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[waldstr18]

the question for the moment is: what will the developers say at pax next friday.

after that you can ask about the dlc release date.

[keith123456789]

I Really hope bioware will pull through

[Eshaye]

Kuraiken wrote...

Shepard never actually awoke from his contact with the beacon. Everything afterwards is but a vision of what may come and in the DLC we will awake on Eden Prime and realize that we have to find another way, that we have to alter fate.

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LOL.. Wow that would be the ultimate video game trolling of all time. ^_^
I sincerely doubt that would ever happen. 

[iwillkillfortali]

Dwailing wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

@kaliwillkillyou

thanks, i guess. but you dont know how right you are about the lucky part, because it was a gift, like nearly everything else i own. with that being said. i have no idea how good my graphics card is. so i dont know. is it way better than yours or just the next model?

what kind of graphics card you got?

he has a gtx 570 i have 3 gtx 275's

isn't a gtx 570 one of the top cards on the market?

The top card currently available is the AMD Radeon 7970.  Next tier in terms of single core GPUs would be the Nvidia GeForce 580, then below that would be the 570.  At least, that is a watered down version.

So is my GTX 275 garbage?

Well, it works for you, and in some ways the quality of your card is very much dependent on what YOU are comfortable playing at for resolutions, settings, frame rates, etc. in addition to what kinds of games you like to play.

Well in Battlefield 3 on my GPU I can max it out in Direct x 10 mode.

Modifié par iwillkillfortali, 01 avril 2012 - 01:26 .

[Dwailing]

keith123456789 wrote...

I Really hope bioware will pull through

Have some faith.  Since when have they actually FAILED us?  I mean, many thought multiplayer in ME3 would be horrible, and yet it is actually really fun and well designed.  Also, many thought the RPG aspects of ME3 would be so dumbed down it would be just another shooter, but look what we ended up with (not counting the endings if you take them at face value without SOME sort of other explanation).

[Dwailing]

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

iwillkillfortali wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

@kaliwillkillyou

thanks, i guess. but you dont know how right you are about the lucky part, because it was a gift, like nearly everything else i own. with that being said. i have no idea how good my graphics card is. so i dont know. is it way better than yours or just the next model?

what kind of graphics card you got?

he has a gtx 570 i have 3 gtx 275's

isn't a gtx 570 one of the top cards on the market?

The top card currently available is the AMD Radeon 7970.  Next tier in terms of single core GPUs would be the Nvidia GeForce 580, then below that would be the 570.  At least, that is a watered down version.

So is my GTX 275 garbage?

Well, it works for you, and in some ways the quality of your card is very much dependent on what YOU are comfortable playing at for resolutions, settings, frame rates, etc. in addition to what kinds of games you like to play.

Well in Battlefield 3 on my GPU I can max it out in Direct x 10 mode.

Well then, if you're comfortable without DX11, then it's fine for you.

[n00bsauce2010]

Dwailing wrote...

keith123456789 wrote...

I Really hope bioware will pull through

Have some faith.  Since when have they actually FAILED us?  I mean, many thought multiplayer in ME3 would be horrible, and yet it is actually really fun and well designed.  Also, many thought the RPG aspects of ME3 would be so dumbed down it would be just another shooter, but look what we ended up with (not counting the endings if you take them at face value without SOME sort of other explanation).

Dragon age 2......

[Dwailing]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

keith123456789 wrote...

I Really hope bioware will pull through

Have some faith.  Since when have they actually FAILED us?  I mean, many thought multiplayer in ME3 would be horrible, and yet it is actually really fun and well designed.  Also, many thought the RPG aspects of ME3 would be so dumbed down it would be just another shooter, but look what we ended up with (not counting the endings if you take them at face value without SOME sort of other explanation).

Dragon age 2......

I actually haven't played DA2, but I should point out that it WAS a different dev team.

Edit: I have played the demo, however, and I enjoyed what I played.

Modifié par Dwailing, 01 avril 2012 - 01:29 .

[iwillkillfortali]

Can everyone get back on topic?

[n00bsauce2010]

Dwailing wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

keith123456789 wrote...

I Really hope bioware will pull through

Have some faith.  Since when have they actually FAILED us?  I mean, many thought multiplayer in ME3 would be horrible, and yet it is actually really fun and well designed.  Also, many thought the RPG aspects of ME3 would be so dumbed down it would be just another shooter, but look what we ended up with (not counting the endings if you take them at face value without SOME sort of other explanation).

Dragon age 2......

I actually haven't played DA2, but I should point out that it WAS a different dev team.

Edit: I have played the demo, however, and I enjoyed what I played.

true. this particular team hasn't screwed up yet.. besides the endings (if at face value) but yeah

[Dwailing]

iwillkillfortali wrote...

Can everyone get back on topic?

Works for me, I was just, you know, contributing to the conversation at the time.

[Cucobr]

Kuraiken wrote...

The Problem with IT is, it pretty much bends everything to fit its needs. There's a lack of a satisfying ending,

I stopped read your text there.

IT isn't a ending, never was.

The Reapers still out there... the crucible still out there..

[Dwailing]

Cucobr wrote...

Kuraiken wrote...

The Problem with IT is, it pretty much bends everything to fit its needs. There's a lack of a satisfying ending,

I stopped read your text there.

IT isn't a ending, never was.

The Reapers still out there... the crucible still out there..

Wow, I could swear there was something like this earlier.  Might just be my imagination, though...

[Dendio1]

Just did another ending run from beginning to end of priority earth

On the one hand I can confirm there being trees and shrubs in the final run before harby beams you.

On the other hand I can say that the number of shrubs increase dramatically after you wake up. I can also confirm there being no shrubs whatsoever until harby arrives.

What do you guys think? At this point i just want the press release already

Modifié par Dendio1, 01 avril 2012 - 01:35 .

[Sire Styx]

Kuraiken wrote...

The Problem with IT is, it pretty much bends everything to fit its needs. There's a lack of a satisfying ending, so people go around and search for one because they don't want to settle for what they actually got.

I could make arguments about the entire sequence with the destruction of the ME Relays, and what they're there for if Shepards Decision pretty much already sealed the deal either way. And no matter what you choose, you destroy the reapers. If you destroy the reapers and thus "free yourself from their influence" why are they still creating an illusion, how come you still get that illusion?

But the point is, what we're arguing about is a force that alters perception and reality, and in that regard, *anything* can be utilized to confirm the theory, because you're trying to argue for its existence and prove it, instead of examining it.

Someone came up with it, lots of people decided to cling to it for various reasons (for example because it resonates better than the real ending) and now you have they same flawed and misdirected logical process that religions suffer from it. You don't step back and say: unlimited ammunition - game design decision to ensure that the player can win the scenes with higher probability - or take the dreams for what they are more likely - simply shepards conscience and stress - but instead you immediately accept it as supporting evidence for the theory. If you would actually take all these arguments for IT, look for a second possibility of why it is so, and then remove everything that may well be something else - then you end up with no positive argument.

So as long as people stick to bending it to the theory, because the theorie's nature allows to bend the arguments in its favor, you will only find confirmation if what you seek is confirmation.

Other viable alternatives:

Shepard completely overdid it and everything from the moment he awakes is actually a drug induced dream.

Shepard simply survived a drink that killed countless other people before him? Unrealistic. From that point on, he is trapped in a coma state, and his dying mind attempts to make sense of the world. The end of mass effect 3 is his decision to die, to let go, and the idea of world that he managed to save is his way of allowing himself to let go.

Shepard never actually awoke from his contact with the beacon. Everything afterwards is but a vision of what may come and in the DLC we will awake on Eden Prime and realize that we have to find another way, that we have to alter fate.

And so on, and so forth. As long as you're willing to base a theory on something that *alters* perception, you end up with something that can easily be confirmed by virtually anything. That hum James was hearing? Those were actually the medical machines keeping shepard alive. And Shepard knows that he will never wake up, and is stranded in his own world of illusions, so he searches and struggles for a way to allow himself to finally die. See? Very easy to bend everything to such a theory.

I know I said we should all reply with what ryuasiu said, but I feel the need to point out that your points have already been addressed earlier in this topic. Please read the entire thing before you comment again.

[Dwailing]

Dendio1 wrote...

Just did another ending run from beginning to end of priority earth

On the one hand I can confirm there being trees and shrubs in the final run before harby beams you.

On the other hand I can say that the number of shrubs increase dramatically after you wake up. I can also confirm there being no shrubs whatsoever until harby arrives.

What do you guys think? At this point i just want the press release already

Just hold the line a little longer, there wil be something on either the 6th or the 7th.

[Cucobr]

Dwailing wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

keith123456789 wrote...

I Really hope bioware will pull through

Have some faith.  Since when have they actually FAILED us?  I mean, many thought multiplayer in ME3 would be horrible, and yet it is actually really fun and well designed.  Also, many thought the RPG aspects of ME3 would be so dumbed down it would be just another shooter, but look what we ended up with (not counting the endings if you take them at face value without SOME sort of other explanation).

Dragon age 2......

I actually haven't played DA2, but I should point out that it WAS a different dev team.

Edit: I have played the demo, however, and I enjoyed what I played.

So dont play it.

Dragon Age 2 is... imagine dragon age:origin... good.. now cut of:
- New cities
- Carism
- personality of the characters.
- consistency in the story.
- your DA:O save... do not serve for anything.


Now add:
- better graphics
- You are forced to have a gay relationship in the game to make your party stronger. 

[Sire Styx]

Dendio1 wrote...

Just did another ending run from beginning to end of priority earth

On the one hand I can confirm there being trees and shrubs in the final run before harby beams you.

On the other hand I can say that the number of shrubs increase dramatically after you wake up. I can also confirm there being no shrubs whatsoever until harby arrives.

What do you guys think? At this point i just want the press release already

I believe harbinger was made from a race of creatures who were good gardeners. When harbinger shoots a laser out, it's actually shooting out fertiliser. It's causing plants to grow quickly. That's how the planets recover after each cycle, with the plants overtaking and removing evidence of all civilisation.

(but lol, yeah, I've heard several different things about the trees now. If they suddenly appear where they weren't before it suggests something odd, but if they were there before then I dunno. We need someone on PC to noclip [or whatever] and fly down there)

Modifié par Sire Styx, 01 avril 2012 - 01:41 .

[Kuraiken]

Cucobr wrote...

Kuraiken wrote...

The Problem with IT is, it pretty much bends everything to fit its needs. There's a lack of a satisfying ending,

I stopped read your text there.

IT isn't a ending, never was.

The Reapers still out there... the crucible still out there..

So Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 didn't have an ending either?
It's a shame you stopped there, otherwise you might have read some things that I considered important enough to waste my time to write them.

There's a certain point in any game and any book where you have an end. With a book, it's when you find no more pages. It doesn't matter if there's no ending in the story, the thing is finished. There may be a continuation in the future, but that doesn't change the fact that this particular book is closed. That after you wrap things up in ME1, you can't go on, even though the story continues in ME2.
 hat is what I've been talking about, and I'm sure you're more than clever enough to notice it, had you bothered enough to continue writing, instead of assuming that you - without continuing to read - knew everything my post was about.

My argument, paraphrased, is that due to the lack of a satisfying ending in ME3, people now cling to a theory, often attributing its "writing" to bioware, and hailing it as what is really going on, without actually examining it. I have no problem with the theory itself as an interesting theory - I like it. But it's not something that anyone can claim as the actual "ending that leads to ME3's true ending" because every evidence provided suffers from the issue I went to great lengths to describe in my earlier post.

Sire Styx wrote...
I know I said we should all reply with what ryuasiu said, but I feel the need to point out that your points have already been addressed earlier in this topic. Please read the entire thing before you comment again.

Ah yes, I should've mentioned that. Of course they were, but you'll find that the arguments that disprove them were disproved shortley afterward. Please read again through the entire thread, find those sections and quote them, and then quote the arguments that disprove them that I mentioned. Then we shall continue this discussion. =)

Modifié par Kuraiken, 01 avril 2012 - 01:43 .

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Eshaye wrote...

Kuraiken wrote...

Shepard never actually awoke from his contact with the beacon. Everything afterwards is but a vision of what may come and in the DLC we will awake on Eden Prime and realize that we have to find another way, that we have to alter fate.

.

LOL.. Wow that would be the ultimate video game trolling of all time. ^_^
I sincerely doubt that would ever happen. 

 Worked great for Mortal Kombat and a dream I had were Bioware announced a rebooted ME1 where characters from ME2/ME3 all somehow now had a part in the first game.Whcih now allowed for ME1 characters to be killed off early and story elements/missions were completly changed aside from fighting geth/other enemies.

[Gudmoore]

Feels like we're sliding a little off topic..

[n00bsauce2010]

Sire Styx wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Just did another ending run from beginning to end of priority earth

On the one hand I can confirm there being trees and shrubs in the final run before harby beams you.

On the other hand I can say that the number of shrubs increase dramatically after you wake up. I can also confirm there being no shrubs whatsoever until harby arrives.

What do you guys think? At this point i just want the press release already

I believe harbinger was made from a race of creatures who were good gardeners. When harbinger shoots a laser out, it's actually shooting out fertiliser. It's causing plants to grow quickly. That's how the planets recover after each cycle, with the plants overtaking and removing evidence of all civilisation.

(but lol, yeah, I've heard several different things about the trees now. If they suddenly appear where they weren't before it suggests something odd, but if they were there before then I dunno. We need someone on PC to noclip [or whatever] and fly down there)

Harbingers real name should be "Scotts" maybe even "Miracle Gro"

[Dendio1]

Dwailing wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Just did another ending run from beginning to end of priority earth

On the one hand I can confirm there being trees and shrubs in the final run before harby beams you.

On the other hand I can say that the number of shrubs increase dramatically after you wake up. I can also confirm there being no shrubs whatsoever until harby arrives.

What do you guys think? At this point i just want the press release already

Just hold the line a little longer, there wil be something on either the 6th or the 7th.

Feels like years...since I just...sat down....

[Hacedor1566]

Dragon Age 2 fails at the start (well, i actually enjoyed it, but that's not the point). In ME3 we see a very good game, with an amazing story that, suddenly, fails at the end. The entire game is awesome... The "fleet arrives" scene made ​​me up from my chair and say ...We are here, reaper bastards, and we are coming for you!

And then, in the climax... Everything disappears. So, yes, IT is weak, very weak. But the actual ending goes against all logic. And that's, precisly, the strongest evidence for IT. I don't like IT, the "all was a dream" explanation is poor, an even absurd, but... The ending i have seen have no sense, I cannot belive that Bioware, the people who have created this amazing game, have created this ending too.

[ky0dar]

New ending theory.
The whole saga is the dying dream of Richard L Jenkins.