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#26
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"Achieving that reward "



so you don't get it?



so what? that doesn't mean you are forced to do anything. You are CHOOSING pursue the reward.

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Kolaris8472 wrote...

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Pay for the game and maybe you would have the right to complain a bit.


Where is this pretentious anti-piracy attitude stemming from? Do you have some sort of 6th sense allowing you to tell who did or did not purchase the game, or are you (more likely) just labelling anyone who did not enjoy the game as much as you did a pirate?


It comes from the fact that this guy always posts spoilers in the main board and refuses to register his game, then when asked to says he 'lost hes code in the car before he got home'  .....meaning he could nevr have installed the game to begin with.

So, I am labeling him a pirate based on his own stupid story.

Thanks for your concern.

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Jensonagain wrote...

This game forces mages up your ass....  If you want to play without a mage you can't. 

RPG's have always been about what kind of companions you want.   But this game forces mages into your party a lot.

I'm getting tired of this ****.   I've been playing rpgs for years and I ALWAYS ALWAYS have a pure melee/archer group. I NEVER have mages in my group.

THe nerve of these devs forcing mages into your group and forcing you to change your playstyle.


Sure you can. I do it all the time. Just finished the Deep Roads with Me (Archer/Ranger), Shale, Oghren, and Dog (plus summoned pet). Maybe there are some fights where one must have a mage, but I'm on my third playthrough and haven't come across one. There are fights where having a mage are much EASIER, but that's a different thing.  Of course some story parts a mage is a required party member, but beyond that, you're free to choose.

Modifié par DJoker35, 26 novembre 2009 - 09:27 .


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DJoker35 wrote...

Sure you can. I do it all the time. Just finished the Deep Roads with Me (Archer/Ranger), Shale, Oghren, and Dog (plus summoned pet). Maybe there are some fights where one must have a mage, but I'm on my third playthrough and haven't come across one. There are fights where having a mage are much EASIER, but that's a different thing.  Of course some story parts a mage is a required party member, but beyond that, you're free to choose.


Agreed there are no fights where you need a mage, never. 3th playthru without a mage. Was no problem.
Setup: S&B Warrior (me), Allistar (2H! wanted to try something different with him)
Oghren (you have to love the dwarf) Lil (because of lockpick and she is my sweetie)

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Jensonagain wrote...

This game forces mages up your ass....  If you want to play without a mage you can't. 

RPG's have always been about what kind of companions you want.   But this game forces mages into your party a lot.

I'm
getting tired of this ****.   I've been playing rpgs for years
and I ALWAYS ALWAYS have a pure melee/archer group. I NEVER have mages
in my group.

THe nerve of these devs forcing mages into your group and forcing you to change your playstyle.






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Modifié par VanDraegon, 26 novembre 2009 - 09:33 .


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I agree that it can be difficuly without any mages, yes. I am currently playing it on Nightmare with x2 Warriors, x2 Rogues. Difficult but not impossible.

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He does have a point, having a Mage makes the game so much easier. I carry 2 currently and I slice the game like a hot knife through butter.

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I don't like this crap either, so I just refuse to do it. Granted, I play on Easy setting, but I had no trouble finishing the game with my Archer/Ranger/Duelist, Alistair/Loghain, Zevran, and Oghren the whole way through. This time I'm with my 2-Handed Warrior, Alistair, Zevran, and Dog. Just gotta make sure you have potions is all.

Modifié par Tielis, 26 novembre 2009 - 10:09 .


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Jensonagain wrote...

This game forces mages up your ass....  If you want to play without a mage you can't. 

RPG's have always been about what kind of companions you want.   But this game forces mages into your party a lot.

I'm getting tired of this ****.   I've been playing rpgs for years and I ALWAYS ALWAYS have a pure melee/archer group. I NEVER have mages in my group.

THe nerve of these devs forcing mages into your group and forcing you to change your playstyle.


Grow pubes Posted Image.

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I wouldn't mind if there were good henchman mages.



Choice of either a psychotic female dog or an annoying preaching granny.



Gaider is a troll.

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This game also forces warriors up your posterior by the same logic.

Oh and if you want the goodies in various chests it "forces" rogues up there too...c

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Jensonagain wrote...

This game forces mages up your ass....  If you want to play without a mage you can't. 

RPG's have always been about what kind of companions you want.   But this game forces mages into your party a lot.

I'm getting tired of this ****.   I've been playing rpgs for years and I ALWAYS ALWAYS have a pure melee/archer group. I NEVER have mages in my group.

THe nerve of these devs forcing mages into your group and forcing you to change your playstyle.


You RPG without a healer? 

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Melheyon wrote...

This game also forces warriors up your posterior by the same logic.
Oh and if you want the goodies in various chests it "forces" rogues up there too...c


Good point. Posted Image

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Jensonagain wrote...

The problem is I need a healer for redcliffe in order to save all the militia folk.  Achieving that reward is IMPOSSIBLe without a healer.

Optional content is optional.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Kolaris8472 wrote...

Do you have some sort of 6th sense allowing you to tell who did or did not purchase the game

You don't need a sixth sense.  Your registered games are listed in your profile.


Oddly, mine aren't.  

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Jensonagain wrote...

hOnOr wrote...

When are you required to have a mage? I can't think of any time they force it on you.


First they force a mage on you at the tower of ishal.

Then they force morrigan into your party at the bandit encounter.

Then they force wynne into your party at circle magi tower.

........ It's so ****ing dumb, it's like the game is telling me "you're **** without a mage".


Um, your raging because you get 2 npcs henchmen for one mission? (or just the mage if your human noble and have the dog)
What bandit encounter 'forces' morrigan? and you can tell her to leave.
Wynne, you get her to open the tower...(big deal)

Are you raging that you get mage henchmen at all? Cause you could...you know, IGNORE them and leave them in the party camp.

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I don't have Morrigan in my group. I do have 2 mages though but I also love mages. My character is a mage and I also have Wynne as a primary healer. I think it would be really hard to play this game with no mage but with enough potions you could do it. That's not my play style since I love using magic in these games but I can see it being doable. The cool down on healing pots is very quick and drinking one level potion doesn't have any effect on the cool down on the other levels. So you can drink the different level pots in order one right after the other to get a huge heal. You can even program that into their tactics. Mages just make it easier as far as healing goes and obviously they have the huge AoE spells that can take down multiple enemies in seconds.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Jensonagain wrote...

The problem is I need a healer for redcliffe in order to save all the militia folk.  Achieving that reward is IMPOSSIBLe without a healer.

Optional content is optional.


Redcliffe is an optional zone?  What kind of pirated copy did you buy?

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Sylixe wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Jensonagain wrote...
 Achieving that reward

Optional content is optional.


Redcliffe is an optional zone?  What kind of pirated copy did you buy?


Enchantment!

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andyr1986 wrote...

Try and play Baldur's Gate 2/Planescape/Icewind Dale 2 etc without a mage or cleric. See how you get along with it.


Baldurs Gate 2 is quite soloable with a Fighter or Rogue actually.

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The only kind of character that is forced upon you is a rogue due to locked chests. You can complete the game just fine without mages.

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Marionetten wrote...

The only kind of character that is forced upon you is a rogue due to locked chests. You can complete the game just fine without mages.


Errr...no? A mage to deal AoE damage for the big fights, as well as to bring healing and crowd-control is far more "forced up yer arse" than a Rogue to pick locks for lackluster trash loot...

Problem is they made Mages too universal. For one thing, they shouldn't have made 'em the healers as well as damage-dealers and crowd-controllers. A Mage plain and simple a complete package of abilities, while a Rogue or Warrior just seem gimps in comparison.

Modifié par Ulrik the Slayer, 27 novembre 2009 - 07:50 .


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I think it's time for me to go play a full warrior/rogue team just to shut these kinds of threads up (though it won't actually do anything). Ah well, should be fun.

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Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

Baldurs Gate 2 is quite soloable with a Fighter or Rogue actually.

How does a Fighter solo against enemies that timestop and then blast you to bits? Or the red dragon?

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Ulrik the Slayer wrote...

Marionetten wrote...

The only kind of character that is forced upon you is a rogue due to locked chests. You can complete the game just fine without mages.


Errr...no? A mage to deal AoE damage for the big fights, as well as to bring healing and crowd-control is far more "forced up yer arse" than a Rogue to pick locks for lackluster trash loot...

Problem is they made Mages too universal. For one thing, they shouldn't have made 'em the healers as well as damage-dealers and crowd-controllers. A Mage plain and simple a complete package of abilities, while a Rogue or Warrior just seem gimps in comparison.


Um, I never worried about crowd control or heavy AoE ever during my first playthrough. Infact I never worried about who tanks or who DPS. Honestly I might play mage once simply to get the achievement, Rogues and Warriors hold far more interest and fun for me. Remember fellows, not everybody here comes from the competitive PvP in Neverwinter Nights and other games and worries about Min-Maxing and planning every level and encounter days in advance. Some play the game for FUN, weird concept no?

*We face a mob, Leliana starts shooting her bow, Wynne does her thing as Alistair and I charge. Somebody charges Leliana? I take them out if needed.*

Modifié par DaeFaron, 27 novembre 2009 - 07:54 .