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[Reiella]

Nobrandminda wrote...

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

None of them.

There isn't really a paragon or a renegade ending.  There is one good ending (control), one magic will fix everything ending (synthesis), and one "omfg, you really picked that?  What are you stupid?" ending (destroy).  

That's my opinion anyway.  I think that with the way the choices are presented, Synthesis seems like the "true" ending.  Think about it.  When the Catalyst gives you the option to destroy the Reapers (and EDI, which is why I call it the Idiot ending) it shows a clip of Anderson doing so.  When it gives you the option to control the reapers, it shows you a clip of the Illusive Man doing so.  But no such clip happens for the Sythesis option which implys that that is Shepard's choice and not the choice of another, lesser person.  That's just my interpretation anyway.  Yes it's ironic that the Illusive Man is demonstrating the merciful ending, but they themselves point that out, so I wouldn't read too much into it like some people are doing.  (Look around, you'll find someone who says that they don't want to use the Control ending because it's the Illusive man's choice)

I don't really think destroy is LOL-What Ending, that would be the Jade Empire surrender to Sun Li ending .

I can easily see the destroy ending as being the 'best of bad choices' one if one has the view that subjugation is worse than destruction, with really only the destruction of the innocent geth and EDI being a casualty.

Still, they're all hard decisions.

[Warp92]

Xellith wrote...

even though you just killed EDI and wiped out the Geth.. yea.. totally awesome? such fked endings I cant even...

Yeah... only reason I chose to destroy reapers + synthetic life is because you get to see your shep alive at the end ( w/ high enough ems )

[Russmandarin]

I'm pretty sure you spent the entire game as a paragon staunchly against TIM ideas about controlling the reapers. You always wanted to beat them no matter what. Being given the option of killing all synthetic life to do that is not what I would call a renegade decision.
Its like controlling the reapers is just shunting the problem off to the side not getting rid of it. That's renegade to the max.

[Cyaxares]

Russmandarin wrote...

I'm pretty sure you spent the entire game as a paragon staunchly against TIM ideas about controlling the reapers. You always wanted to beat them no matter what. Being given the option of killing all synthetic life to do that is not what I would call a renegade decision.
Its like controlling the reapers is just shunting the problem off to the side not getting rid of it. That's renegade to the max.

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Disagree, to commit genocide( against the geth allies),to kill a crew member, so that he can kill the enemy no matter what, is Renegade to the max, in my opinion.
Controling the reapers means self-sacrifice for Shepard, he takes harder, more risky path, to avoid killing anyone. This is Paragon option in my opinion.

[Serp86]

A true Paragorn Sheppard would've interrupted that little Catalyst brat and dropped an epic speech on his ignorant little ass . So he doesn't have to chose from the non-sense that is presented to him as an option.

[bluewolv1970]

Control - paragon
Destroy - Renegade
Merge- complete evil shepard

[GuiltySource]

sbarchak wrote...

Russmandarin wrote...

I'm pretty sure you spent the entire game as a paragon staunchly against TIM ideas about controlling the reapers. You always wanted to beat them no matter what. Being given the option of killing all synthetic life to do that is not what I would call a renegade decision.
Its like controlling the reapers is just shunting the problem off to the side not getting rid of it. That's renegade to the max.

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Disagree, to commit genocide( against the geth allies),to kill a crew member, so that he can kill the enemy no matter what, is Renegade to the max, in my opinion.
Controling the reapers means self-sacrifice for Shepard, he takes harder, more risky path, to avoid killing anyone. This is Paragon option in my opinion.

It was said all throught the game the Reapers are too powerful to be controlled. Sheps last words to TIM were "You're messing with power you do not understand." Destroying the Reapers is the only sure fire way of ending the cycle.

[GraciousCat]

I went with destroy, it was the only viable choice in my opinion. You spend the whole trilogy working up to destroying the Reapers, any other choice doesn't make sense in my opinion.
The only thing that I regret about that ending is that the Geth and EDI had to go with the Reapers. That part sucked, but it was a necessary sacrifice in my opinion. The other two endings leave the Reapers intact, who's to say they won't come back eventually?

[Unender]

I picked destroy just cause there is a chance he survives and the reapers go boom. but in my headcannon it's all some sort of illusion anyway, so it really doesn't matter.

[SolidnOld]

I'm a paragon but I picked destroy. I did not like that Edi and the Geth (especially after I formed peace with them and Quarians) had to die, but I did not feel right making a deal with the devil. (reapers). I wanted the Reapers destroyed.

[SandTrout]

Serp86 wrote...

A true Paragorn Sheppard would've interrupted that little Catalyst brat and dropped an epic speech on his ignorant little ass . So he doesn't have to chose from the non-sense that is presented to him as an option.

Any true Shepard would have done this, with the Renegade going full "F-U!" and ordering Hacket to destroy the citadel and the Catalyst with it.

[Adsinjapan]

My Shepherd is a Paragon, but he's also a survivor too. He made a lot of promises to a lot of people, he wants his fallen commrades lives to have meant something, and he has a lady waiting for him out there, possibly pregnant with his blue baby.

He'd pick the option where the Reapers turn against each other, he'd then punt that little s**t of a Cosmic Child into the nearest turbine and walk away slowly from an explosion behind him like a Boss.

In other words, none of the choices were acceptable to me.

[jspiess]

Regardless of ideology, the right thing to do is destroy the Reapers. Otherwise the creepy godchild and his pet death machines win.

[GraciousCat]

SwordEmperor wrote...

My canon Shepard is Paragon so personally, I would choose none of them. If the game allowed, I would have called out on the Catalyst's poor reasoning on "created will always fight the creators" since EDI is our friend and ally and I was able to broker peace between the Geth and Quarians and they're willing to coexist peacefully and fighting the Reapers together for the right to live. If possible, maybe we could have convinced the Catalyst that it was wrong and it would call off the Reapers somehow.

If Shepard was able (with enough Paragon or Renegade persuasion or other requirements) to talk Saren and the Illusive Man to commit suicide, and get the Geth and Quarians to work together then it should have been an option since Bioware is famous for using an option that is not part of what's given initially.

I agree with this post. 
Despite choosing "Destroy", I would have preferred something like this. 

[The Angry One]

Both Paragon and Renegade Shep would, in different ways, point to the Geth and EDI and tell the Catalyst that it's wrong, it's logic is broken and to stand down as it's obsolete.

If it refuses to, then it's time to take the 4th option.

[cactusberry]

There is no Paragon choice. There is no Renegade choice. All three have a different big thing which makes them suck.

[Cartims]

I like the forth option.

[Furluge]

Closest your going to get to a paragon ending is the Synthesis ending.

First off, it's the only one of the three you actually see anyone (Edi and Joker) remotely happy. Compare that to the stunned walk-outs you get with destroy or control.

Second, it's the only option which you flat out can't do period without enough military strength going into the final push. There is no "bad" synthesis ending while there are bad variations of the other two endings.

Third, the leaked script back from November basically says it is.

ACTION:

Shepard must now make his final decision - to control the Reapers, to destroy the Reapers, or if they had a perfect game to become one with the Reapers.

[Lyrandori]

I picked Control since at that point I had not considered that it might be: 1) A nightmare nor 2) That Shepard is being indoctrinated into believing that Control is the right choice to make. I know that in the end it doesn't really matter anyway. But if I really had to play again for some reasons I'd pick Destroy that time around, only because I know that with enough war assets and so on that there's that part where Shepard seems to have survived and is trying to breath.

I originally picked Control because I simply went for the "heroic sacrifice" ideology, cliché, but I didn't really understood what was going on anyway so out of confusion I just told myself "whatever" and started limping my way left towards those hand controls. As for synthesis... the very idea makes me sick, I wouldn't even pick it up with a Renegade, instead I'd pick up Control as a Renegade...

But, yeah, all of that doesn't really matter anyhow.

[x0 Misfit 0x]

None, in my opinion. My canon Shepard is a Paragon, and she would rather have bled out, know that basically any choice she chose would doom the Galaxy due to the Mass Relays destruction. Also, I don't think she would have approved of the Synthesis, she would have said that us being Organic, prone to mistakes, is what gives us hope, and what makes us incredible. That said, I remember her saying something along the lines of "You can't take away our hope, it's all we have." Though, now that I think about it, that might have been Doctor Who..

Modifié par x0 Misfit 0x, 11 mars 2012 - 03:54 .

[ArcanistLibram]

Paragon Shepard would probably go with Control. Destroy means a genocide of the geth and in the Synthesis ending, the Reapers win. The process is different, but they still get what they want.

[FearTheLiving]

I don't see any of them as a Paragon choice. I'd say Destroy, but uniting the Geth with the Quarians only to destroy them is wrong. Control would put one man in charge of too much power and Parashep wouldn't be apart of it. Synthesis would force humans and non humans to be mixed again not really a Parashep.

Not to mention the ending sucks anyways so doesn't really matter. That's just my opinion though.

[JasonDaPsycho]

Yep. My Alexis Shepard picked the synthesis ending as well. Paragon tend to be more open minded and accepting towards AI.

[Stalker]

I think the synthesis is the standard Paragon-Ending. "..and everyone lived happily together"

Modifié par Mr Massakka, 11 mars 2012 - 04:00 .