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njfluffy19 wrote...
Anyone noticed EDI has the same eye design, but they don't glow?
estebanus wrote...
crimsontotem wrote...
I just heard that if you have saved the Collector's Base and have low EMS, instead of Destroy option, you get control option only... is that true?
Yes. Yes, it is.
Kroen135 wrote...
njfluffy19 wrote...
Jaxitty wrote...
Has it been checked to see if any others that are Indovtrinated have eyes similar to TIM? Like Lang?
Saren's eyes glow.
As do ME2 renegade Shepard's eyes
Kroen135 wrote...
njfluffy19 wrote...
Jaxitty wrote...
Has it been checked to see if any others that are Indovtrinated have eyes similar to TIM? Like Lang?
Saren's eyes glow.
As do ME2 renegade Shepard's eyes
Modifié par njfluffy19, 30 mars 2012 - 04:02 .
Rifneno wrote...
njfluffy19 wrote...
Anyone noticed EDI has the same eye design, but they don't glow?
Yes. People have brought it up many times. Mostly to "disprove" that the eye design means indoctrination. Which makes me want to punt an orphan because I can't believe how many times I've had to explain "a robot can look like whatever the hell its designer wants it to look like".
People say I have an anger management problem. But they never say it to my face!
Modifié par njfluffy19, 30 mars 2012 - 04:05 .
njfluffy19 wrote...
Kroen135 wrote...
njfluffy19 wrote...
Jaxitty wrote...
Has it been checked to see if any others that are Indovtrinated have eyes similar to TIM? Like Lang?
Saren's eyes glow.
As do ME2 renegade Shepard's eyes
Well, red, not blue.
I really don't like how they pulled the whole "Bad choices make you ugly, good ones make you pretty!" It's just cheesy. I mean, being an a**hole is going to make my skin tear away to show my glowing cybernetics? Really? And being a goody-two-shoes is going to make it heal? Are you kidding me?
Whatever though. Whatever!
DreamTension wrote...
Wasn't she a sex doll? Makes sense kind of...unnecessary...
Ms_Alison_Gunn wrote...
Correct me if I am wrong but Dr. Amanda Kenson's eyes were normal and she was clearly indoctranated.
njfluffy19 wrote...
DreamTension wrote...
Wasn't she a sex doll? Makes sense kind of...unnecessary...
Well considering she can be fully naked throughout the game and you don't see any... junk... down there, I find it weird how when she puts on the Miranda-esque outfit that she suddenly grows a va-jay-jay. Call me crazy, though.
DreamTension wrote...
Yeah, unnecessary for any of that.
DreamTension wrote...
njfluffy19 wrote...
DreamTension wrote...
Wasn't she a sex doll? Makes sense kind of...unnecessary...
Well considering she can be fully naked throughout the game and you don't see any... junk... down there, I find it weird how when she puts on the Miranda-esque outfit that she suddenly grows a va-jay-jay. Call me crazy, though.
??? I missed all of that (not calling you a liar, I had no idea).
Yeah, unnecessary for any of that.
And yeah, I was disturbed when I discovered it. Clearly pandering to horny men. Which is fine, I guess, but... Ewww...
kilgorek wrote...
Topsider wrote...
kilgorek wrote...
Topsider wrote...
People do realize that if the indoc theory is true, you'd basically have to repeat the last section? Assuming the whole game isn't a dream, the Reapers still need to be stopped, right? So that means do exactly the same as you did before except this time it is real. Get to the Citadel, activate the Catalyst/Crucible, and boom, reapers die.
Yawn.
By all means expand the current endings, but pretending they never existed outside of Shepard's mind would be the lamest thing ever.
What? This is a ridiculous assumption.
Obviously, if there is more to the story, then it won't be that simple. And obviously it won't be the EXACT same sequence, since the whole theory states that the Citadel is put together through Shepard's subconcious during the dream.
Why is it ridiculous? Because you are convinced the Indoc theory is true? You actually think Bioware is going to tear up the current endings and start from scratch? If indoc is true, the Reapers still need to be stopped and would obviously require an entirely new conclusion, or it's just a repeat... That stuff takes time and money... and admitting that you screwed up in the first place.
Learn to read. I said IF there is more to the story, it won't be that simple. That doesn't imply that accept IDT as fact, though I do believe it's most likely the case. And IF there is more to the story (i.e. more gameplay that leads to the proper ending) then it's not going to be a cut and paste of the "dream sequence." That much is obvious, and you're assumption that it would be the exact same is what I was stating was ridiculous. You have no idea what Bioware has planned. You are obviously ignoring the argument that if IDT is real then Bioware had it planned from the get go. Therefore, they had stuff in development or possibly even closed to finished before the game was released.
And I don't know how many times someone has to say it, but it's not meant to be an actual ending according to the IDT. It's merely a plot twist and the game is meant to be continued on from the ruins of London. Read the thread you're posting in.
Topsider wrote...
I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.
Spiderman_2028 wrote...
4. Space-Child. While I've had all 3 options available in both runs, I've watched YouTube video's where people have only been given the destroy option. A lot of people bring up the differences in the dialogue when star-child approaches Shep- "Wake up" as opposed to "What are you doing here?". After Shep says his piece about hope: "You're taking away our future... Without that, we have no hope... Without hope we may as well be machines...[etc]" ... Star-Child's response to this differs as well. With high EMS, he says "But you have hope. More than you know." With low EMS, he says something dramatically different. "You have no hope". Fair bit of disparity there- and at face value could support the interpretation of Harby not bothering with indoctrinating Shep at low EMS...
5. Not a big one- but on Tarzan-Jungle-World, Javik (aka Prothy the Prothean) and James Vega got off the Normandy with Joker. Javik first. I took Garrus and Liara on the Earth missions- so my squad mates didn't magically appear. This was after my newest ending, choosing destroy. My first run through, I picked Synthesis- Joker got off the ship with EDI, and Javik followed that time, as well. Javik last- he had been in my Synthesis squad.
6. I'm a little p!$$3d I didn't get more scenes/time with my LI (Jack). Nothing to do with Indoctrination Theory- just bugs me!
IronSabbath88 wrote...
I don't know how much more compelling thoughts we have to put into this theory, we'll still always have people denying it.
Perhaps they're just not happy they got fooled.
njfluffy19 wrote...
I think it's because EDI's ****** had to be countered.
http://i.imgur.com/wMqTD.jpg
Edit: Image removed because I puked in my mouth.
njfluffy19 wrote...
Topsider wrote...
I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.
*Stomps feet* And it never be real! Never! I don't believe any of it! It's all BS. Waaa, waaa, waaa.
We aren't forcing our views on you, sir or madam, so I don't know why your knickers are in such a knot. They have clearly stated that this story is "not the last of Shepard" whether it be DLC before or after the current endings. That's fine. Whatever. It could also be just another hint that the endings are not the "true" endings. They aren't pandering to us fans. They promised a product and didn't deliver-- we're all right in our own regard to be upset with them for false advertising if the endings are true as they stand now. It wouldn't be "wrong" of them to take into consideration this theory just because it is "fan theory". It's not like Bioware is the be-all-end-all of writing. Geeze. If you really feel that way why don't you go burn your copy of ME3 and sing Kumbaya or something.
Topsider wrote...
kilgorek wrote...
Topsider wrote...
kilgorek wrote...
Topsider wrote...
People do realize that if the indoc theory is true, you'd basically have to repeat the last section? Assuming the whole game isn't a dream, the Reapers still need to be stopped, right? So that means do exactly the same as you did before except this time it is real. Get to the Citadel, activate the Catalyst/Crucible, and boom, reapers die.
Yawn.
By all means expand the current endings, but pretending they never existed outside of Shepard's mind would be the lamest thing ever.
What? This is a ridiculous assumption.
Obviously, if there is more to the story, then it won't be that simple. And obviously it won't be the EXACT same sequence, since the whole theory states that the Citadel is put together through Shepard's subconcious during the dream.
Why is it ridiculous? Because you are convinced the Indoc theory is true? You actually think Bioware is going to tear up the current endings and start from scratch? If indoc is true, the Reapers still need to be stopped and would obviously require an entirely new conclusion, or it's just a repeat... That stuff takes time and money... and admitting that you screwed up in the first place.
Learn to read. I said IF there is more to the story, it won't be that simple. That doesn't imply that accept IDT as fact, though I do believe it's most likely the case. And IF there is more to the story (i.e. more gameplay that leads to the proper ending) then it's not going to be a cut and paste of the "dream sequence." That much is obvious, and you're assumption that it would be the exact same is what I was stating was ridiculous. You have no idea what Bioware has planned. You are obviously ignoring the argument that if IDT is real then Bioware had it planned from the get go. Therefore, they had stuff in development or possibly even closed to finished before the game was released.
And I don't know how many times someone has to say it, but it's not meant to be an actual ending according to the IDT. It's merely a plot twist and the game is meant to be continued on from the ruins of London. Read the thread you're posting in.
I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.
Topsider wrote...
I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
So i've asked this question like 3-4 times and no one replies. People were talking about bioware employees being on vacation? is that true?
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