I've been a lurker since the early double digits, made a short post awhile back commending the thread, but now that we're up to 1000 pages, I just wanted to add something that hasn't been touched on yet (from what I've seen, anyways. Been following as diligently as possible, but it's still likely I've missed alot.)
Basically, the whole experience in the geth server got me thinking alot about the motivations of the reapers. We already knew that the reapers were able to control/influence the geth by uploading reaper code into the consensus (and even if you rewrote the heretics the geth submitted to this willingly in a desperate, though misguided, attempt to survive the quarian attack). However, it's only when Shepard is uploaded into the consensus that we see firsthand how the reaper code works - by infecting/corrupting various 'memories', specifically ones that highlight geth/organic cooperation. I feel that this essentially limited the geth's ability to perceive peace/cooperation as a viable solution and instead favour offensive attack as the option most likely to result in their survival. Once the infected code is removed, the geth prime platoon chooses to side with Shepard against the reapers. In other words, when they're able to reassess the situation with all their "memories" intact, cooperation with organics is seen as the best means to ensure both their survival and continued evolution.
This makes me strongly feel that the organics vs. synthetics conflict has been purposefully emphasized by the reapers so as to keep the two from cooperating. Much of the conflict within the galaxy has been instigated by the reapers in some way - the rachni wars and the subsequent fallout with the krogan, salarians, and turians - the geth heretics and Saren - Cerberus... Perhaps, as Javik seems to believe, this is the first cycle where the galaxy is actually united against the reapers, and disregarding the crucible for the moment (for me that thing's a big black box and I have no idea what it's really supposed to do or if it's of reaper origin or not), that in and of itself is a threat to the reapers.
So, for the catalyst to make a last stand emphasizing synthetic vs. organic conflict makes sense. Perhaps indoctrination can function similarly to how the reaper code did in the geth consensus - by manipulating thoughts/memories so the "wrong" choice seems like the best one; by making it seem as if potential allies are actually enemies and sleeping with the reapers is the best means to ensure some kind of survival (geth heretics, TIM, Saren). This is exactly the scenario the catalyst presents you with - by making it seem as if, despite all your efforts resolving galactic conflicts (chief among them being synthetic/organic cooperation), it is for nothing and conflict will always continue unless you sleep with the enemy in a manner akin to TIM or Saren.
The destroy ending where Shepard takes a breath and where EDI can still emerge from the Normandy (this happened when I took her and my LI in the final mission - they both followed Joker out of the ship**) demonstrates that the catalyst isn't necessarily trustworthy. If IT is true, then the premise of inevitable synthetic vs organic conflict may be deliberately meant to invoke a WTF!? kind of response from the player, but not necessarily Shepard if he/she is fighting indoctrination. Even if we haven't got it completely right with IT, though, and the end turns out not to be a hallucination, I'm still convinced that the catalyst/reapers are trying to manipulate Shepard into believing a false premise and will be very surprised if the promised "clarification dlc" doesn't make this obvious in some fashion (I just want the gaps to be filled coherently, please!!).
As for the reapers themselves - came across this lone post that I personally think is quite cool and kind of fits with my notion of the reapers being concerned by a united synthetic/organic galactic front against them:
http://social.biowar...ndex/10306287/1
Cheers, and sorry if I'm just rehashing stuff that's already been said :-(
**This is isn't the hugging scene that comes with synthesis - EDI came out just before the screen faded, following Liara (my LI). Maybe it's a bug, but Shepard breathing still makes me distrust the catalyst. Also, the kid is just effing creepy - horror movies clearly demonstrate that you should never trust creepy children.
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