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i just saw while searching for a picture but someone sayed is it mearly a coincidence that edi in ME2 looks alot like the crucible before it "sheds" its outer shell (for lack of a better phrase). just thought it was interesting but cant see it factoring in the the ID theory

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balance5050 wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

bigstig wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

bigstig wrote...

I'm sad to say that I can disprove at least one aspect of the IT evidence.

Those shrubs and trees from the dream sequences that apparently appeared after you were hit by Harbringers blast are actually there they whole time.

There is still plenty evidence out there but this isn't sadly isn't one of them. I do have a picture but it was taken from an iPhone 3G so not the best quality.

Also when you do the run to the Conduit your crew mates stay at the top of the hill and do not follow you.


False, if you look behind you after being hit with Harby's beam, you trees that were not there before.


pictures are on their way in a minute. There are several trees and shrubs poking through the ground as you approch the Conduit.




Post pictures from before and after, if you can please :)


Please forgive the rather crappy pictures, was using my iPhone camera.
Picture 1(uploaded on twitter for speed) 
https://twitter.com/...8543106/photo/1 
Picture 2
(uploaded on twitter for speed) 
https://twitter.com/...4108544/photo/1 
Picture 2 (uploaded on twitter for speed) 
https://twitter.com/...5488768/photo/1 

I am not sure if I can get after pictures but I'll try.










Yeah, because there are more trees in the after pictures


After picture: 
https://twitter.com/...8320896/photo/1 

It looks like the same type of trees and bushes to me.  I still believe in the IT but at least for me the "dream trees" appearing after being hit evidence is inconclusive.

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

i just saw while searching for a picture but someone sayed is it mearly a coincidence that edi in ME2 looks alot like the crucible before it "sheds" its outer shell (for lack of a better phrase). just thought it was interesting but cant see it factoring in the the ID theory


Sorry you have lost me, the crucible looks like Edi from Mass Effect 2? How

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Thanks :)
They look very similar, but they do look more dream-like in the second picture. All I can think of is that the dreams are foreshadowing or something

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bigstig wrote...
After picture: 
https://twitter.com/...8320896/photo/1 

It looks like the same type of trees and bushes to me.  I still believe in the IT but at least for me the "dream trees" appearing after being hit evidence is inconclusive.


Agreed. Thanks for digging into that (somehow it's good to see we occasionally drop things from the IT support list).

Modifié par schneeland, 31 mars 2012 - 09:49 .


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Sorry for the crappy pictures, perhaps someone with a better camera can get clearer shots.

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Golferguy758 wrote...

Laurencio wrote...

This theory has so many holes in it is laughable. No offence, but you would have to be a fairly bad writer, with no concept of game mechanics and story arch for this to even remotely make sense. Not saying the ending was perfect, but this is like papering over the Battlestar Galactica references with gimmicks from Eternal Sunshine of a spotless mind and Inception.


Thank you for your feedback! What parts of the Indoctrination theory did you like? :)

Thanks for making me laugh :D

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ok now this makes no sense what so ever

when the crucible moves to dock with the citadel it enters through the arms/wards but the sharp bit of the citadel tower faced right down where it comes from but when the crucible docks with the citadel it doesn't connect with the sharp part but the flat part on the other side. how could that happen? how could the crucible end up on the other side of the presidium ring? i realy dont think that bioware would make big blunder like that...... or i realy hope not and here is a pic for referance. so what do you guys think? shody work or a clue

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also i may have confused how the tower looks so correct me if im wrong..... just saying

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I can't see the image :S

#26736
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ye it wont let the images stay when i post anybody know why?

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mass effect 3 crucible docking citadel

paste that into google images and there is one in the second row at the begining

and the first image on the page gives a good look at the tower from afar

Modifié par Falloutwarfare, 31 mars 2012 - 09:58 .


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Falloutwarfare wrote...

ye it wont let the images stay when i post anybody know why?


Your registration is too recent to allow pictures.

Send me the link and i will post it for you.

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Also debunked(at least from my experience) is the renegade scars reappearing after being hit by the laser

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http://www.xbox360ac...ad.php?t=361773

just go down the page till u see it thanx

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You know I think that Bioware made the fans the Reapers in the end. Think about it we are contrling Shepard through out the whole intier game, so why not let the fans chose what path Shepard must take at the end of the game. Bioware laid the fondation of IT theory, so that the Reapers in the game were indoctinating Shepard, and then when the time was right Bioware let us fans t

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bigstig wrote...

Also debunked(at least from my experience) is the renegade scars reappearing after being hit by the laser


I play a paragon and loads of scars appeared on my Shepard. The reason I'd put forward for that is that getting hit by a laser which was powerful enough to blast your armour to bits is probably going to damage your face a little bit.

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Sire Styx wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Also debunked(at least from my experience) is the renegade scars reappearing after being hit by the laser


I play a paragon and loads of scars appeared on my Shepard. The reason I'd put forward for that is that getting hit by a laser which was powerful enough to blast your armour to bits is probably going to damage your face a little bit.


Yes shep has brusing/blood on his/her face after being hit but it's not the scars you get for renegade actions.

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bigstig wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

bigstig wrote...

Also debunked(at least from my experience) is the renegade scars reappearing after being hit by the laser


I play a paragon and loads of scars appeared on my Shepard. The reason I'd put forward for that is that getting hit by a laser which was powerful enough to blast your armour to bits is probably going to damage your face a little bit.


Yes shep has brusing/blood on his/her face after being hit but it's not the scars you get for renegade actions.


Just after getting hit, they looked pretty orange to me.
(May have been a bug though)

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[quote]Sire Styx wrote...

[quote]bigstig wrote...

[quote]Sire Styx wrote...

[quote]bigstig wrote...

Also debunked(at least from my experience) is the renegade scars reappearing after being hit by the laser[/quote]

I play a paragon and loads of scars appeared on my Shepard. The reason I'd put forward for that is that getting hit by a laser which was powerful enough to blast your armour to bits is probably going to damage your face a little bit.

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Yes shep has brusing/blood on his/her face after being hit but it's not the scars you get for renegade actions.

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Just after getting hit, they looked pretty orange to me.
(May have been a bug though)

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Fair enough, just thought I'd post what happened to me.

I still believe in the IT though. perhaps not as much as I used to.

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

http://www.xbox360ac...ad.php?t=361773

just go down the page till u see it thanx


This picture is already in the first post of this thread.

If it is the Citadel/Crucible with the colored circles.

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Falloutwarfare wrote...

http://www.xbox360ac...ad.php?t=361773

just go down the page till u see it thanx


Ok I think I see what you mean.

i43.tinypic.com/344z4pf.png

Yeah, if the crucible comes through the arms then why is it behind....

Edit:
Hmm, I'm watching a video and I'm not sure now.

Edit2:
Ah, it enters from behind. The back bit opens up.

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Sire Styx, 31 mars 2012 - 10:20 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

Falloutwarfare wrote...

http://www.xbox360ac...ad.php?t=361773

just go down the page till u see it thanx


This picture is already in the first post of this thread.

If it is the Citadel/Crucible with the colored circles.


ye i was getting it from the compelety wrong perspective so iv wasted my own time and yours...... thank you brain

#26749
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no no no i just watched the docking thing and ithe crucible comes from the opposite side then magicaly changes what freeking angle its at what the hell?

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Off topic but I just wanted to share that's insanity done, only a few achievements left to get before I hit 100% on all Mass Effects.

I really really really hate Banshees and Phantoms. Anything with a one hit kill is a real pain in the ass.