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[Archereon]

^ That's Reaper FTL, which is three times faster than anyone else's. Plus, if the gap between stars is too large or there's no convenient places to discharge the core...Too bad.

IMHO, EA probably told BioWare to make the endings suck so they could make a DLC that pretty much everyone would buy. (though TBH I think it might end up being the most pirated DLC ever.)

[CrazyCatDude]

zenoxis wrote...

AxisEvolve wrote...

Rhayth wrote...

I like all these people that say FTL still exist.

The destroy ending leaves Reapers, Geth, Mass Relays, and EDI all destroyed...so how do you figure FTL was left unharmed?

There are hints that FTL is possible even without the Mass Relays. It's not just people speculating. It's implied in game.

it doesn't matter. FTL takes decades even centuries to get anywhere significant. How do people not get this?

A Mass Effect FTL drive does roughly .5 light years per hour.  Crunching the numbers, that means, roughly 34 1/4 years to cross from one edge of the galaxy to the other.  That goes up because you have to stop and discharge your drive, but still.

Kinda sucks that after working so hard for it, the Quarians won't see their homeworld again for nearly a third of a century.

[AscalonD]

I got one question never asked/answered, the young boy and old man.... the young kid says "tell me ANOTHER story about Commander Shepard" Soooo spinoff anyone? Also, shepard has been brought back to life after being brain dead, and vaporized by entering orbit before...

[Balek-Vriege]

Taleroth wrote...

zenoxis wrote...


it doesn't matter. FTL takes decades even centuries to get anywhere significant. How do people not get this?

Alliance FTL is something like 4,000x the speed of light. They could cross the entire galaxy in 23 years. Reaching Asari space should take only a handful. Now years is a long time to spend stuck on a ship, but not decades or centures.

Also in the Reaper codex it says they move x2 or x3 faster than our ships in FTL, traveling about 30 lightyears in 24 hours.  Also for people arguing that FTL doesn't exist in post destroy, it does.  What destroy does is wipe out all AI, including the Reapers, EDI and the Geth, and the relays (like the other endings).  VIs etc. are possibly left and all other types of technology are untouched.  Also there's nothing stopping anyone from just rebuilding VIs/AIs later on in the destroy problem (which is the drawback of the ending).

[CommanderSmacker]

Archereon wrote...

^ That's Reaper FTL, which is three times faster than anyone else's. Plus, if the gap between stars is too large or there's no convenient places to discharge the core...Too bad.

IMHO, EA probably told BioWare to make the endings suck so they could make a DLC that pretty much everyone would buy. (though TBH I think it might end up being the most pirated DLC ever.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           I believe you're right

[Sireniankyle1]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

I like how you guys blame EA for all the problems.

First, ME2 and Dragon Age: Origins were made under the rule of EA and those were both great games.

Second, all of you admit that ME3 was fantastic till the 'Oh my god, I didn't see MY SUPER PERSONAL DEMANDING ENDING' moment at the very end.

When I read all of your comments, I envision myself as Javik frowning down at these fecal matter slinging beings.

You say this because you got what you wanted. You should leave.

[corx3]

The game as a whole was fantastic. The endings didn't leave that much of a bitter taste in my mouth. That's because I have adult level emotional stability. I suspect the opposite of many forum members here.

[zenoxis]

corx3 wrote...

The game as a whole was fantastic. The endings didn't leave that much of a bitter taste in my mouth. That's because I have adult level emotional stability. I suspect the opposite of many forum members here.

Pretentious assumption of a pretentious nature that assumes you are the only person that exists that is intelligent because people don't agree with your judgement. You're entitled to your own opinion, feel free to defend it even. Don't insult other people just because they have their own.

Modifié par zenoxis, 09 mars 2012 - 11:21 .

[Golferguy758]

Some people liked the endings. Most did not.

There was no reason why both groups could not have the endings they wanted in this game.

[Cosmar]

They can continue the franchise by setting future games in the past, before Shepard's story. Doesn't mean I'll like it, play it or buy it.

[zenoxis]

Arcian wrote...

zenoxis wrote...

Refer to previous post to understand why "Dean" has no idea what he's talking about in terms of canon.

I read your post, and it's obvious that Dean's grasp on the lore is much stronger than yours.

I see you presented a clear argument supplemented with a well thought out structure backed up with evidence. Hah oh wait no you didn't.

[Goose1004]

[inappropriate post removed]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 10 mars 2012 - 12:14 .

[TheJokerAU]

As much as I hate to say this....Lets hope it was all a bad dream and we will get a proper ending in DLC....

[Seanabhainn]

zenoxis wrote...

corx3 wrote...

The game as a whole was fantastic. The endings didn't leave that much of a bitter taste in my mouth. That's because I have adult level emotional stability. I suspect the opposite of many forum members here.

Pretentious assumption of a pretentious nature that assumes you are the only person that exists that is intelligent because people don't agree with your judgement. You're entitled to your own opinion, feel free to defend it even. Don't insult other people just because they have their own.

^  This.  Zenoxis said it well.  I've seen too much bashing on disappointed fans.  We have a right to be disappointed.  BioWare has the ability to fix this, but whether or not they will is a matter still in heated debate.  I have my doubt, but I have my hope.  Making a dig at others' "emotional stability" simply suggests you have no "common courtesy" or "social maturity."  Don't like the complaining?  Consider that you might be in the wrong section of the forum.  You liked it?  You're free to do so.  We didn't?  Same answer.

Modifié par Seanabhainn, 09 mars 2012 - 11:30 .

[retailavenger85]

zenoxis wrote...

corx3 wrote...

The game as a whole was fantastic. The endings didn't leave that much of a bitter taste in my mouth. That's because I have adult level emotional stability. I suspect the opposite of many forum members here.

Pretentious assumption of a pretentious nature that assumes you are the only person that exists that is intelligent because people don't agree with your judgement. You're entitled to your own opinion, feel free to defend it even. Don't insult other people just because they have their own.

Seriously. There is no reason for infighting/trolling. This is obviously a thread of people who are upset with how the game ended, there is no need to come in here and insult people. While I respect your opinion of the game's ending, I personally felt extremely dissastified. That does not mean that I am an immature person.

[Srefanius]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

zenoxis wrote...

What future???

The post-Reaper, post-Relay future where organic and/or synthetics live, obviously.

A series about the re-connection of the galaxy would fit well.

The relays are gone,

Can be rebuilt.

everyone is stranded,

FTL still exists.

Joker and the crew are not fighting for Earth for some reason.

That one is odd.

Everything is ruined.

And ready to be rebuilt.

How can he even talk about the future??

How can there be a future after any cataclysmic event?

By the survivors regrouping, rebuilding, and recovering.

Another point to it is that there are many people and races in the sol system now and also the knowledge of science ect. don't need to be gone. They just invent or find something with their ressources and there is your future, not well written but likely possible...

[Phydeaux314]

As I mentioned in another thread, they'd be better served by working on a relay and praying that people on other homeworlds managed to build some to connect to. FTL travel otherwise probably wouldn't work.

[GuardianofSouls]

I gave them a chance to explain the magic Prothean out of nowhere crap, and it was even worse than I feared.

[Arokel]

Doesn't the relay network require the citadel to work?

Or am I just pulling that out of my arse?

Modifié par Arokel, 09 mars 2012 - 11:55 .

[zenoxis]

To everyone saying that the mass relays can be rebuilt, you don't seem to get that the mass relay was part of a network. Without a receiving relay, they may as well be stuck even if they rebuild the one in the sol system. Now considering everyone is still trying to recover from the war and other planets isolated from humanitarian aid can't rebuild their own mass relays and won't even know the rest of the galaxy is trying to rebuild the network to do it.

Not to mention they don't even have the slightest understanding of how the mass relays work and can't study it because every ending has the mass relays being destroyed. BTW to everyone saying look at the conduit, that's a prothean construction, no race in this cycle knows how it works, not to mention not everyone even knows it exists and how can they even study the conduit if it's all the way on Ilos and the vast majority of the galaxy's population is now stuck on Sol?

Modifié par zenoxis, 09 mars 2012 - 11:48 .

[FoxShadowblade]

Arokel wrote...

Doesn't the relay network require the citadel to work?

Or am I just pulling that out of arse.

If you are just pulling the Citadel out of your arse, I feel bad for it.

Immature joking aside.

'Excited where the franchise is going'?

Me too, why? BECAUSE IT'S GOING NOWHERE. Crappy endings have made crappy fans. Don't go somewhere with the franchise...FIX IT.

All that aside, good luck rebuilding relays, rebuilding the relay network, rebuilding Earth, the now scorched planet. Good luck finding the Normandy that has the supernatural dodge ability from hell(while Ashley and Garrus can apparently teleport).

No offense to anyone, or to BioWare, but I think they are trying to pull something out of their hats to save this...thing they created. The very worst scenario is that they actually try to defend and enforce the endings we have now.

And I'm sorry, I know some people like the endings, but these endings have now topped Matrix on my list of "How not to end a series I love".

Modifié par FoxShadowblade, 09 mars 2012 - 11:52 .

[zenoxis]

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Doesn't the relay network require the citadel to work?

Or am I just pulling that out of arse.

If you are just pulling the Citadel out of your arse, I feel bad for it.

Immature joking aside.

'Excited where the franchise is going'?

Me too, why? BECAUSE IT'S GOING NOWHERE. Crappy endings have made crappy fans. Don't go somewhere with the franchise...FIX IT.

All that aside, good luck rebuilding relays, rebuilding the relay network, rebuilding Earth, the now scorched planet. Good luck finding the Normandy that has the supernatural dodge ability from hell(while Ashley and Garrus can apparently teleport).

No offense to anyone, or to BioWare, but I think they are trying to pull something out of their hats to save this...thing they created. The very worst scenario is that they actually try to defend and enforce the endings we have now.

And I'm sorry, I know some people like the endings, but these endings have now topped Matrix on my list of "How not to end a series I love".

I actually think it's hilarious how people who like the endings coyly dodge the fact that the normandy and your squad aren't on earth fighting with you. Not to mention that the endings are not impacted by any decision making from the last 2 games and indeed ME3.

I'd more than welcome them defending their own opinion, but I haven't seen a single person in favor of the current endings do it adequately.

Modifié par zenoxis, 09 mars 2012 - 11:57 .

[FoxShadowblade]

zenoxis wrote...

FoxShadowblade wrote...

Arokel wrote...

Doesn't the relay network require the citadel to work?

Or am I just pulling that out of arse.

If you are just pulling the Citadel out of your arse, I feel bad for it.

Immature joking aside.

'Excited where the franchise is going'?

Me too, why? BECAUSE IT'S GOING NOWHERE. Crappy endings have made crappy fans. Don't go somewhere with the franchise...FIX IT.

All that aside, good luck rebuilding relays, rebuilding the relay network, rebuilding Earth, the now scorched planet. Good luck finding the Normandy that has the supernatural dodge ability from hell(while Ashley and Garrus can apparently teleport).

No offense to anyone, or to BioWare, but I think they are trying to pull something out of their hats to save this...thing they created. The very worst scenario is that they actually try to defend and enforce the endings we have now.

And I'm sorry, I know some people like the endings, but these endings have now topped Matrix on my list of "How not to end a series I love".

I actually think it's hilarious how people who like the endings coyly dodge the fact that the normandy and your squad aren't on earth fighting with you. Not to mention that the endings are not impacted by any decision making from the last 2 games and indeed ME3.

I'd more than welcome them defending their own opinion, but I haven't seen a single person in favor of the current endings do it adequately.

I think the most valid reason for defending the endings I've seen yet is the one my friend gave me: He liked that they made me die inside.

Seriously, that's the best I've seen out of anything.

[TheQuadLazer]

The normandy not being near earth was just supid. We get no explanation as to why the normandy was so far away from earth. Also would it kill the writers to write an epilogue so we can get some closure and not have these vague endings (since you took the meaning of our choices away and gave us three generic endings you might as well tell us what happened to the galaxy after our decision).

[Phydeaux314]

Thing is... this is Mass EFfect. If I had wanted a Dragon Age-esque "you're screwed over no matter what you do" ending, I would have played that. Or Halo ODST, where it's a foregone conclusion that everyone dies in the end.

But ME has traditionally had the option of earning your happy ending, and that's irritatingly missing here. We put a lot of love into our characters and this world, and the ending that we got for them doesn't feel like it does that justice.

Sometimes it's okay to have a "little blue children" ending. Really, it is.