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[n00bsauce2010]

Denvian wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/185218500011376640

New smoking gun!

Niiiiiice

how many hints do they need to drop on twitter before people start believing they had a plan?

[llbountyhunter]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Denvian wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/185218500011376640

New smoking gun!

Niiiiiice

how many hints do they need to drop on twitter before people start believing they had a plan?

there going to have to all out say "the  indocternation theory is right" in order to convince some of these people...

[S Atomeha]

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

[n00bsauce2010]

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

I'm not sure if I understand your question.

All I can say is "TIM makes it clear that he himself things "he" is able to control the reapers" he says during convo in the citadel sequence "I know I can control them" but.. if you pay attention.. and let him kill anderson and kill you he doesn't even use the console to try and control them. The camera even makes a point to show him walking away from the console. So if he's so sure he can control them, why doesn't he try and do it?

[Ravel1992]

Anyone notice that:

ME3 DVD1(~8GB) + DVD2(~6GB) = ~14GB and after instal ME3 have only 9,95 GB.
I checked a few other games I have and they ALWAYS take more space after instal.

Interesting. Interesting.

[llbountyhunter]

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

[Martukis]

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

 I've seen some interesting takes on this, but I personally want to believe that he managed to create a sort of control mechanism for moderate levels of indoctrination and also a quick-indoc device, using both to assume indirect control. On the other hand, that scene might also be part of the hallucination/dream/what have you. On the other hand, maybe TIM - or Wilson - had that control chip Miranda spoke of denying implanted into Shepard. That, or he is being indoc'd and TIM is using some controlling device, though that seems odd. It might be highly sophisticated/devloped biotics/implants.

[Rohirrim]

I was considering the massive delay between the ending as shown and the continuation and came to think that it might actually be better this way.

If the Indoc Theory would have been on the dics all along, a lot of player wouldn't have understood it. Now, however, the community gathered hint by hint and caused so many wow effects, that everybody knows what (could have) happened after Harbinger's beam hit. Everybody will understand this incridible plot twist.

If they pull it off, I think it could outdo Star Wars: Kotor's revelation of the player character's true name...

[S Atomeha]

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

well i mean if we took the ending at face value, then why can TIM control shepard if hes not indoctrinated?(since sanctuary gives TIM the ability to control reaper forces)

[llbountyhunter]

Ravel1992 wrote...

Anyone notice that:

ME3 DVD1(~8GB) + DVD2(~6GB) = ~14GB and after instal ME3 have only 9,95 GB.
I checked a few other games I have and they ALWAYS take more space after instal.

Interesting. Interesting.

yeah the files are compressed to save space, then unpacked at install. 

also if you look up "minimum requirments for pc" it says 15gb, although my pc says the file is 10.5 gb (with arrival) mabe its for all the save files, or an upcoming ~4gb dlc?

[llbountyhunter]

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

well i mean if we took the ending at face value, then why can TIM control shepard if hes not indoctrinated?(since sanctuary gives TIM the ability to control reaper forces)

he was hallucinating at the time, TIM represented the reapers and were pushing the idea of control, while andersonwas paragon and tried to push destroy

[n00bsauce2010]

Ravel1992 wrote...

Anyone notice that:

ME3 DVD1(~8GB) + DVD2(~6GB) = ~14GB and after instal ME3 have only 9,95 GB.
I checked a few other games I have and they ALWAYS take more space after instal.

Interesting. Interesting.

Yeah. We've been contemplating this for a while. It would be a smart move if the endings were on the game all along. And they were able to be unlocked by a patch or something.

Now is that on the pc version or the xbox360?

Ps3 is already ruled out since blu-rays can hold like 25gb and also the game doesn't actually install on the hard drive (I have a ps3 and the game so I know)

[Plummy]

Ravel1992 wrote...

Anyone notice that:

ME3 DVD1(~8GB) + DVD2(~6GB) = ~14GB and after instal ME3 have only 9,95 GB.
I checked a few other games I have and they ALWAYS take more space after instal.

Interesting. Interesting.

I just checked my digital download size and it's 12.3GB with the DLC on top off that. I know they where saying that CD copies of the game came with From Ashes already on it...... So where is the other 1.7GB if you are right?

[llbountyhunter]

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

well i mean if we took the ending at face value, then why can TIM control shepard if hes not indoctrinated?(since sanctuary gives TIM the ability to control reaper forces)

he was hallucinating at the time, TIM was never really there, it was shepared mind making an apparation for the reaper forces who were trying to convince him to choose control- while anderson represesnted shepards paragon side to destroy the reapers.


sorry double post...

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 29 mars 2012 - 06:34 .

[Vox Draco]

Rohirrim wrote...

I was considering the massive delay between the ending as shown and the continuation and came to think that it might actually be better this way.

If the Indoc Theory would have been on the dics all along, a lot of player wouldn't have understood it. Now, however, the community gathered hint by hint and caused so many wow effects, that everybody knows what (could have) happened after Harbinger's beam hit. Everybody will understand this incridible plot twist.

If they pull it off, I think it could outdo Star Wars: Kotor's revelation of the player character's true name...

Well...the Indoc cannot really work if the games is out, people play, meet the star child and then...Shep wakes up in the rubble and the battle continues. This would never have had the same emotional impact bioware hopefully planned to achieve with the I.T.

So the long time span between release and (hopefully) the revelation of the I.T. to be true is indeed benefical. It helps to spread the Theory, but it keeps the suspense it it is really true...

And now...just imagine the PAX and a giant Monitor...epic music...and an epic trailer about the "true" End once and for all to Shepards saga...

Of course many would not be happy, but I think the (vocal?) majority of fans would begin to build a shrine dedicated to worship Bioware for eternity...and a lesser one to EA...but we'll visit this one only once a year on special sundays, of course

Ah...one can dream, right?

[S Atomeha]

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

well i mean if we took the ending at face value, then why can TIM control shepard if hes not indoctrinated?(since sanctuary gives TIM the ability to control reaper forces)

he was hallucinating at the time, TIM represented the reapers and were pushing the idea of control, while andersonwas paragon and tried to push destroy

I realize the main theories, but im asking why it's never brought up if they think the ending is real or should be taken at face value.

[Ravel1992]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Now is that on the pc version or the xbox360?

It is PC version.

[llbountyhunter]

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

well i mean if we took the ending at face value, then why can TIM control shepard if hes not indoctrinated?(since sanctuary gives TIM the ability to control reaper forces)

he was hallucinating at the time, TIM represented the reapers and were pushing the idea of control, while andersonwas paragon and tried to push destroy

I realize the main theories, but im asking why it's never brought up if they think the ending is real or should be taken at face value.

oh they just brush this off as biowars lazy writing.... honestly how can you argue with them if their points are like this? idiots.

[n00bsauce2010]

Ravel1992 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Now is that on the pc version or the xbox360?

It is PC version.

From what I understand the xbox version also doesn't install everything that is on the disk.

[llbountyhunter]

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

are you talking about shepard? when the crucible tells him that he alone can control them? well the reapers CAN lie... I mean the whole time you were bieng indoctrinated.

and if your talking about TIM, well he never could control the reapers.

well i mean if we took the ending at face value, then why can TIM control shepard if hes not indoctrinated?(since sanctuary gives TIM the ability to control reaper forces)

he was hallucinating at the time, TIM represented the reapers and were pushing the idea of control, while andersonwas paragon and tried to push destroy

I realize the main theories, but im asking why it's never brought up if they think the ending is real or should be taken at face value.

oh they just brush this off as biowars lazy writing.... honestly how can you argue with the idt haters, if their points are like this? idiots.

[Sammuthegreat]

Vox Draco wrote...

*snippety snip*

Of course many would not be happy, but I think the (vocal?) majority of fans would begin to build a shrine dedicated to worship Bioware for eternity...

I hope this is what would happen, although I fear there would still be a backlash, especially if the DLC is paid. If it's paid I'll still buy it, but I'll certainly look very closely at future BioWare games before I buy them, in case they're trying to screw me out of more money just to finish the game again.

If it's free, however, then hand me the bricks and mortar and I'll be the first in line to build that shrine (rhymes).

[savagejuicebox]

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

I think what your saying is why does TIM suddenly have the power to control people,(shepard and anderson) if this isnt an indoc atempt? Yeah i wondered that myself, also the reapers cant control people except through indoctrination, so where did he get that power? not the reapers, not cerberus...

[Sammuthegreat]

S Atomeha wrote...
I realize the main theories, but im asking why it's never brought up if they think the ending is real or should be taken at face value.

It's called selective hearing. A lot of people are actively ignoring the patently logical and obvious just so they can have a good complain.

I say let them. There's no way to convince them, so I'll just get on with believing what I believe, and they can go on believing whatever they want too.

[S Atomeha]

savagejuicebox wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

I think what your saying is why does TIM suddenly have the power to control people,(shepard and anderson) if this isnt an indoc atempt? Yeah i wondered that myself, also the reapers cant control people except through indoctrination, so where did he get that power? not the reapers, not cerberus...

well what i mean is, if after getting the tech from Sanctuary implanted into him... why does reaper focused control devices work on shepard?

[n00bsauce2010]

Sammuthegreat wrote...

Vox Draco wrote...

*snippety snip*

Of course many would not be happy, but I think the (vocal?) majority of fans would begin to build a shrine dedicated to worship Bioware for eternity...

I hope this is what would happen, although I fear there would still be a backlash, especially if the DLC is paid. If it's paid I'll still buy it, but I'll certainly look very closely at future BioWare games before I buy them, in case they're trying to screw me out of more money just to finish the game again.

If it's free, however, then hand me the bricks and mortar and I'll be the first in line to build that shrine (rhymes).

your point is noted. But.. bioware's games.. possible glaring plot holes and bad writing (according to anti IDT) they're all still good games. Not many bugs or gameplay issues. The majority of games that come out are crappy.. very few are at a level anywhere close to biowares games.

Just my opinion. I also think there will be a backlash. Regardless people are gonna find a way to be upset. But I highly doubt they're going to make us pay for that dlc. I don't see many people buying it if they do. (I will..) because I don't really care either way.