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[Luigitornado]

AxisEvolve wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...
Because it is the nature of the internet. If you were in the minoirty you might feel more compelled for your voice to be heard instead of pooped on by everyone else on what has turn into a giant hate thread.

That's a fair rationality. It's just that Bioware cracks down on multiple threads against the endings.. But they ignore the "positive" ones.

It seems rational to me. 

If you have  a positive opinion about the endings, then enter that thread, you are basically called an idiot, which makes users compelled to start arguments. Also. Big majority of users here despise the endings. It really doesn't make sense for people to keep making threads about how much they hate it, when they can do so in the hate thread and feel satisfactory that they are not the only ones who hate it.

[Luigitornado]

Voods07 wrote...

Luigitornado wrote...

Voods07 wrote...

Oh look, its this thread again. I'm glad you supported your argument with facts and analysis rather than baseless opinion and emotion stomping.

Liking something doesn't always need to be supported with facts. He liked it, and you disliked it. It is done.

Anyway, it really put a new light on the series for me; i like it.

No, but his opinion is the epitome of cliché' in the BSN as of late: "Wah Wah, qq, you guys are wimps, get over it cry-babies!”

Not to mention he began every sentence with a lowercase letter.

And why would you care when the majority of your fellow peers hate the ending?

[aim1essgun]

And it begins. People who didn't mind the ending are now going to get their jollies off thinking of themselves as a persecuted minority.

[sonogi]

i was just trying to say that given all the negativity, i expected the ending to blow hard. and it really didn't. an epic series deserves an "out of this world" ending. it's all about breaking the cycle, one way or another. or not.

aim1essgun wrote...

And it begins. People who didn't mind
the ending are now going to get their jollies off thinking of themselves
as a persecuted minority.

i dont feel persecuted lol. these are forums, and people express opinions about the game. thats all there is to it!

Modifié par sonogi, 09 mars 2012 - 08:01 .

[Luigitornado]

aim1essgun wrote...

And it begins. People who didn't mind the ending are now going to get their jollies off thinking of themselves as a persecuted minority.

Isn't that always the case?

[AxisEvolve]

Luigitornado wrote...
It seems rational to me. 

If you have  a positive opinion about the endings, then enter that thread, you are basically called an idiot, which makes users compelled to start arguments. Also. Big majority of users here despise the endings. It really doesn't make sense for people to keep making threads about how much they hate it, when they can do so in the hate thread and feel satisfactory that they are not the only ones who hate it.

Take a look at the front page... There's just as much pro-ending threads as anti-ending ones. It's spam and a "my opinion must come first!" mentality. 

[ToJKa1]

I liked it too, but i definetly see why people don't. It suddenly and surprisingly went all philosophical after being all about lasers and explosions and saving the day

[aim1essgun]

sonogi wrote...

i was just trying to say that given all the negativity, i expected the ending to blow hard. and it really didn't. an epic series deserves an "out of this world" ending. it's all about breaking the cycle, one way or another. or not.

People have posted very thoughtful, in depth analyses of why the ending is horrible writing. 

And obviously the emotional reaction of most people is rage and dismay. 

So for most people, the ending did in fact blow hard. Regardless of what you thought of it, Bioware failed most of their customers. 

[aim1essgun]

ToJKa1 wrote...

I liked it too, but i definetly see why people don't. It suddenly and surprisingly went all philosophical after being all about lasers and explosions and saving the day

You call that philosophy? Maybe I'll do a detailed breakdown of the 'philosophy' in the ending (especially the ludicrous synthesis option) and explain how idiotic it is. 

Or maybe I won't, I shouldn't ruin anyone's enjoyment. 

Modifié par aim1essgun, 09 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[SovereignWillReturn]

Drake_Hound wrote...

You know people make up there own story , without really realising .. normandy is the key to mass relay ...
Since all other mass relays got destroyed .. every species in the universe is going to try to find normandy .
Or did people magically forget about that .

So basically post like these , totally forgot all the previous 2 games , where you learned about everything .
So basically you say you play ME3 complain about not making sense , when you totally forgot everything about 1st 2 ME .

So basically for you that ending fits , since you don´t have clue about lore .

Da Fuq? English?
And explain to me, how Normandy is the key to all Mass Relays.

[Faraborne]

aim1essgun wrote...

ToJKa1 wrote...

I liked it too, but i definetly see why people don't. It suddenly and surprisingly went all philosophical after being all about lasers and explosions and saving the day

You call that philosophy? Maybe I'll do a detailed breakdown of the 'philosophy' in the ending (especially the ludicrous synthesis option) and explain how idiotic it is. 

Or maybe I won't, I shouldn't ruin anyone's enjoyment. 

I'll join you.  As a philosopher I can say that the ending was nothing but illogical BS!  Hack philosophy dressed up all pretty to sound deep.

[Faraborne]

SovereignWillReturn wrote...

Drake_Hound wrote...

You know people make up there own story , without really realising .. normandy is the key to mass relay ...
Since all other mass relays got destroyed .. every species in the universe is going to try to find normandy .
Or did people magically forget about that .

So basically post like these , totally forgot all the previous 2 games , where you learned about everything .
So basically you say you play ME3 complain about not making sense , when you totally forgot everything about 1st 2 ME .

So basically for you that ending fits , since you don´t have clue about lore .

Da Fuq? English?
And explain to me, how Normandy is the key to all Mass Relays.

Ditto!  What the heck is this guy trying to say?  Makes about as much sense as the ending of Mass Effect

[sonogi]

there was no philosophy. you guys are looking too into it. the boy is just another, older alien. reapers are his tools. and why the hell wouldnt synthesis be possible? Illusive man was pretty much half reaper tech half human.

Modifié par sonogi, 09 mars 2012 - 08:19 .

[Taleroth]

Synthesis wouldn't be possible, because integrating synthetic structures into organics is a delicate process. You can't just magic beam them on there. Carbon does not spontaneously turn into functional copper based circuitry.

[Gruzmog]

Huh? The illusive man has nothing to do with the endings in the end or? He is just dead and then you meet the godling

[sonogi]

Taleroth wrote...

Synthesis wouldn't be possible, because integrating synthetic structures into organics is a delicate process. You can't just magic beam them on there. Carbon does not spontaneously turn into functional copper based circuitry.

sure, but the supremo intelligence boy knows how.

[pknecron]

I am glad that you liked the ending that you got, but where is the ending for those who don't like the ending we got? There should have been an ending for every possible outcome. No one would have cared about the control/destroy/assimilate endings if there had also been a Shep kicks reaper ass and lives with the galaxy intact ending. I feel that ending was needed because the whole series has been about beating the odds and winning despite all things looking hopeless. Having to pick a "lesser of two evils" ending just doesn't wash with me.

My Shep would have taken his Omni-tool and fried the childgod where he stood. If he was controlling them that means they are not sentient and without the MCP I would have thought they would have all gone dark.

Modifié par pknecron, 09 mars 2012 - 08:27 .

[AuraofMana]

For a series that has tried to explain a lot through logic (read through the codex in ME1 about how guns and ships work, for example) and has pretty much been about your choice, the ending did not display either of those. In fact there are a lot of glaring logic errors introduced in that last 5 minutes that ruined the continuity of the entire series.

For example:

1. If the Catalyst controlled the Reapers anyway what was the point of destroying the Conduit in ME1?

2. How is destroying all species with synthetic every 50,000 years a "good" solution to preventing synthetics from destroying organics?

3. How is Shepard not mad about the Catalyst?

4. How are organics "inferior" when the entire point of the Reapers were to preserve them (which the goal in itself made no sense as said above)?

5. How are the Reapers' purpose "unfathomable" when we understood it clearly?

6. If organics are chaos and Reapers order, why did the space magic god kid let us decide?

7. The space magic god kid just said his solutions didn't work, so why would he MAKE UP THE THREE CHOICES when he is shown to be fallible?

8. It's possible to show that organics and synthetics can get along on Rannoch yet the space magic god kid was not aware of that. What gives?

9. The space magic god kid didn't say the mass relays would be destroyed in two of the endings yet they are. BioWare just wants to reuse the same footage and got lazy at the end, which the entire ending and its "three choices" shows.

10. There are no closure on what happens at the end even despite all of this.

[Halo Quea]

ToJKa1 wrote...

I liked it too, but i definetly see why people don't. It suddenly and surprisingly went all philosophical after being all about lasers and explosions and saving the day

There's nothing philosophical about the Guardian or the Tech-Singularity.   

[Mandalore242]

I said this in another post, but at least they could of had a ending where the Reapers winning with a far future alien race finding a planet and ruins with Liara's Tim Capsule. Have them open a door with it on a table and activating with Shepard's Image and Liara telling the story.

Otherwise the Time Capsule scene was pointless.

I dont like the endings, but I can see one side of the tale with them. There needs to be more variation. Give people the sappy ending, give people the death and grim. Most of all at least give a explanation as to why and dialogue of after the decision.

Modifié par Mandalore242, 09 mars 2012 - 08:35 .

[Halo Quea]

sonogi wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Synthesis wouldn't be possible, because integrating synthetic structures into organics is a delicate process. You can't just magic beam them on there. Carbon does not spontaneously turn into functional copper based circuitry.

sure, but the supremo intelligence boy knows how.

he's got a magic wand

[SovereignWillReturn]

Halo Quea wrote...

sonogi wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Synthesis wouldn't be possible, because integrating synthetic structures into organics is a delicate process. You can't just magic beam them on there. Carbon does not spontaneously turn into functional copper based circuitry.

sure, but the supremo intelligence boy knows how.

he's got a magic wand

He went to Hogwarts.

[SonicAF]

You know, I have found what is wrong with endings. Are you ready? Everything is wrong with endings.

[Stanley Woo]

Please use the existing thread to discuss this topic. Thank you.

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