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[Cars0090]

Agreed.

[Morkrash]

Totally agree.  Bumping for great justice.

[Kaiyen Sciratim]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Mass Effect is a character driven story line.

That right there is what I think is the most important issue. I wrote a slightly similar post with a different slant (comparing ME3's ending to Deus Ex), but I think the OP and I agree.

Link: http://social.biowar...5/index/9724831

Modifié par Kaiyen Sciratim, 09 mars 2012 - 11:58 .

[celestiatem]

 Fairly good summation of why this ending blew chunks. Kinda hoping something will be done to alleviate this bad feeling, but I don't think we'll be lucky in that sense. INB4 DLC $$$

[raeting]

Agreed overall.

I think red was just destroy all AI life, though, not all technology.

[ChristianTh]

Agreed overall.
Lets see what Bioware will do or not do.

[Dreogan]

If Bioware needed to read a single post about their crappy, lazy-slapped-together ending, it would be this one.

Hell, I'm half tempted to print out a copy for every employee and mail it to them.

[Levvi]

+1

[Nobrandminda]

ArcanistLibram wrote...

Nobrandminda wrote...
The problem is that the ending is simply wrong.  It is incorrect.  It is simply not what the series was building up to.

I'm not going to quote the whole thing, but it hits all my issues with the ending. The only one missing is the Normandy apparently fleeing the Sol system in the middle of the battle.

I didn't touch on that because it didn't bother me.  People seem to have interpreted the ending to mean that Joker abandoned the fight and is racing the Crusible Energy through the Mass Relay network, but I don't think that's what's going on.  My interpretation is that as soon as Joker saw the energy approching the Normandy, he just went "Oh, ****" and hit the FTL drive and the rest is history.  Any other pilot would have done the same if they had the reflexes and ship power to pull it off.  For all we know, some of them tried and just ended up going in different directions, there's a lot that isn't shown in the ending.

I'm not 100% confident that my interpretation is more accurate than what others have interpreted, but at least on a character level it makes slightly more sense than the idea of Joker abandoning the fleet to do... something.  

I'm still bugged by the fact that I have no idea where the Normandy landed, and I believe I did mention that in the original post.

Modifié par Nobrandminda, 10 mars 2012 - 01:53 .

[Militarized]

Totally /signed. Another person Bioware could learn from on this forum... so many people on this forum with BETTER ideas then the writers at Bioware. Makes me lose total faith in the company.

[SchizoTyler]

OP already said what I came here to say. So +1 to the OP.

[Zeroscape]

Well written and a summary of what is wrong with our current ending. Thank you! +1

[Spectre_Shepard]

Yes.

[Shadow2G]

 That was an excellet summary of how an otherwise stellar game went off the rails, Nobrandminda.

[X-Frame]

Great post. It's amazing how I've read a dozen fan endings that blow the one we have out of the water, and dozens of obvious criticisms that make this ending simple wrong. I don't know how this was ever green lit for development.

[DrDetective]

It's weird how seeing a reasonable statement that I agree with enrages me so....

[Sireniankyle1]

Here is my overall opinion; If you have to defend the ending this much, it probably is bad, and calling someone immature for not liking it is not a way to change their mind.

That much being said, the ending was so bad, in my opinion, it made me dislike the entire series. I fight reapers for 4 years, and this is all I get? I understand that some people prefer death in these situations (I don't see how that makes them mature but whatever), but I wanted a mild happy ending, at least. I'm not saying that everything has to go back to normal, but my shepard was with Liara, and now he'll never see her again, because BioWare wouldn't give me a shot.

I forced my shepard to stay loyal to her for 4 years! There was no point to any of that now. She has 900 years to forget him, before the possibility of heaven (if it exists in mass effect).

Then there is the problem with laziness on BioWare's part where they use different sprites for the endings, and nothing else. Obviously I couldn't kill the reapers, too since it would mean that I'd kill EDI and Legions death would have no meaning. Then Tali would die from infection since her suit probably wouldn't work. So I would have killed a marvelous AI and 2 races (3 counting the reapers), or more if there are more synthetics out there.

So now I'm left with controlling or forcing all races to evolve. If I choose to control, My shepard's consciousness will last forever. Meaning he'll never truly have peace, and he'll still be parted from Liara, and all of his friends. The last choice that makes the most sense in this horrible scenario, is where I force organic and synthetic to merge, but my shepard still dies. The one person who fought harder than anyone else, will die! He doesn't deserve such a dark ending. Why can't he have some happiness in his life without it being taken away?

Shame on you, BioWare. You succeeded in alienating the majority of your fanbase.

[Andy578]

tbh i think the correct ending was the destroy option, its still crap but it did leave it open for a ME4, also BW has hinted at a MMO set in the universe

either way the ends sucked made way more new questions

really what they should of done is have endings based on your decisions

1) self sacrifice, shep dies but you get to see you squad safe and sound and talking about how great shep was

2) shep lives and you get a nice scene on a beach or something with your love interest, if that happens to be tali you get a proper look at her face

3) massive fail, reapers destroy everything, you see a scene where some new species finds Liara's time capsule

Modifié par Andy578, 10 mars 2012 - 04:05 .

[Xsorovos]

Ya know, just beat it.. and I got to tell ya, I'm even more pissed then before, Because I had to sit through over 60 lockups and crashes of this shoddy programmed game (on xbox360, which has never crashed before.. but this game is horse ass) to get an ending that I really think was about the worst ending i've seen in an video game, Even the early NES games of "Great Job, you saved the President" were more fulfilling then this load of crap.

Worst Gaming Company Ever.

[Slappy Ya Face]

OP, you didn't just hit the nail on the head... You fired a Thanix cannon at it.

[Complicated Stares]

I agree with everything stated here to be honest

You got a choice between a horrible ending, a bad ending and an ending straight out of an 80's movie

I've put hundreds of hours into this series I like the universe more than I like the starwars universe, still do even after dealing with the terrible endings. Me and a friend of mine have been writing up a table top game for the mass effect universe we like it so much. We're talking about rewriting the ending so that there is actually a universe to play in post galactic war because otherwise youre kinda ****ed with that. He'll probably post that on here when he gets a chance (don't know what name he's going by here probably crow or kalin or something along those lines)

The main problem that I have besides the huge gainax ending (which I'm not going to go over because that would just be parroting what has already been said) is that unlike starwars, which you have to compare this game too, they really did end there being any possibility for cool stuff to happen after the end of the game. They made it so there really is no more conflict. What a scifi universe needs to remain cool is conflict and open endedness.

Another problem I have is the fact that no matter what you choose shepard dies. I don't mind the fact that he dies, I would however like there to be a choice where he lives it doesn't even have to be something I'd choose I still would like the choice and I'm not talking about the ending where you destroy all synthetic life where you kind of maybe possibly live if you look at the scene at the right angle in the right light while smoking a certain substance while getting beaten with a baseball bat by a stripper. I mean a definitively you live if you choose this option but it's probably not the best option, option. Even a you live and awesome stuff happens option I don't know.

Lastly, I really do hope they release some dlc endings, if they released them tomorrow and they cost 1200 microsoft points to buy a piece. I would sell some games and snap them up faster than a 2 vanguards playing a bronze. I'm just saying I would totally pay for some better endings, I'm really invested in this series, I really want it to be good, I really want this to be the next starwars in popularity.

[DoNuTwInGs]

Bump. Every member of Bioware should read, and reread the OP's post. The ending makes ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE.  None. And this abomination should be fixed. Geth and Quarian conflict, EDI and Joker, nothing makes sense at ALL with the endings and what happened in the story. FIX IT BIOWARE.

[lasertank]

Outstanding thread. BUMP

[blackeyes677]

This is one of the best worded explanations that I have seen.

[Sorenx86]

Fantastic explanation as to why the ending is poorly done. But I'd also like to add the fact that The Arrival DLC from ME2 showed that when a Mass Relay is destroyed it goes supernova and takes out the whole system. And All the relays explode no matter what ending you take at the end of ME3.