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[MR-9]

I even downloaded a mod to make it instant and it still continues to be useless. She can't stand up to anything or do any real damage at any point ever when compared to any of the others in my party.

Shapeshifters should be made out of Warriors (think Shale), not mages.

[Corvus Black]

i totally agree. the only thing good about it is the con and armor bonus.

[Dragon Age1103]

A few ppl have posted claiming the same thing, I honestly don't know never took that tree. I do know summon with the archer specialization is awesome! I'm lv10 with just the first tier of teh tree & that wolf has so much health & is great & distracting ppl for my mage & archer.

[emontyj]

i knew that magic stat effects shapeshifter attributes, so by the time i got morrigan over 80 magic i tried bearskarn form... but the armor was less than a rogue in light leather, and the defence was less than mage with rockskin. I'm confused; maybe they configured shapeshifting for easy difficulty.

[The Demonologist]

I downloaded mods for it, they make it nice and strong. I reccomend Val's Shapeshifting or the Learned Shapeshifting Forms mods.



It's a nice class to mod, and eh on its own.

[Wintermist]

I have not tried this, but what happens if you add to strength and dexterity instead of magic? Will it enhance the animal forms?

[MR-9]

There's no reason that I see to even play one unless you mod the game and as soon as you need a spirit healer to really get the game started they cram a useless shapeshifter into your party and send you on your way to Lothering. A Warrior can fill any role she changes into easily and the points you waste on Shapeshifting are dead weight, making the character useless because none of those shapes will ever help you during combat and they don't have enough spells to hold their own against your other mage or god forbid your main character if you rolled a mage.

[Katrar]

I totally agree. Shapeshifting does nothing but rob you of a useful party member. Easily the worst specialization. Which is ironic because in the BG's shapeshifting druids were actually pretty decent.

[MR-9]

Shapeshifting druids were excellent.



Bioware, if you take one lesson from 2009 it should be that you desperately need to stop trying to make shapeshifters out of Mages.

[Aristorum]

Personally, I like the shapeshifter specialization. Swarm is pretty useful when you're surrounded.

[Realmjumper]

I don't find it useless, It's ok and locusts is pretty good. The bear is a light tank. The spider is ok if you got nothing else. I have not tried the final form.

By the way I found a nice combo. If Im not mistaken when you're a locusts you are immune to aoe damage. Can't be that!

Modifié par Realmjumper, 26 novembre 2009 - 09:44 .

[Anarchosyn]

At low levels I used it to great effect. Morrigan's spider form, if entered for only a brief moment and done tactically, is good for snaring enemies or introducing a damage over time effect.



It's probably a waste for the player to ever put points into it but, especially with those mods The Demonologist brought up, it could be useful at select moments.

[MR-9]

Realmjumper wrote...

I don't find it useless, It's ok and locusts is pretty good. The bear is a light tank. The spider is ok if you got nothing else. I have not tried the final form.

By the way I found a nice combo. If Im not mistaken when you're a locusts you are immune to aoe damage. Can't be that!

Yes I read the tooltips too, but think about cone of cold, winter's grasp, grease, glyph of repulsion, why give up all of this to have someone utterly destroy you because your wanted to be a bear long enough to get your party killed because you can't heal them? No matter what you turn into, if they aggro on you, they're going to turn you inside out. You will be killed by things that you could have beaten had you been a mage with access to spells that you now don't have because you put four points into a chain to be a slow bear with half the HP of a real tank?

[Wintermist]

I tried this now, adding strength does add to the damage and all for the shapeshifting. Adding Magic doesn't. Adding more Magic didn't seem to do anything for shapeshifting itself, but the normal stats would. So it could be a useful specialization if you forfeited your other magical abilites which in a way makes you another warrior with some flexibility to do other things.

[MR-9]

Wintermist wrote...

I tried this now, adding strength does add to the damage and all for the shapeshifting. Adding Magic doesn't. Adding more Magic didn't seem to do anything for shapeshifting itself, but the normal stats would. So it could be a useful specialization if you forfeited your other magical abilites which in a way makes you another warrior with some flexibility to do other things.

You mean like an Arcane Warrior?

[Wintermist]

MR-9 wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

I tried this now, adding strength does add to the damage and all for the shapeshifting. Adding Magic doesn't. Adding more Magic didn't seem to do anything for shapeshifting itself, but the normal stats would. So it could be a useful specialization if you forfeited your other magical abilites which in a way makes you another warrior with some flexibility to do other things.

You mean like an Arcane Warrior?

Yeah, pretty much the same deal.

[MR-9]

I think they're trying to pass Morrigan off as a Druid.

[LadyRae9]

I think that they included shapeshifter because people enjoy playing it so much.

[Leetabix]

It would be better if there was more mages to pick from but as it is you need crowed control so sacrificeing morrigan to be a hybrid shapeshifter is basicly adding difficulty to yourself.

[maladictor2009]

where is my dragon shapeshift ???

[Wintermist]

maladictor2009 wrote...

where is my dragon shapeshift ???

In Neverwinter Nights.

[maladictor2009]

MR-9 wrote...

I think they're trying to pass Morrigan off as a Druid.

Druids heal, morrigan is just annoying.

[maladictor2009]

Wintermist wrote...

maladictor2009 wrote...

where is my dragon shapeshift ???

In Neverwinter Nights.

where is my dragon shapeshift in Dragon Age

[MR-9]

maladictor2009 wrote...

MR-9 wrote...

I think they're trying to pass Morrigan off as a Druid.

Druids heal, morrigan is just annoying.

True that.

[F-C]

MR-9 wrote...

Wintermist wrote...

I tried this now, adding strength does add to the damage and all for the shapeshifting. Adding Magic doesn't. Adding more Magic didn't seem to do anything for shapeshifting itself, but the normal stats would. So it could be a useful specialization if you forfeited your other magical abilites which in a way makes you another warrior with some flexibility to do other things.

You mean like an Arcane Warrior?

the main problem with it compared to arcane warrior is with AW you dont need to pump up normal melee stats. you can just pump magic for damage and use debuffs like miasma to increase your chance to hit.