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njfluffy19 wrote...

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I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.


*Stomps feet* And it never be real! Never! I don't believe any of it! It's all BS. Waaa, waaa, waaa.

We aren't forcing our views on you, sir or madam, so I don't know why your knickers are in such a knot. They have clearly stated that this story is "not the last of Shepard" whether it be DLC before or after the current endings. That's fine. Whatever. It could also be just another hint that the endings are not the "true" endings. They aren't pandering to us fans. They promised a product and didn't deliver-- we're all right in our own regard to be upset with them for false advertising if the endings are true as they stand now. It wouldn't be "wrong" of them to take into consideration this theory just because it is "fan theory". It's not like Bioware is the be-all-end-all of writing. Geeze. If you really feel that way why don't you go burn your copy of ME3 and sing Kumbaya or something.


DLC to "correct" failed endings is not something to encourage -- especially if you have to pay for it. Don't give EA ideas. I feel sorry for those who buy a game and expect a beginning, middle, and end in the same package. Oh, but in case of a f*** up, please buy our dlc instead, you'll get the closure you deserve! Many people don't buy dlc at all. No "true" ending for them I guess.

ME3 endings aren't the best but discarding them entirely is not the answer, and rewriting them would take a considerable amount of time and effort. Gamers might have lost interest by then. Just clarify the end and add closure for each character, BG2 style.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

I think what people find to be the hard pill to swallow is that if the IDT is in fact true, the endings are not truly the endings. What will happen to people who live in the Boonies and can't download DLC? WIll they never get to experience the real endings? What about people who aren't as invested as more diehard fans and won't even take note of DLC? How does that work? Do the endings still count for those people? What about all the dudes and dudettes who returned their games?

That and all the backlash they've received. Those are points I can understand being of debate. If IDT, they didn't sell us a full game out of the box. The DLC could still be free, but some people wouldn't be able to download it. Rare cases, I'm sure, but it's still probable they would never experience a true ending.


If it's a free DLC then I'm not sure how they could reach out to the people without a connection to the internet. For the people who didn't keep their games I think they deserve to not get the true ending if they didn't have enough faith to keep the game after they bought it. Which we all know is an over reaction (from what I've seen on BSN most liked all but the last 10 minutes of the game, loved even). If it's a paid thing, which we all hope it isn't, it wouldn't be difficult to release a little expansion type of disc to game retailers with the ending on it. 

If it is indeed free. They will either just say "sorry, get internet" or they have found some other method of delivery. 

I had a theory earlier I believe was defeated concerning game file sizes, and the ps3 and xbox file sizes are 15gb roughly and pc only 10gb. Possbily meaning there could be a "bomb trigger" to unlock the rest of the data files (the true ending actually on the disc but locked) at a certain time and day of the year. and the pc didn't have it cause of people digging through files and find it (that and all [legal] pc games are registered through Origin which is exclusively controlled by EA. and they would simply patch it to the pc gamers the day/time the "bomb trigger" activates. As I said I believe this theory was shot down but not sure.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

I think what people find to be the hard pill to swallow is that if the IDT is in fact true, the endings are not truly the endings. What will happen to people who live in the Boonies and can't download DLC? WIll they never get to experience the real endings? What about people who aren't as invested as more diehard fans and won't even take note of DLC? How does that work? Do the endings still count for those people? What about all the dudes and dudettes who returned their games?

That and all the backlash they've received. Those are points I can understand being of debate. If IDT, they didn't sell us a full game out of the box. The DLC could still be free, but some people wouldn't be able to download it. Rare cases, I'm sure, but it's still probable they would never experience a true ending.

Personally, I never thought the theory necessarily "required" ending DLC (whether we get ending DLC in the end or not, that's a different story).
I just figured what we got was the ending, and from there everything that happened afterwards was assumed (so like, it's assumed after Shepard wakes up he gets up and defeats the Reapers) and we just had to piece it together. Basically, it's just an ambiguous, cliffhanger ending, and that's the way it's supposed to be.

I mean, it ends kinda in the same way as Inception. Sorta a cliffhanger thing going on.
Granted, a lot more needs to be assumed for ME3's ending than Inception, but eh, that's just me.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

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So i've asked this question like 3-4 times and no one replies. People were talking about bioware employees being on vacation? is that true?


Uhh... I don't know and what does it matter?


It matters because who is working on this so called "content" they said they are working on to help explain the endings better?  If nobody is actually working on anything it means it's been completed already and sitting there waiting to be released!

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njfluffy19 wrote...

I think what people find to be the hard pill to swallow is that if the IDT is in fact true, the endings are not truly the endings. What will happen to people who live in the Boonies and can't download DLC? WIll they never get to experience the real endings? What about people who aren't as invested as more diehard fans and won't even take note of DLC? How does that work? Do the endings still count for those people? What about all the dudes and dudettes who returned their games?

That and all the backlash they've received. Those are points I can understand being of debate. If IDT, they didn't sell us a full game out of the box. The DLC could still be free, but some people wouldn't be able to download it. Rare cases, I'm sure, but it's still probable they would never experience a true ending.


Hmm. The thing I see is that there is either an ending on the disk, or there isn't. It just depends on how you interpret that ending. And the thing about people not experiencing the dlc (that's a rather small minority) if you don't have some form of internet by now during 2012 then wtf are you doing? society almost dictates you have it. I doubt bioware is concerned with a super small majority.

If you sold the game before waiting to see what bioware had planned, that's your fault. You flipped out, ****ed, whined, cried and ultimately failed the test (that's if there even is one.) So if IDT is true and it was their plan.. it's your fault you sold the game (simple.) I think the point here people seem to forget is that it's Biowares game. They can do whatever the f*ck they please with it. They can change the ending, they can expand on it. Or do nothing about it. Not once when I was watching mass effect 3 adds did it say "wildly different choices/endings" there are no grounds for a lawsuit at all because there is "an ending" on the disc. Yes it isn't the ending we wanted... but too bad. X-Men the last stand wasn't the ending we wanted.. but did we all **** and cry and tell the director and writers to nullify their work and redo it? no.

Though I 100% believe Indoc theory was their plan. I'm 100% for their decision to give ending dlc or w/e. There is an ending to the game either way..whether through dlc or at face value.

It all goes back to "you can't make everyone happy" no matter what they do someone is gonna cry about it

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benben84 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

So i've asked this question like 3-4 times and no one replies. People were talking about bioware employees being on vacation? is that true?


Uhh... I don't know and what does it matter?


It matters because who is working on this so called "content" they said they are working on to help explain the endings better?  If nobody is actually working on anything it means it's been completed already and sitting there waiting to be released!


the response I was looking for. I just need proof though. Because if they're on vacation it means we were indoctrinated.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

So i've asked this question like 3-4 times and no one replies. People were talking about bioware employees being on vacation? is that true?


Uhh... I don't know and what does it matter?


It matters because if the Bioware employes are on vacation it means whatever they were to work on is done. That means if whatever they mean by "clarify" is DLC it is allready done and if that is the case they have been working on it since way before the game was released since I highly doubt they could pierce together a different high quality clarifying ending since the release of this game.

To but it simply if Bioware´s employes are currently on vacation there is a really good chance all of this was planned.

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Topsider wrote...

DLC to "correct" failed endings is not something to encourage -- especially if you have to pay for it. Don't give EA ideas. I feel sorry for those who buy a game and expect a beginning, middle, and end in the same package. Oh, but in case of a f*** up, please buy our dlc instead, you'll get the closure you deserve! Many people don't buy dlc at all. No "true" ending for them I guess.

ME3 endings aren't the best but discarding them entirely is not the answer, and rewriting them would take a considerable amount of time and effort. Gamers might have lost interest by then. Just clarify the end and add closure for each character, BG2 style.




You're misunderstanding the purpose of this thread. We're merely supporting a theory that we believe to be true. We gather evidence, strong, moderate and weak, and discuss it amongst one another. What originally started off as a coping mechanism has blossomed into something that is quite likely and a possible explanation as to why the endings seemed so out of place.

We aren't promoting "ending DLC". We're promoting our suspicions that Bioware has had an 'ace up their sleeves' with this whole ending bit. We aren't suggesting that the general population needs to go out and spend more money to receive the game's proper ending. It's funny, as said as it is, when I beat the game I was so dumbfounded I was like "Take my money, give me a better ending!" but now I see that is just an all around crap idea. Look what Activision started with the COD series. On the contrary, I believe most of us think the DLC will be an addition to the ending that explains what the heck really happened. A free addition. There would be a crap ton of wronged fans on their behinds if they tried to pull a stunt like that. Look at all the backlash from the ending alone.

And about Baldur's Gate 2... I loved that game :3 With all due respect, that game was entirely different from Mass Effect though. It's a different universe-- A universe BW created on its own. I don't think flashcards would do it justice. Sure, it might help, but damn I'd still be disappointed.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

So i've asked this question like 3-4 times and no one replies. People were talking about bioware employees being on vacation? is that true?


Uhh... I don't know and what does it matter?


It matters because if the Bioware employes are on vacation it means whatever they were to work on is done. That means if whatever they mean by "clarify" is DLC it is allready done and if that is the case they have been working on it since way before the game was released since I highly doubt they could pierce together a different high quality clarifying ending since the release of this game.

To but it simply if Bioware´s employes are currently on vacation there is a really good chance all of this was planned.


I took it that way, as well.  I also took this with a grain of salt.  It's a big company.  I don't think EVERYBODY is on vacation.  No business does that (correction: that I know...).  So it might just be certain personnel.

I also took this to mean don't expect DLC in April.

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"Game telemetry is being used both during development and post release. One of the most exciting applications of this work is the use of game telemetry to support the game design process. Game telemetry analysis can help a designer answer the following questions:

How do players interact with the game?
Which features, modes, and content are players experiencing?
Why do players quit playing the game?
Using game telemetry provides an alternative to conventional playtesting. Rather than bringing in individual participants for playtesting, collecting telemetry enables your entire user base to become playtesters. The advantage of this approach is that data can be collected at an enormous scale, from players in their natural environment playing with friends, across long periods of time. The main disadvantage of this approach is that telemetry provides only quantitative data about players. It enables a designer to identify what players are doing in the game, but not understand why players exhibit specific behavior.

There is a general workflow for using telemetry to inform game design. It is an iterative process consisting of the following steps:

Question: Identify questions about the current design
Record: Enumerate which data needs to be collected and deploy the game
Analyze: Determine if the recorded data matches expectations
Refine: Given the findings, analyze the design and formulate additional questions...

...A variety of different approaches can be used to analyze data collected from players. Game metrics such as feature usage enable a designer to determine which aspects of the game are being explored by players, and retention metrics enable a designer to find out how long players are engaged with the game. These data points can be used to provide recommendations for modifying the design. However, identifying correlations between the design and results found in the data is a non-trivial task, because there is no qualitative feedback from players. One approach to overcome this limitation is to apply predictive modeling techniques, such as machine learning, in order to identify patterns and correlations in the data."

http://eis-blog.ucsc...ed-game-design/

Interesting read. ME3 has a person responsible for telemetry in the credits. Just the kind of thing you need with Multiplayer Events. Or if, say, you'd like to know how many players get which variation of multiple endings, how many go back to select different options and change the outcome, how many players actually finish the game that might have an ending some would frown on prior to revealing some kind of twist or hidden meaning...

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Rifneno wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I don't know how much more compelling thoughts we have to put into this theory, we'll still always have people denying it.

Perhaps they're just not happy they got fooled.


I particularly liked the guy that said the control ending being labelled internally as "bad" was grasping at straws because file names don't mean anything. One of the few so ridiculous I had to actually LOL at it.

njfluffy19 wrote...

I think it's because EDI's ****** had to be countered.

http://i.imgur.com/wMqTD.jpg

Edit: Image removed because I puked in my mouth.


... Huh. My renegade Shep told Joker that the Normandy's pilot seat was the closest he'd ever get to being inside his girlfriend. I guess I owe him two kinds of apologies then.

njfluffy19 wrote...

Topsider wrote...


I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.


*Stomps feet* And it never be real! Never! I don't believe any of it! It's all BS. Waaa, waaa, waaa.

We aren't forcing our views on you, sir or madam, so I don't know why your knickers are in such a knot. They have clearly stated that this story is "not the last of Shepard" whether it be DLC before or after the current endings. That's fine. Whatever. It could also be just another hint that the endings are not the "true" endings. They aren't pandering to us fans. They promised a product and didn't deliver-- we're all right in our own regard to be upset with them for false advertising if the endings are true as they stand now. It wouldn't be "wrong" of them to take into consideration this theory just because it is "fan theory". It's not like Bioware is the be-all-end-all of writing. Geeze. If you really feel that way why don't you go burn your copy of ME3 and sing Kumbaya or something.


Ha! Well said. It's hilarious how people like that are so positive they couldn't possibly be WRONG about something.


It works both ways. Maybe YOU are wrong? Did you ever think of that? FAN theories are not fact and never will be until confirmed by Bioware. I prefer to judge a game by what I bought and experienced, not a bunch of dumb theories to explain a crap ending. Paying extra for "true endings" would add insult to injury. I'll accept the current end... much better than the alternative.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

So i've asked this question like 3-4 times and no one replies. People were talking about bioware employees being on vacation? is that true?


Uhh... I don't know and what does it matter?


It matters because if the Bioware employes are on vacation it means whatever they were to work on is done. That means if whatever they mean by "clarify" is DLC it is allready done and if that is the case they have been working on it since way before the game was released since I highly doubt they could pierce together a different high quality clarifying ending since the release of this game.

To but it simply if Bioware´s employes are currently on vacation there is a really good chance all of this was planned.



I think it's highly unlikely that the entire studio is on vacation. I work in games too and I can't imagine my boss just closing up shop and allowing the entire studio to go on vacation at the same time. 

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

I think what people find to be the hard pill to swallow is that if the IDT is in fact true, the endings are not truly the endings. What will happen to people who live in the Boonies and can't download DLC? WIll they never get to experience the real endings? What about people who aren't as invested as more diehard fans and won't even take note of DLC? How does that work? Do the endings still count for those people? What about all the dudes and dudettes who returned their games?

That and all the backlash they've received. Those are points I can understand being of debate. If IDT, they didn't sell us a full game out of the box. The DLC could still be free, but some people wouldn't be able to download it. Rare cases, I'm sure, but it's still probable they would never experience a true ending.


Hmm. The thing I see is that there is either an ending on the disk, or there isn't. It just depends on how you interpret that ending. And the thing about people not experiencing the dlc (that's a rather small minority) if you don't have some form of internet by now during 2012 then wtf are you doing? society almost dictates you have it. I doubt bioware is concerned with a super small majority.

If you sold the game before waiting to see what bioware had planned, that's your fault. You flipped out, ****ed, whined, cried and ultimately failed the test (that's if there even is one.) So if IDT is true and it was their plan.. it's your fault you sold the game (simple.) I think the point here people seem to forget is that it's Biowares game. They can do whatever the f*ck they please with it. They can change the ending, they can expand on it. Or do nothing about it. Not once when I was watching mass effect 3 adds did it say "wildly different choices/endings" there are no grounds for a lawsuit at all because there is "an ending" on the disc. Yes it isn't the ending we wanted... but too bad. X-Men the last stand wasn't the ending we wanted.. but did we all **** and cry and tell the director and writers to nullify their work and redo it? no.

Though I 100% believe Indoc theory was their plan. I'm 100% for their decision to give ending dlc or w/e. There is an ending to the game either way..whether through dlc or at face value.

It all goes back to "you can't make everyone happy" no matter what they do someone is gonna cry about it




Lol, oh boy... X-men. That's right up there with Lost.

But yeah, you're right. It's funny but I know a lot of people still rocking dial-up. It's sad, I know, but it's true. Like I said, it's still a minority.

I'm fine with DLC ending (will be pissed if we have to pay) I was just expressing my concerns on the matter. I would figure they would want to sell, sell, sell.

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Topsider wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

I don't know how much more compelling thoughts we have to put into this theory, we'll still always have people denying it.

Perhaps they're just not happy they got fooled.


I particularly liked the guy that said the control ending being labelled internally as "bad" was grasping at straws because file names don't mean anything. One of the few so ridiculous I had to actually LOL at it.

njfluffy19 wrote...

I think it's because EDI's ****** had to be countered.

http://i.imgur.com/wMqTD.jpg

Edit: Image removed because I puked in my mouth.


... Huh. My renegade Shep told Joker that the Normandy's pilot seat was the closest he'd ever get to being inside his girlfriend. I guess I owe him two kinds of apologies then.

njfluffy19 wrote...

Topsider wrote...


I read just fine. What I don't accept is that Bioware will change their endings to appease rabid fans. There's no easy way out of this mess, especially when some people are demanding FREE dlc or no deal. Not a chance of that happening. Bioware should clarify the endings, add some decent closure, but never, EVER, use a fan theory. And no, I don't believe they planned any of this. Indoc is a fan theory, nothing more. It is BS to me, and will remain BS even if Bioware succumbed to fan pressure. At least have some integrity and stand by your decisions, even if the original ending is crap.


*Stomps feet* And it never be real! Never! I don't believe any of it! It's all BS. Waaa, waaa, waaa.

We aren't forcing our views on you, sir or madam, so I don't know why your knickers are in such a knot. They have clearly stated that this story is "not the last of Shepard" whether it be DLC before or after the current endings. That's fine. Whatever. It could also be just another hint that the endings are not the "true" endings. They aren't pandering to us fans. They promised a product and didn't deliver-- we're all right in our own regard to be upset with them for false advertising if the endings are true as they stand now. It wouldn't be "wrong" of them to take into consideration this theory just because it is "fan theory". It's not like Bioware is the be-all-end-all of writing. Geeze. If you really feel that way why don't you go burn your copy of ME3 and sing Kumbaya or something.


Ha! Well said. It's hilarious how people like that are so positive they couldn't possibly be WRONG about something.


It works both ways. Maybe YOU are wrong? Did you ever think of that? FAN theories are not fact and never will be until confirmed by Bioware. I prefer to judge a game by what I bought and experienced, not a bunch of dumb theories to explain a crap ending. Paying extra for "true endings" would add insult to injury. I'll accept the current end... much better than the alternative.


Ehm the fact taht we refer to this as a Theory and not as Fact dident allready tip you of to the fact that we are not saying this is how it is, but how it can be? Also we are still not promoting payed DLC, if you actually looked at what people wrote you would see that we would be as butt hurt as anyone else if they demanded money for a Ending DLC.

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Topsider wrote...

It works both ways. Maybe YOU are wrong? Did you ever think of that? FAN theories are not fact and never will be until confirmed by Bioware. I prefer to judge a game by what I bought and experienced, not a bunch of dumb theories to explain a crap ending. Paying extra for "true endings" would add insult to injury. I'll accept the current end... much better than the alternative.


I have considered it.  You haven't.  I'm not positive I'm right only fairly certain, you are positive you're right.  I base my belief on a mountain of evidence indicating it's true.  You base your on... what, thickheadedness?  I see no logical reasoning from you, just a temper tantrum like a toddler who didn't get the candy bar they wanted.

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Why is everyone so pissed about paying for DLC? People pay $15 a month to play WoW for years on end but $10 for DLC is a joke? I don't get it, someone has to get paid for giving the customer what it wants. If the the DLC ending costs money and you don't want to pay, that just means you are stuck with the ending at face value and to be honest it was a complete ending to the game. I for one think $10 is nothing, if you whine about $10 then you can't afford xbox and you should be out getting a real job in stead of wasting time playing video games.

If they planned this all ahead of time and it's just sitting there waiting for time to pass before releasing and it costs money, that means EA had a hand in the busines model. That is what BW signed up with them for anyways, to market their games tenfold and make a profit on everything.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

I think what people find to be the hard pill to swallow is that if the IDT is in fact true, the endings are not truly the endings. What will happen to people who live in the Boonies and can't download DLC? WIll they never get to experience the real endings? What about people who aren't as invested as more diehard fans and won't even take note of DLC? How does that work? Do the endings still count for those people? What about all the dudes and dudettes who returned their games?

That and all the backlash they've received. Those are points I can understand being of debate. If IDT, they didn't sell us a full game out of the box. The DLC could still be free, but some people wouldn't be able to download it. Rare cases, I'm sure, but it's still probable they would never experience a true ending.


Hmm. The thing I see is that there is either an ending on the disk, or there isn't. It just depends on how you interpret that ending. And the thing about people not experiencing the dlc (that's a rather small minority) if you don't have some form of internet by now during 2012 then wtf are you doing? society almost dictates you have it. I doubt bioware is concerned with a super small majority.

If you sold the game before waiting to see what bioware had planned, that's your fault. You flipped out, ****ed, whined, cried and ultimately failed the test (that's if there even is one.) So if IDT is true and it was their plan.. it's your fault you sold the game (simple.) I think the point here people seem to forget is that it's Biowares game. They can do whatever the f*ck they please with it. They can change the ending, they can expand on it. Or do nothing about it. Not once when I was watching mass effect 3 adds did it say "wildly different choices/endings" there are no grounds for a lawsuit at all because there is "an ending" on the disc. Yes it isn't the ending we wanted... but too bad. X-Men the last stand wasn't the ending we wanted.. but did we all **** and cry and tell the director and writers to nullify their work and redo it? no.

Though I 100% believe Indoc theory was their plan. I'm 100% for their decision to give ending dlc or w/e. There is an ending to the game either way..whether through dlc or at face value.

It all goes back to "you can't make everyone happy" no matter what they do someone is gonna cry about it




Lol, oh boy... X-men. That's right up there with Lost.

But yeah, you're right. It's funny but I know a lot of people still rocking dial-up. It's sad, I know, but it's true. Like I said, it's still a minority.

I'm fine with DLC ending (will be pissed if we have to pay) I was just expressing my concerns on the matter. I would figure they would want to sell, sell, sell.


Oh my reply wasn't directed at you. It wasn't meant to insult or anything. You were expressing concerns and I was just stating my opinion about it really. didn't mean to look like a dick.

I'll be upset if we have to pay for the dlc ending too.

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... Huh. My renegade Shep told Joker that the Normandy's pilot seat was the closest he'd ever get to being inside his girlfriend. I guess I owe him two kinds of apologies then.



This sounds hilarious! Is there a video of this scene? I played paragon so never saw it.

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It works both ways. Maybe YOU are wrong? Did you ever think of that? FAN theories are not fact and never will be until confirmed by Bioware. I prefer to judge a game by what I bought and experienced, not a bunch of dumb theories to explain a crap ending. Paying extra for "true endings" would add insult to injury. I'll accept the current end... much better than the alternative.


Now you just sound like a butthurt individual with nothing constructive to say. I am now ignoring you. =]

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Rifneno wrote...

... Huh. My renegade Shep told Joker that the Normandy's pilot seat was the closest he'd ever get to being inside his girlfriend. I guess I owe him two kinds of apologies then.



This sounds hilarious! Is there a video of this scene? I played paragon so never saw it.


apparently EDI's body has a real vagina. someone posted a screenshot of it.

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Maximinn wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

... Huh. My renegade Shep told Joker that the Normandy's pilot seat was the closest he'd ever get to being inside his girlfriend. I guess I owe him two kinds of apologies then.


This sounds hilarious! Is there a video of this scene? I played paragon so never saw it.


Oh, sorry, I was just making a joke myself.  There's no such scene in-game.  :(

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njfluffy19 wrote...

Topsider wrote...


It works both ways. Maybe YOU are wrong? Did you ever think of that? FAN theories are not fact and never will be until confirmed by Bioware. I prefer to judge a game by what I bought and experienced, not a bunch of dumb theories to explain a crap ending. Paying extra for "true endings" would add insult to injury. I'll accept the current end... much better than the alternative.


Now you just sound like a butthurt individual with nothing constructive to say. I am now ignoring you. =]


That's because he is. This thread isn't made to **** about the ending. so if you want to do that go to the other threads.
Also your outrage shows your ability to civally construct an argument is severely flawed. So great in fact it is nonexistent. "I'm gonna **** about the endings and I'm not gonna pay for em, anyone who disagrees with me is dumb.. because I said so" GTFO chump if you're not gonna construct an argument with purpose.

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Why is everyone so pissed about paying for DLC? People pay $15 a month to play WoW for years on end but $10 for DLC is a joke? I don't get it, someone has to get paid for giving the customer what it wants. If the the DLC ending costs money and you don't want to pay, that just means you are stuck with the ending at face value and to be honest it was a complete ending to the game. I for one think $10 is nothing, if you whine about $10 then you can't afford xbox and you should be out getting a real job in stead of wasting time playing video games.

If they planned this all ahead of time and it's just sitting there waiting for time to pass before releasing and it costs money, that means EA had a hand in the busines model. That is what BW signed up with them for anyways, to market their games tenfold and make a profit on everything.


:?

As sad as it would make me, it's probably true... NooooOOOoooooOOOOoo!!!

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Rifneno wrote...

Maximinn wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

... Huh. My renegade Shep told Joker that the Normandy's pilot seat was the closest he'd ever get to being inside his girlfriend. I guess I owe him two kinds of apologies then.


This sounds hilarious! Is there a video of this scene? I played paragon so never saw it.


Oh, sorry, I was just making a joke myself.  There's no such scene in-game.  :(


LOL. I thought you were being serious, too. I was searching for it on youtube.

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It does sound like something renejerk broshep would say.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

benben84 wrote...

Why is everyone so pissed about paying for DLC? People pay $15 a month to play WoW for years on end but $10 for DLC is a joke? I don't get it, someone has to get paid for giving the customer what it wants. If the the DLC ending costs money and you don't want to pay, that just means you are stuck with the ending at face value and to be honest it was a complete ending to the game. I for one think $10 is nothing, if you whine about $10 then you can't afford xbox and you should be out getting a real job in stead of wasting time playing video games.

If they planned this all ahead of time and it's just sitting there waiting for time to pass before releasing and it costs money, that means EA had a hand in the busines model. That is what BW signed up with them for anyways, to market their games tenfold and make a profit on everything.


:?

As sad as it would make me, it's probably true... NooooOOOoooooOOOOoo!!!

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This one is better.

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