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[E5150_Julian]

+1 for the OP... someone give him a medal... Bioware better come out with a DLC containing atleast 10 COMPLETELY different endings, the obvious mission to retake Omega, we know they are working on it, and a few epilogue missions just hanging with the crew and LE or cut scenes showing what happens to everyone.

[kj0600]

Agreed. I hope Bioware reads this!

[Craven1138]

+1 OP, but it all seems quite obvious. Why didn't Bioware see that? How this damn kid can say that BS, when Quarians and Geth are fighting toghether? How can they take away chance for diffrent endings and give us three similar endings that all lead to bad end?

[Adacas]

+1 OP

Modifié par Adacas, 10 mars 2012 - 09:31 .

[XDRonin]

  I got everything I could think of, completed
98% of the game (side missions and all) got every war asset in
the map
that was available (scan every available planet) and after all that...  :pinched:


[IMG]http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt151/gxracer5/MassEffect3-GalacticReadiness.jpg

I played ME1 and love it
I played ME2 (not as good as 1) but still a great game
I played ME3 and got screwed by Bioware at the end.


(this are the endings I got if anyone wants to watch)
youtu.be/N_LVI622vhM

[Sharrack]

Besides the content of the ending i'm also quite annoyed by its presentation. Those last minutes just don't feel like Mass Effect to me. And instead of going out in glory the ending just makes me feel confused because something just doesn't seem to feel right (for example the utter lack of any snark)

[christrek1982]

well said love the game but can't finnish it because no matter what I do or how much I prep I know I and shep are going to loose and the is no chance of happy ending to not just one game but a whole serease. dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with a dark ending but wheres my choice why cant I save the mass relays and reunite with my crew? just feel like ive been kicked in the gut for the sake of dark drama.

[Vilegrim]

what the op said, so, so much.


Catalyst (A genocidal Loon) presents 3 options all of which involve huge amounts of his favourite thing (genocide and death) and we go 'OK! ' erm WHUT?! 

Modifié par Vilegrim, 10 mars 2012 - 01:27 .

[Blue Thunder28]

The sadest thing about the ending was that I absolutely loved it until I checked these forums to see how much everyone hated it (I generally treat these forums like the message boards of IMDB, if I LOVE something than these two sites will absolutely trash it).

But this time, after hours and hours of reading I can completely see where all this fuss is coming from, I'd like to read Bioware's response to it since they were so proud of what they created. Officially I still loved my ending, but secretly inside I'm dying at my most beloved fictional universe being tainted..

That said, I'm still greatly anticipating where they take these games from here!!

edit: Forgot to mention, are all these plot-holes due to the emergency rewrite they had to do after the script was leaked 4 or so months ago??

Modifié par Blue Thunder28, 10 mars 2012 - 01:34 .

[Serp86]

XDRonin wrote...

  I got everything I could think of, completed
98% of the game (side missions and all) got every war asset in
the map
that was available (scan every available planet) and after all that...  :pinched:


[img]http://i607.photobucket.com/albums/tt151/gxracer5/MassEffect3-GalacticReadiness.jpg

I played ME1 and love it
I played ME2 (not as good as 1) but still a great game
I played ME3 and got screwed by Bioware at the end.


(this are the endings I got if anyone wants to watch)
youtu.be/N_LVI622vhM

I got slightly more War assets (~7200 and still missing maybe 200-300 i guess) but is got the same thing. I guess it caps out after you reach 5000k ( which is not all that hard if you play 2-3 Maps of Multiplayer ).

[Dean_the_Young]

CutieMarkCrusader wrote...

The whole premise of the reapers is flawed. I would have preferred there not to be the magic space kid, but I would have been happy if you had the option to convince him to give the galaxy a chance by proving how synthetics and organics just made peace, or just simply destroy the reapers with an all out final conventional assault where the reapers are destroyed but you lose 90% of the galactic forces. That would have been an awesome paragon/renegade option.

Uh, you did have a chance of organic-synthetic? By the choice of Synthesis?

Not to mention that the fact that the Catalyst already concedes his flawed premise, and the right for Shepard to choose.

And then of course some ending cut-scenes that would give you full closure from the game where you get to see the product of all your decisions throughout the series, including your love interest. I want my little blue children with Liara goddess dammit!

So choose Destroy with a Shepard-living ending, and go from there.

Epilogue slides aren't only unneeded given the amount of fore-shadowing that was already given and Bioware's traditionally open-ended ending-slides, anyway, but it would actually cloash with the post-credit 'it's a mysterious galaxy out there to re-discover.'

[Teddie Sage]

I wholeheartedly agree with OP.

[Dean_the_Young]

[quote]Sireniankyle1 wrote...

Here is my overall opinion; If you have to defend the ending this much, it probably is bad, and calling someone immature for not liking it is not a way to change their mind.[/quote]What if we don't call others immature, but do say they have highly flawed  positions?
[quote]
That much being said, the ending was so bad, in my opinion, it made me dislike the entire series. I fight reapers for 4 years, and this is all I get? I understand that some people prefer death in these situations (I don't see how that makes them mature but whatever), but I wanted a mild happy ending, at least. I'm not saying that everything has to go back to normal, but my shepard was with Liara, and now he'll never see her again, because BioWare wouldn't give me a shot.[/quote]Like this. You fight Reapers for four years... and beat the Reapers. The threat is ended despite the cost. Galactic civilizations can rebuild, naturally and free from the threat.

This is a Good Thing, but people treat it like it's the irrelevant part compared to a few personal friends.
[quote]
I forced my shepard to stay loyal to her for 4 years! There was no point to any of that now. She has 900 years to forget him, before the possibility of heaven (if it exists in mass effect). [/quote]Except... this was always going to be the case, bar a hundred-fifty years on the outside. Unless Liara were to be killed in the ending, which you would not accept, Liara was always going to have closer to a millenia than not to live on post-Shepard.


This isn't an issue of the ending. This is a belated realization of biology established all the way back in ME1. If it was true then, and eternity was never in the cards in the first place, how can you say there was 'no point'? Either there never was in the first place, and you should have known that going in, or the 'point' isn't simply achieved by little blue babies.


Which you could still potentially have if you meet the Shepard-lives conditions.

[quote]
Then there is the problem with laziness on BioWare's part where they use different sprites for the endings, and nothing else. Obviously I couldn't kill the reapers, too since it would mean that I'd kill EDI and Legions death would have no meaning. [/quote]They would be dying so that all life thereafter could have a chance to live freely and without fear of the Reapers.

That is a pretty big Point.

[quote]
Then Tali would die from infection since her suit probably wouldn't work.[/quote]Technology still works.
[quote]
So I would have killed a marvelous AI and 2 races (3 counting the reapers), or more if there are more synthetics out there. [/quote]Very true. Now, is it worth the cost of beating the Reapers?

pquote]
So now I'm left with controlling or forcing all races to evolve. If I choose to control, My shepard's consciousness will last forever. Meaning he'll never truly have peace, and he'll still be parted from Liara, and all of his friends. [/quote]Unless, of course, Crucible-Shepard uses those controlled Reapers to invite Liara up for a chat. Or uses Reaper tech to make a personal body. Or hands off the Crucible-duty to someone else at some other time.


[quote]
The last choice that makes the most sense in this horrible scenario, is where I force organic and synthetic to merge, but my shepard still dies. The one person who fought harder than anyone else, will die! He doesn't deserve such a dark ending. [/quote]Death is natural and inevitable. Death for a good cause is respectable. It is not misery unless you choose it to be.
[quote]
Why can't he have some happiness in his life without it being taken away?[/quote]Because all happiness comes at a cost, whether born by yourself.

This is the case here, but has also always been the case: you simply didn't acknowledge it. If you spent any cuddle time with Liara in ME3 before the ending, it was while billions of people were dying. How were you happy knowing that you were taking it easy while others died?
[quote]
Shame on you, BioWare. You succeeded in alienating the majority of your fanbase.[/quote]This remains to be seen. Plenty of people have already calmed down from the initial emotional high.

[Malakar1]

sonogi wrote...

great write-up, but i thought the ending was well done (flame away). the Star Kid was a nice touch, and can simply be interpreted as an ancient intelligence, perhaps part of some highly evolved civilization. i thought it was really cool how the reapers are a sick way of "preserving" the civilizations that came before.

maybe im simple, but i really enjoyed the ending. i thought it would be horribly executed based on all the crying ive been reading, but it was actually well done. sorry, this is just my opinion.

I may be a moron or something but I agree with you. I didn't feel like my world was shattered when I saw the ending. I didn't love it but I didn't mind. There was a nice moment with Anderson and, it felt kinda right. I just don't get what the fuss is about. 

I mean, after all, there is an option to save anderson, save shepard and just destroy synthetic life. Which in my opinion is an happy ending, yes it comes with a sacrefice but I mean, did people really believe tha the galaxy could destroy an entire fleet of reapers without consequences? After to all, it took everything just to kill one reaper in ME1.

This is just my opinion but, happy fairie tell ending always pisses me off. You know, stuff like the death star being destroyed by a stupid missile that went in that stupid hole that leads directly to the thing that blows up the entire thing.

Modifié par Malakar1, 10 mars 2012 - 02:20 .

[x0 Misfit 0x]

I completely agree with the OP. It fell completely flat, with everything. I loved the game, and made sure to stay away from any spoilers till I completed it, now, I wish I never had, because I don't want a happy ending, or a sad one, I want one that is an ending that fits, and realizes all that the Mass Effect series was, and could be. Now, though, not only is Shepard's story over, the Mass Effect universe's is as well, as there is no longer any mass relays, quarians and turians will starve on earth, and, if I understood the ending correctly, all technology is now non-workable.

Sorry if this seemed slightly like a rant, but I'm really disappointed in something that should/could/would've been amazing.

[Dean_the_Young]

Complicated Stares wrote...

The main problem that I have besides the huge gainax ending (which I'm not going to go over because that would just be parroting what has already been said) is that unlike starwars, which you have to compare this game too, they really did end there being any possibility for cool stuff to happen after the end of the game. They made it so there really is no more conflict. What a scifi universe needs to remain cool is conflict and open endedness.

What?

You don't think the rise of new galactic civilizations, long separated with various feelings of animosity between them, won't have conflict?

That the re-connection of the galaxy, as civilizations try to contact with eachother in entirely new structures, will just be peaceful?

That the birth of a new galactic order, especially if/when the idea of new Mass Relays is brought up, won't have serious birth pains as people try and shape the ordeer to their own advantage?

That some of those Big Choices couldn't have Big Consequences down the line, such as hyper-breeding Rachni and Krogan?

Another problem I have is the fact that no matter what you choose shepard dies. I don't mind the fact that he dies, I would however like there to be a choice where he lives it doesn't even have to be something I'd choose I still would like the choice and I'm not talking about the ending where you destroy all synthetic life where you kind of maybe possibly live if you look at the scene at the right angle in the right light while smoking a certain substance while getting beaten with a baseball bat by a stripper. I mean a definitively you live if you choose this option but it's probably not the best option, option. Even a you live and awesome stuff happens option I don't know.

Shepard can be implied to live after the Destroy Ending, if criteria are met.

[staindgrey]

Nobrandminda wrote...

And now you have your choice, and my biggest issue with the ending.  There are so many problems here I don't really know where to start.  I guess I'll start with a very simple question:  Why does the Star Kid give a damn how many war assets I have?  The whole thrust of the game, get more resources to get a better ending, makes sense... right up until this point.  Dude's going to shut his ears and go "La la la" just because we didn't want to spend a few hours scanning uncharted star systems?  Really?

Can anyone explain this to me...? I tried to get the absolute perfect ending; I had my war assets gage thing filled by Thessia. Unless I missed something, I got every side quest and full support from everyone but the Salarians (who I also got, like, half-support from anyway). I can't think of one thing I didn't do in any of the games. So... I didn't get this "la la la" moment.

Does the god-kid-thing not offer you choice if you don't have enough assets or something? Judging by the way the ending played out for me, I'll be honest-- I'm not even sure what my "war assets" contributed. Don't I get to the god-kid regardless?

[Xellith]

OP hit nail on the head.

Yea staind nothing you do maatters really - you just get a slight variance to the end cutscene regardless of anything you have ever done in the ME universe.  Thats it.

Modifié par Xellith, 10 mars 2012 - 02:34 .

[Frocharocha]

Can't agree more.

[azrael_1289]

Totally agree with the OP

[XDRonin]

Serp86 wrote...


I got slightly more War assets (~7200 and still missing maybe 200-300 i guess) but is got the same thing. I guess it caps out after you reach 5000k ( which is not all that hard if you play 2-3 Maps of Multiplayer ).

 Now, that just make me even madder (no that you got more than me) but it means that even if I were to get 100% and every little thing right, it will still get me sucky ending.

[Weeman0313]

You guys are ALL jerks, maybe the writers are Rachni and thats the reason the only difference is the colors?!

[Brynn MacFlynn]

Nobrandminda wrote...

"The Catalyst starts going on and on about how the created will always kill the creator.  The most critical moment in the game, and yet, there's no option to jerk that kid up by his holographic hair and say, "Bulls***!  Look out there.  Geth and Quarian, fighting side by side.  Look at the Normandy, look at Joker and EDI.  We're making it work.  Maybe it will last, maybe it won't, but who the f*** are you deny us the chance to try?""

Fecking this. I am so disappointed in the ending, not because it was terrible no matter what, but because it made no gorram sense.

Oh, and I got a giggle as my heart was breaking over the awfulness of the ending: Kaidan was in my party for the last mission. They clearly showed him getting off the broken down tank with me. He's still in my squad commandy thingy as I'm running. "Okay," I said, "I probably just consigned him to the flames by bringing him with me. Oh well, we had a good run!" Get through the ending, much raging, the ship crashlands, Joker steps out blinking into the sunlight on an alien world, followed by Kaidan, and they stand looking out on the--



What the flibbiting ****?! What, did Kaidan turn around the second I started running and say, "Screw you, Shepard, love you lots, good luck with that whole Reaper thing!" to get on the Normandy? Did he spontaneously develop 'beam me up scottyitis' and poof onto the Normandy? Even barring his complete abandonment of me and our cause we've been fighting towards, there's no way he was 'rescued' before I got to the Star Child.

[MattFini]

Finished it last night and I was pretty sure I was going to be the minority and love the ending ...

But it was so, so terrible. I was planning on starting a second playthrough this weekend but honestly ... I really don't want to. Everything I loved about ME has been tainted by some ridiculous metaphysical nonsense that gets shoehorned into the story in the last five minutes.

And it completely contradicts (or, at least lessens) the events of the first game.

Not to mention the fact that I want to know how my squadmates and LI ended up on the Normandy at the end. So very sloppy and inexcusable.

What a way to tarnish an incredible gaming trilogy ... everything leading up to those last five/ten minutes were PERFECT.

Modifié par MattFini, 10 mars 2012 - 04:17 .

[Quintega]

I didn't love or hate the endings it just felt Weird. I mean There isn't one that you can survive. It also felt like the ending to Star ocean when you find 4g space. It left a lot of unanswered questions and really felt WEIRD