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[Sire Styx]

SirLugash wrote...

April Fool here we go
http://www.trueachie...t-3s-ending.htm

Lmao.

[Falloutwarfare]

@SirLugash LOL!! I realy didnt think they would make a ending that fits without indoc shepard but

"After defeating the bulk of the Reaper forces by activating the Crucible, Shepard looks to Earth and sees that there are still Reaper variants fighting on the ground. When EDI asks what Shepard is doing, he grimly replies, "Finishing the fight," then leaps towards the burning planet."

it seems stupid yet totaly badass........... would be better if shep just kills all reapers, smokes a cigar and says "I love it when a plan comes together"

Modifié par Falloutwarfare, 01 avril 2012 - 04:50 .

[Mcfly616]

byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

This may have been mentioned before (I've been keeping up with this thread pretty well, but not all 1084 pages), but I think there's a small chance that BioWare's lack of clarification about the whole "not possible to get 4000 EMS in single player alone" thing has to do with indoc theory.

Basically, whatever the max is that you can get now (3700 or something like that) will be all you need in the "real" ending, and they made it so only those who played MP as well can get the teaser that links to said real ending. (makes sense that one would have to do pretty much EVERYTHING possible in the game to get that little breathing scene)

In so many words, when Shep breaks the indoctrination, EMS will still matter, but not as much in the true final battle. But BioWare isn't clarifying anything because of what they have planned. It's kind of brilliant in a way, making sure that not everyone gets the breathing scene in order to increase the mystery.

Hopefully some of you get what I'm saying. Maybe someone with a better way with words can try and explain what I mean if you get it.

So you're basically saying that beating the game with high EMS gives you the teaser scene that points to more content to come, kind of the way beating Halo 3 on Legendary got you the cutscene pointing to Halo 4, but no matter what difficulty you beat the game on you can still play Halo 4 when it comes out?

I could get behind that.

I've been saying this for awhile but nobody seems to get it....

The "breathe" scene is an Easter egg of sorts....but that doesnt mean its not canon.....halo 3 ending scene, the stipulation to seeing it is beating it on the hardest difficulty and its still Canon...

The stipulation for the breathe scene in ME3 is having a high EMS, and making the choice you set out to make back in ME1: Destroy the Reapers...

It's quite possible he wakes up no matter what you choose....just have to meet the requirements to see it....

Just cuz its an Easter egg, doesn't mean its not canon

Example: Halo 3

[Baldsake]

SirLugash wrote...

April Fool here we go
http://www.trueachie...t-3s-ending.htm

Still better than what we've got now.

[Sire Styx]

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Oh the kid is real. Everybody is too busy around him to notice, except maybe the soldier who close the door after him. His death was just the Catalyst (ok, that was a bit easy ) that starts the annoying nightmare scenes...

I like how you provided nothing but your own say-so as basis for matter-of-factly confirming that he's real.
 

Bonus points for chastising people in the next post about not providing evidence! Epic lol's.

Shepard, looking at the windows, see the kid playing with a toy fighter. Then he talks to him in the air duct scene.
He indoctrinated these as well?

The kid may be real then. It's the fact that the kid manages to fly across the city, into a locked building and survive a laser bast that we find more than a little bit odd.

[Big Bad]

Apropos of nothing (other than a post from the last page), I really wish the word "pastie" could be added to the everyday American English lexicon. Doing so, IMHO, would instantly make this country 20% more awesome!

[JTP117]

byne wrote...

ConVito wrote...

This may have been mentioned before (I've been keeping up with this thread pretty well, but not all 1084 pages), but I think there's a small chance that BioWare's lack of clarification about the whole "not possible to get 4000 EMS in single player alone" thing has to do with indoc theory.

Basically, whatever the max is that you can get now (3700 or something like that) will be all you need in the "real" ending, and they made it so only those who played MP as well can get the teaser that links to said real ending. (makes sense that one would have to do pretty much EVERYTHING possible in the game to get that little breathing scene)

In so many words, when Shep breaks the indoctrination, EMS will still matter, but not as much in the true final battle. But BioWare isn't clarifying anything because of what they have planned. It's kind of brilliant in a way, making sure that not everyone gets the breathing scene in order to increase the mystery.

Hopefully some of you get what I'm saying. Maybe someone with a better way with words can try and explain what I mean if you get it.

So you're basically saying that beating the game with high EMS gives you the teaser scene that points to more content to come, kind of the way beating Halo 3 on Legendary got you the cutscene pointing to Halo 4, but no matter what difficulty you beat the game on you can still play Halo 4 when it comes out?

I could get behind that.

It's certainly a good idea. It makes people invest more time and effort into the game to earn a glimpse of what's to come. Did we know what that meant when we beat Halo 3? Nope, for years we thought that that's just how they decided to end the trillogy which spawned many threads on what it really ment (just like IT has). Now we just need to wait and see what happens. Luckily our wait for ME3 info is much shorter than it took for Halo 4 to be announced

[byne]

Sire Styx wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Oh the kid is real. Everybody is too busy around him to notice, except maybe the soldier who close the door after him. His death was just the Catalyst (ok, that was a bit easy ) that starts the annoying nightmare scenes...

I like how you provided nothing but your own say-so as basis for matter-of-factly confirming that he's real.
 

Bonus points for chastising people in the next post about not providing evidence! Epic lol's.

Shepard, looking at the windows, see the kid playing with a toy fighter. Then he talks to him in the air duct scene.
He indoctrinated these as well?

The kid may be real then. It's the fact that the kid manages to fly across the city, into a locked building and survive a laser bast that we find more than a little bit odd.

I still find it interesting that the very first time we see the kid, we're being misled. You think you're seeing an alliance fighter flying, but then you realize its just a toy.

Seems like a subtle way of saying not to take the kid at face value.

[byne]

Big Bad wrote...

Apropos of nothing (other than a post from the last page), I really wish the word "pastie" could be added to the everyday American English lexicon. Doing so, IMHO, would instantly make this country 20% more awesome!

We have pasties in the American English lexicon. That what we call those stick on patches that cover a woman's nipples.

The moar you know!

[Sire Styx]

byne wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Oh the kid is real. Everybody is too busy around him to notice, except maybe the soldier who close the door after him. His death was just the Catalyst (ok, that was a bit easy ) that starts the annoying nightmare scenes...

I like how you provided nothing but your own say-so as basis for matter-of-factly confirming that he's real.
 

Bonus points for chastising people in the next post about not providing evidence! Epic lol's.

Shepard, looking at the windows, see the kid playing with a toy fighter. Then he talks to him in the air duct scene.
He indoctrinated these as well?

The kid may be real then. It's the fact that the kid manages to fly across the city, into a locked building and survive a laser bast that we find more than a little bit odd.

I still find it interesting that the very first time we see the kid, we're being misled. You think you're seeing an alliance fighter flying, but then you realize its just a toy.

Seems like a subtle way of saying not to take the kid at face value.

That's an interesting point....

[MasterDracoStoc]

Thank you byne for all your hard work in bringing hope to us. I've been lurking on the forums since the 9th when I beat the game and you and all the other founders of Indoc. Theory gave me hope after the shock of the endings.

[Big Bad]

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Apropos of nothing (other than a post from the last page), I really wish the word "pastie" could be added to the everyday American English lexicon. Doing so, IMHO, would instantly make this country 20% more awesome!

We have pasties in the American English lexicon. That what we call those stick on patches that cover a woman's nipples.

The moar you know!

LOL.  Thank you, I needed a good laugh this morning!

[Sire Styx]

byne wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Apropos of nothing (other than a post from the last page), I really wish the word "pastie" could be added to the everyday American English lexicon. Doing so, IMHO, would instantly make this country 20% more awesome!

We have pasties in the American English lexicon. That what we call those stick on patches that cover a woman's nipples.

The moar you know!

I can't even think of a reply to this lol. Such wildly different meanings for the word 'Pastie' lmao.

[n00bsauce2010]

You mean like boobie tassles?

[Rifneno]

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Shepard, looking at the windows, see the kid playing with a toy fighter. Then he talks to him in the air duct scene.
He indoctrinated these as well?

If you'd read more than...  nothing I guess, you'd know that the general theory is yes, he was.  In fact the air duct one is far more suspicious than the shuttle scene where no one seems to see him.  First the kid goes into the building which is quickly demolished by a Reaper and is mysteriously unscathed.  Second, his dialogue to Shepard, "You can't save me" is just sinister and foreboding.  After he says that, Shepard is distracted by Anderson.  When this happens, a growl can be heard.  No, it is not coming from the Reapers outside and if you have surround sound you can tell that it comes from all channels, unlike almost everything else happening.  The tie-in?  When Paul Grayson gets distracted from a Reaper manifestation in the novels, there's a growl from the annoyed Reaper.  Speaking of sound, when Shepard looks back the kid is gone.  Vanished like a ghost.  Oh I know, "he left through the vents".  Except the very thing that got Shepard's attention to him is the sound of him crawling around the ducts and all the racket that makes.  Which is completely absent from his disappearing act.  Boy, those sound effects guys must really be dropping the ball! 

[n00bsauce2010]

The child in the opening sequence is not real. If you notice.. as soon as the shuttle lands, soldiers come out and they acknowledge everyone by telling them to come on the shuttle. If you notice there is an injured civillian.. and guess what? there is an alliance soldier helping him aboard. Also there are lone soldiers just standing inside the shuttle when it lands.. doing nothing. The boy is not real... and if he was they would've acknowledged him and helped him on board. Go watch the video if you don't believe me.

[Quahtli]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

The child in the opening sequence is not real. If you notice.. as soon as the shuttle lands, soldiers come out and they acknowledge everyone by telling them to come on the shuttle. If you notice there is an injured civillian.. and guess what? there is an alliance soldier helping him aboard. Also there are lone soldiers just standing inside the shuttle when it lands.. doing nothing. The boy is not real... and if he was they would've acknowledged him and helped him on board. Go watch the video if you don't believe me.

Also, he was voiced by the same actor that voiced the Illusive Man.

[n00bsauce2010]

Quahtli wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

The child in the opening sequence is not real. If you notice.. as soon as the shuttle lands, soldiers come out and they acknowledge everyone by telling them to come on the shuttle. If you notice there is an injured civillian.. and guess what? there is an alliance soldier helping him aboard. Also there are lone soldiers just standing inside the shuttle when it lands.. doing nothing. The boy is not real... and if he was they would've acknowledged him and helped him on board. Go watch the video if you don't believe me.

Also, he was voiced by the same actor that voiced the Illusive Man.

the child was voiced by martin sheen? huh?

[schneeland]

Sire Styx wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

April Fool here we go
http://www.trueachie...t-3s-ending.htm

Lmao.

Quite nice. The third one, in particular, is really well done

[Shooter__Andy]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...
the child was voiced by martin sheen? huh?

This is just... surreal.

[Dendio1]

Sire Styx wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

3Minotaur3 wrote...

Oh the kid is real. Everybody is too busy around him to notice, except maybe the soldier who close the door after him. His death was just the Catalyst (ok, that was a bit easy ) that starts the annoying nightmare scenes...

I like how you provided nothing but your own say-so as basis for matter-of-factly confirming that he's real.
 

Bonus points for chastising people in the next post about not providing evidence! Epic lol's.

Shepard, looking at the windows, see the kid playing with a toy fighter. Then he talks to him in the air duct scene.
He indoctrinated these as well?

The kid may be real then. It's the fact that the kid manages to fly across the city, into a locked building and survive a laser bast that we find more than a little bit odd.

Dont forget the danger: electrified vent warning label outside the vent the kid was in

[spz123]

You put the vent scene together with the shuttle where noone appears to notice or indeed help him, then it makes it really obvious that this kid isn't really there. I mean, it stood out to me when I first played the demo that something was amiss.

To disappear into the vent, the kid would either need to crawl backwards or somehow turn around in the vent. Not going to do that either quickly or without sound. Of course the denial to this is "lazy programming/storytelling" which seems to be the counter to everything.

[Quahtli]

Before this is going to get out of hand, the child being voiced by martin sheen, today is april fools!

[n00bsauce2010]

spz123 wrote...

You put the vent scene together with the shuttle where noone appears to notice or indeed help him, then it makes it really obvious that this kid isn't really there. I mean, it stood out to me when I first played the demo that something was amiss.

To disappear into the vent, the kid would either need to crawl backwards or somehow turn around in the vent. Not going to do that either quickly or without sound. Of course the denial to this is "lazy programming/storytelling" which seems to be the counter to everything.

Exactly. I noticed how wierd it seemed in the demo. There are no abrubt vent sounds when the boy would've crawled backwards in the vent. But those noises are what tell shepard the boy is there in the first place. And the fact that the child says "everyone is dieing, and you can't save me" is just wierd in itself. He isn't real - its just that simple.

During the end of that opening sequence.. if you notice, like i stated just a few posts up. The alliance soldiers are acknowledging everyone. And there is an alliance soldier helping an injured civillian onboard. So that would make me think that the other soldier would've done the same thing with the boy (if he was real, but he isn't) Go watch it if you don't believe me. There is also a lone soldier just standing inside the shuttle looking outwards (according to his stance) so if he saw the boy he would've helped him.. but obviously the kid isn't real.

Modifié par n00bsauce2010, 01 avril 2012 - 05:56 .

[Joukahainen]

Reapers were made by Dalek´s ... Explains everything