

Kill tentacles first, directly control wynne to focus heal anybody that gets to 50% health, don't be afraid to use group heal, change wynne's tactics so she stops using arcane bolt and wasting her mana.



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[Varenus Luckmann]

Never had a problem on hard, as a gimp rogue archer. I don't see how you can have a problem with it, especially at a low difficulty and with two mages. Kill tentacles, kill adds, kill Brood Mother, in that order.

Apart from that, there's plenty of solid advice already. Tell us how it goes.

[Zarenthar]

Mistress9Nine wrote...

JackDresden wrote...
...before I ran out of health potions, and mana potions.

See this where I realize that you're not really using your characters to the fullest. If you were just a tiny bit into using all your abilities you could've crafted a gazillion mana/health potions by now. You already finished the Mage Tower since Wynne is in you party, which gives you an unlimited supply of Lyrium Dust. And even if you haven't finished the Brecilian Forest quest you should've found quite a lot of Elfroot by now. So unlimited mana potions with a moderate amount of health potions and Wynne in your party should be a free ticket to victory.

I know this was more of a scolding than advice, but still, I don't know your talent choices and stuff enough to give you useful advice, so I'll just offer you this little tipp to help you through future encounters.

I really don't know how ppl can run out of healing/mana pots... I crafted a total of 15 ish reg mana pots all that I have I looted on mobs throughout the game. I have over 80 of both healing /mana of different strentgh and I virtually only use them on bosses. That's actually part of the reason I switched to Nightmare on my first play through.

[gurugeorge]

Once you discover the rocky ledges, it's a piece of cake - mages stand there, melee guys do down to the tentacles (they can't get onto the rock) and deal with them, plus any adds that come, and when there's a breather, chip away at her. Rinse and repeat till she's down. But don't let your mages attract her attention so she uses her poison spit on them, they'll go down fast.

Yeah and can we please stop waving our e-peens in the faces of people who come here for advice? Not everyone's an expert on all the ins and outs of the game, and people coming for advice isn't meant to be an opportunity to prove how oh so superior you are at ... playing a g*****n videogame ferchrissakes.

Modifié par gurugeorge, 27 novembre 2009 - 02:00 .

[Ninjaphrog]

rab****annel wrote...

I beat it the first try on hard so I barely recall how it even went. I had Alastair and my dual wield warrior PC beat on it while I had Wynne and Morrigan stand back and CoC for crowd control on occasion.

you proud?

[Onlyasandwich]

I had my dw rogue, shale, morrigan, and oghren in this fight. Basically just focus fired tentacles and killed adds, dps'd on boss between waves. I did get whittled down to only Shale after the last wave, but with a flawless natural armor crystal on and Shale's defense mode enabled, the brood mother when alone could not damage her at all. Brood Mother seemed to be vulnerable to ice damage if I recall.

This was on hard.  Challenging fight at first, but ended in shale just meleeing without danger.

Modifié par Onlyasandwich, 27 novembre 2009 - 02:07 .

[Fishy]

No shield Warrior? lol.

Also Learn it and love it ... A warrior with a bow and speccing in shield's a Very powerful character (My warrior he's a Berserker/Templar with the Blood magic Warden keep abilities using BOW and board/Sword .. and he's a bad ass.

YES berserker work great for sword and shield .. 2H it's gimp

Modifié par Suprez30, 27 novembre 2009 - 02:29 .