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[Dwailing]

njfluffy19 wrote...

benben84 wrote...

monrapias wrote...

I'm going to play through me1 and 2 again, see if I can find something more to suport the theory.

On a side note, I wonder what happends with Garrus and wrex and tali if you don't bring them with you in me1.

If you don't recruite garrus in ME1 you still end up with him in ME2, he's still archangel and its plays out the same.  Of course you could still have him killed in ME 2 though, not sure how the ME3 story plays out without him.  Who doesn't want Garrus though?!?!

Sick individuals.

I agree about Garrus.  As for Tali, I don't think there is a way for you to NOT recruit her in ME1.  I think you can skip her in ME2 though...  With Wrex, I don't know.  I actually did wonder what happens in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in ME1.  I would guess that Wreav still becomes leader, but I don't know.

[JTP117]

Denvian wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/185218500011376640

New smoking gun!

Niiiiiice

Doesn't get much clearer than that

[JTP117]

Dwailing wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

benben84 wrote...

monrapias wrote...

I'm going to play through me1 and 2 again, see if I can find something more to suport the theory.

On a side note, I wonder what happends with Garrus and wrex and tali if you don't bring them with you in me1.

If you don't recruite garrus in ME1 you still end up with him in ME2, he's still archangel and its plays out the same.  Of course you could still have him killed in ME 2 though, not sure how the ME3 story plays out without him.  Who doesn't want Garrus though?!?!

Sick individuals.

I agree about Garrus.  As for Tali, I don't think there is a way for you to NOT recruit her in ME1.  I think you can skip her in ME2 though...  With Wrex, I don't know.  I actually did wonder what happens in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in ME1.  I would guess that Wreav still becomes leader, but I don't know.

If you don't go looking for Wrex (and why wouldnt you?!) he stops you before you leave the citadel and insists that he comes with you. So I think he's along for the ride no matter what.

[baruaru]

savagejuicebox wrote...

baruaru wrote...

savagejuicebox wrote...

baruaru wrote...

savagejuicebox wrote...

S Atomeha wrote...

Well, i know what the general concensus on TIMs control is, but why does no one bring up the point that he only (should only ie.) have the power to control reaper forces.

I think what your saying is why does TIM suddenly have the power to control people,(shepard and anderson) if this isnt an indoc atempt? Yeah i wondered that myself, also the reapers cant control people except through indoctrination, so where did he get that power? not the reapers, not cerberus...

From the reaper artifact at Shanxi(?)(And mostly after he touches at Ben), Rofl.


Well, the old days when Jack were a good person, obviously.

If they can control people without indoctrination then why dont they do that all the time?? weve never seen a single time where a reaper controls someone like TIM controled shep and anderson... and if im wrong please tell me when this happens because i dont remember it...

About TIM story (Jack Harper): http://masseffect.wi...fect:_Evolution

Its a kinda long story, so, get a Pizza to read it.

But about controlling, doesnt know it. Just saying that Jack had touched someone that had effect of the artifact (Monolith) itself.
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I will check it out, thanks.

Forgot to mention, but theres a term inside of the story that leads to understand that it means "Marauders" from the ME3 aswell. (A small spoiler, but... But they called it "Meta-turians")

Modifié par baruaru, 29 mars 2012 - 07:19 .

[waldstr18]

but doesnt he protect us? no matter which color we choose, the reaper threat is over afterwards.

[Dwailing]

JTP117 wrote...

Denvian wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

twitter.com/#!/masseffect/status/185218500011376640

New smoking gun!

Niiiiiice

Doesn't get much clearer than that

This is it people!!!!  We can tell our children when we talk to them about the greatest moment in the history of gaming, that WE HELD THE LINE!!!!!

[Dwailing]

JTP117 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

benben84 wrote...

monrapias wrote...

I'm going to play through me1 and 2 again, see if I can find something more to suport the theory.

On a side note, I wonder what happends with Garrus and wrex and tali if you don't bring them with you in me1.

If you don't recruite garrus in ME1 you still end up with him in ME2, he's still archangel and its plays out the same.  Of course you could still have him killed in ME 2 though, not sure how the ME3 story plays out without him.  Who doesn't want Garrus though?!?!

Sick individuals.

I agree about Garrus.  As for Tali, I don't think there is a way for you to NOT recruit her in ME1.  I think you can skip her in ME2 though...  With Wrex, I don't know.  I actually did wonder what happens in ME2 if you didn't recruit him in ME1.  I would guess that Wreav still becomes leader, but I don't know.

If you don't go looking for Wrex (and why wouldnt you?!) he stops you before you leave the citadel and insists that he comes with you. So I think he's along for the ride no matter what.

I thought I had heard there was a way to complete the game without recruiting him.

[IronSabbath88]

Even if you don't recruit Wrex in ME1, I hear it just diverts to Wreav by default for ME2.

[Dwailing]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Even if you don't recruit Wrex in ME1, I hear it just diverts to Wreav by default for ME2.

That would make sense.  I don't think Wrex would have gone back to the Krogan without Shepard's prompting 

[Martukis]

waldstr18 wrote...

but doesnt he protect us? no matter which color we choose, the reaper threat is over afterwards.

 Right, and no matter which color the mass relay network is destroyed and the fleet's dextro-amino participants end up dead. Oh, and somehow Joker and crew - even those on Earth charing the conduit - wind up on some jungle planet. But not if it was all a hallucination/near-death experience.

[n00bsauce2010]

Martukis wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

but doesnt he protect us? no matter which color we choose, the reaper threat is over afterwards.

 Right, and no matter which color the mass relay network is destroyed and the fleet's dextro-amino participants end up dead. Oh, and somehow Joker and crew - even those on Earth charing the conduit - wind up on some jungle planet. But not if it was all a hallucination/near-death experience.

In theory.. if the space magic wave was going to destory the normandy, which it seems like it is. Then it should just as easily destroy all of the ships in the fleet. So shepard managed to kill all the fleets he gathered according to the whole normandy scene fiasco.

[monrapias]

njfluffy19 wrote...

benben84 wrote...

monrapias wrote...

I'm going to play through me1 and 2 again, see if I can find something more to suport the theory.

On a side note, I wonder what happends with Garrus and wrex and tali if you don't bring them with you in me1.

If you don't recruite garrus in ME1 you still end up with him in ME2, he's still archangel and its plays out the same.  Of course you could still have him killed in ME 2 though, not sure how the ME3 story plays out without him.  Who doesn't want Garrus though?!?!

Sick individuals.

What about wrex and tali?  I were just wondering.   anyway,  I think we'll get a some news from bioware in 1 week.

edit: I saw a post about how wrex will seek you and demand to come with you,  but there is an option when you talk to tali the first time where you can tell her that you don't want her, I never tried that though,

Modifié par monrapias, 29 mars 2012 - 07:29 .

[Aanlen]

http://pedpickle.tum...-appreciate-the


This gives me so hardcore goosebumps. Why would bioware pay an actor to say that, if IT isnt true?

Modifié par Aanlen, 29 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[Baal Sagoth]

Only known case of Reapers completly controlling someone (including their movements etc.) is Harbinger and Collectors (assuming direct control:alien: ) and even in that case it isn't sure if he could force Collector to make certain movements, to be honest.

Even implanted Saren wasn't controlled by Sovereign in that way (i.e. Sovereign couldn't stop Saren from putting bullet inside his head -> conclusion: Sovereign couldn't control Saren's movements).

TIM during final scene has unprecedented power. Even if he could control Shep due to his implants (but it is unlikely considering Saren's case) there is no way how he could control Anderson. As someone mentioned in Sanctuary they were trying to take over Reapers signal to gain control over husks. Miranda's father stated that making it work with actual Reaper will be difficult. Even TIM said that he needs Crucible to control Reapers, so there is no way that he already got super uber control powers over anyone and anything. It is either moar Space Magic:wizard: or IDT.

[baruaru]

The truth is... Marauder Shields are our only hope.
























What. MAGIC.

[Chaosbrain]

Can't wait for PAX... Imagine the reaction of the people when they announce that IT is true... They will be gods
I'm looking forward to the end of my depression, finally i will be able for a second playthrough

[Sire Styx]

If I understand correctly, with the IT means that the ending didn't happen. All of it was in Shepards mind. The reason TIM could control everyone is NOT because TIM was awesome or whatever, but is because TIM is the representation of indoctrination, Shepard was Shepard and Anderson was Shepard's will against indoctrination. Shepard had to fight against indoctrination and wasn't physically being controlled.

I hope that makes sense, lol?

[baruaru]

Sire Styx wrote...

If I understand correctly, with the IT means that the ending didn't happen. All of it was in Shepards mind. The reason TIM could control everyone is NOT because TIM was awesome or whatever, but is because TIM is the representation of indoctrination, Shepard was Shepard and Anderson was Shepard's will against indoctrination. Shepard had to fight against indoctrination and wasn't physically being controlled.

I hope that makes sense, lol?

It DOES make sense, dude. ;D 

[Sire Styx]

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I'm hoping they do announce new ending DLC but I will not be buying any pre-ending DLC until (hopefully) the ending is fixed/elaborated upon. Any additional content prior to the ending getting fixed means nothing. I could single handedly retake omega or blow up a planet or something, but if the ending remains as it is, then whatever I do would have very little impact on anything else.

[schneeland]

@Sire:

Well, maybe a softer way to put it: the end has to be interpreted in a symbolic fashion. But otherwise, that's correct.

[baruaru]

Sire Styx wrote...

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I'm hoping they do announce new ending DLC but I will not be buying any pre-ending DLC until (hopefully) the ending is fixed/elaborated upon. Any additional content prior to the ending getting fixed means nothing. I could single handedly retake omega or blow up a planet or something, but if the ending remains as it is, then whatever I do would have very little impact on anything else.

It will be the same way as of Fallout 3.



.... I think.

[STAG IRONHIDE]

It makes sense, but they should've actually expanded on this when Shepard gasps for air. Now it is just a fan theory.

[savagejuicebox]

Sire Styx wrote...

If I understand correctly, with the IT means that the ending didn't happen. All of it was in Shepards mind. The reason TIM could control everyone is NOT because TIM was awesome or whatever, but is because TIM is the representation of indoctrination, Shepard was Shepard and Anderson was Shepard's will against indoctrination. Shepard had to fight against indoctrination and wasn't physically being controlled.

I hope that makes sense, lol?

Most of us understand this, we are just pointing it out to any naysaying lurkers who may be hanging around...<_<

[Chaosbrain]

Don't know if it has already been posted, but alienware is giving away some sniper rifles for ME3.
Here's the link if you're interested: http://www.alienware...fect-3-giveaway

[n00bsauce2010]

Chaosbrain wrote...

Don't know if it has already been posted, but alienware is giving away some sniper rifles for ME3.
Here's the link if you're interested: http://www.alienware...fect-3-giveaway

PC only though