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[nitefyre410]

Nobrandminda wrote...

"The Catalyst starts going on and on about how the created will always kill the creator.  The most critical moment in the game, and yet, there's no option to jerk that kid up by his holographic hair and say, "Bulls***!  Look out there.  Geth and Quarian, fighting side by side.  Look at the Normandy, look at Joker and EDI.  We're making it work.  Maybe it will last, maybe it won't, but who the f*** are you deny us the chance to try?""

^this hits it right on head. 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 09 mars 2012 - 08:00 .

[Cody211282]

Damn man you hit almost every spot.

Now it's just a matter of time until this thread is moved so noone will ever see it.

[Tsantilas]

Luigitornado wrote...

Don't agree. There has been a build up for this moment since the first game.

But okay.

Bull****.  The story was supposed to be about the reapers saving the galaxy from dark energy.  The story for ME3 was rewritten later to the story now.

The thing is, I can think of way more endings that make a lot more sense than the **** we got now.  Assuming that reapers are controlled by the catalyst and their purpose is to preserve organic life by harvesting them before synthetics destroy them... which is a load of crap:

1.  Shepard tells the catalyst that organics have made peace with synthetics (If you did) so it should make the reapers just **** off back to wherever they came from... why does he have to sacrifice himself to control them?

2.  The catalyst (or whichever race of geniuses decided reapers are a good solution) could have... oh I don't know... have the reapers just kill the synthetics in the first place rather than harvest the organics.  I mean... really, what?

3.  The reapers are able to indoctrinate living beings (organic or synthetic) so they could have easily just made it clear that synthetics will always whipe out organics so dont go creating artificial intelligence... or else.

4.  The crucible was designed by the races from previous cycles as a weapon against the reapers... but how did they know what it does?  How did they now about the catalyst?  The Catalyst itself says that Shepard is the first organic to speak to it.  How do you design a weapon without knowing it's function?

The list goes on...

Basically it's just a bull**** storyline.  No matter how you look at it, you can't have the purpose of the reapers being: "Yo dawg, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".  It's just a poor concept.  Some super technologically advanced genius  beings found that there is a problem with the created always destroying the creators.... so they created the reapers to harvest organic life?  How can they be that smart, and at the same time such idiots?

Modifié par Tsantilas, 09 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[Fishy]

The catalyst was playing God with the whole galaxy. That I don't agree .. Also Tali survive if you destroy the Reaper. Not like you will see her again anyway with the Relay destroyed. Not really dark age either. Thing that are destroyed can be rebuilt.

Modifié par Suprez30, 09 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[I can Hackett]

i dont understand the epilogue if thats buzz aldrin why does the kid call him shepard and if its aldrin is that 1969? duznt make sense


watched it again with subtitles the kid says "tell me another story ABOUT the Shepard but that still doesnt explain why buzz aldrin is alive unless its in the 20th century

Modifié par I can Hackett, 09 mars 2012 - 08:25 .

[DasGota]

Brilliant post, thank you for this.

I haven't felt this insulted by the ending of a series in a long time.

[Nobrandminda]

I can Hackett wrote...

i dont understand the epilogue if thats buzz aldrin why does the kid call him shepard and if its aldrin is that 1969? duznt make sense


watched it again with subtitles the kid says "tell me another story ABOUT the Shepard but that still doesnt explain why buzz aldrin is alive unless its in the 20th century

Perhaps I was unclear.  The old guy was voiced by Buzz Aldrin.  He is listed in the credits as "Stargazer."

I only mentioned it because I think it's a cool cameo.

Modifié par Nobrandminda, 09 mars 2012 - 08:33 .

[mokponobi]

Very well said sir, if only it mattered to those who can do something about it.

Thanks anyway.

[SandTrout]

The OP speaks the truth.

[Kenisis88]

Nobrandminda wrote...

 
"The Catalyst starts going on and on about how the created will always kill the creator.  The most critical moment in the game, and yet, there's no option to jerk that kid up by his holographic hair and say, "Bulls***!  Look out there.  Geth and Quarian, fighting side by side.  Look at the Normandy, look at Joker and EDI.  We're making it work.  Maybe it will last, maybe it won't, but who the f*** are you deny us the chance to try?""

You nailed it right on the head, homes.

[TheLostGenius]

Somethings are better left a mystery. In good writing the imagination can tell the rest of the story. My main concern was that EVERYTHING would be revealed and that can of exposition is simply terrible story telling. The one ending that I've seen of the three was great.

In the beginning The Reapers bring uncertainty but their is hope, and in the end when the Reaper's are stopped, their remains uncertainty but hope.

[Luigitornado]

Tsantilas wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

Don't agree. There has been a build up for this moment since the first game.

But okay.

Bull****.  The story was supposed to be about the reapers saving the galaxy from dark energy.  The story for ME3 was rewritten later to the story now.

The thing is, I can think of way more endings that make a lot more sense than the **** we got now.  Assuming that reapers are controlled by the catalyst and their purpose is to preserve organic life by harvesting them before synthetics destroy them... which is a load of crap:

1.  Shepard tells the catalyst that organics have made peace with synthetics (If you did) so it should make the reapers just **** off back to wherever they came from... why does he have to sacrifice himself to control them?

2.  The catalyst (or whichever race of geniuses decided reapers are a good solution) could have... oh I don't know... have the reapers just kill the synthetics in the first place rather than harvest the organics.  I mean... really, what?

3.  The reapers are able to indoctrinate living beings (organic or synthetic) so they could have easily just made it clear that synthetics will always whipe out organics so dont go creating artificial intelligence... or else.

4.  The crucible was designed by the races from previous cycles as a weapon against the reapers... but how did they know what it does?  How did they now about the catalyst?  The Catalyst itself says that Shepard is the first organic to speak to it.  How do you design a weapon without knowing it's function?

The list goes on...

Basically it's just a bull**** storyline.  No matter how you look at it, you can't have the purpose of the reapers being: "Yo dawg, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics so I made some synthetics to kill you every 50k years so you won't be killed by synthetics".  It's just a poor concept.  Some super technologically advanced genius  beings found that there is a problem with the created always destroying the creators.... so they created the reapers to harvest organic life?  How can they be that smart, and at the same time such idiots?

lol

Metaphysics. That's my explanation. I'm done arguing about the ending. 

[General User]

Nobrandminda wrote...
"The Catalyst starts going on and on about how the created will always kill the creator.  The most critical moment in the game, and yet, there's no option to jerk that kid up by his holographic hair and say, "Bulls***!  Look out there.  Geth and Quarian, fighting side by side.  Look at the Normandy, look at Joker and EDI.  We're making it work.  Maybe it will last, maybe it won't, but who the f*** are you deny us the chance to try?""

You hit it out of the dang park here.  Cheers!

I think Shepard does get the chance to say this... sort of.  He just lets his pistol do the talking.

[Greetz_DK]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Let's start with Shepard getting knocked out by Harbinger.  That was Harbinger right?  I mean, they all look the same to me.

That's racist!

[SumoPanda17]

Great post OP. You make the "This ending isn't right" argument Valid, rather than someone yelling at bioware. I completly agree, the endings just don't suit the game. The choices in the end reminded me of Deus Ex.

[Scelous]

Agreed. For me, this has nothing to do with getting a "happy" ending or a "sad" ending, it has to do with getting an ending that makes even some sense. How in the hell did the Normandy go from fighting a space battle to flying through a disintegrating relay and then landing on Magical Jungle World with people who were in my party?!?! Really, Bioware?! Really?!

Also, I tried shooting Space Kid in the head. In fact, that was the very first choice that I made (didn't work, unfortunately).

[meiwow2]

Anderson didn't die in my walkthrough, he just passed out after I made the illusive man shoot himself in the head. And according to the strategy guide if you have over 5000 readiness your shepard lives regardless if anderson dies or lives and I did have over 5000 but I didn't see any comfirmation that shepard survived though...

[LostInReverie19]

 Agree 100%. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire game until the ending. WTF?! Seriously...what...the...hell? Dammit, Bioware, you were doing a good job until you completely blew the entire ending. 

[minimin]

I wholeheartedly agree with the OP.

[Asuukuru]

+1 for the op.

[ArcanistLibram]

Nobrandminda wrote...
The problem is that the ending is simply wrong.  It is incorrect.  It is simply not what the series was building up to.

I'm not going to quote the whole thing, but it hits all my issues with the ending. The only one missing is the Normandy apparently fleeing the Sol system in the middle of the battle.

[CutieMarkCrusader]

The whole premise of the reapers is flawed. I would have preferred there not to be the magic space kid, but I would have been happy if you had the option to convince him to give the galaxy a chance by proving how synthetics and organics just made peace, or just simply destroy the reapers with an all out final conventional assault where the reapers are destroyed but you lose 90% of the galactic forces. That would have been an awesome paragon/renegade option.

And then of course some ending cut-scenes that would give you full closure from the game where you get to see the product of all your decisions throughout the series, including your love interest. I want my little blue children with Liara goddess dammit!

[NYG1991]

OP should copy/paste into one of the bigger ending threads. He seems pretty spot on for every point.

[Qutayba]

^^ Indeed. Bioware will have a hard time sifting through all the temper tantrums, so we should do everything possible to make it easier for them to find the rational and constructive critiques.

[deamon deathstone1]

Didn't like the ending. It made me feel like my efforts didn't matter really.

I didn't mind Shepard sacrificing her/his live, but it seemed kinda pointless seeing that all the options basically lead to the same point. And I really don't see the point of the destruction of the Mass Relays.