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[njfluffy19]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I'm kind of down right now After beating ME3 I felt kinda numb for a while... now the sadness starts.. sadness that the trilogy is finished, that Shep's story is over.. I really should stop listening to "Vigil".. *sob*

I will console you with this:

[schneeland]

[quote]Jaxitty wrote...

[quote]schneeland wrote...

[quote]n00bsauce2010 wrote...

[...]

And how does Shepard fit into it? Personally I think the Reapers want Synthesis but don't know how to achieve it. TIM was manipulated into thinking his research initiatives would offer Control whilst unknowingly doing the necessary research to bring about Synthesis. I think TIM figured all along that he could manipulate/control the Reapers right up until the end. It was only then that he realized he was indoctrinated and couldn't control the reapers, even with all of his technology and implants. So he needed Shepard to do it in the end because Shep wasn't indoctrinated (although the Reapers were attempting it on him.).

Yeah, that was a brain dump. Just throwin it out there! Feel free to ignore. [/quote]

The reapers are a product of synthesis though. They know how to achieve it. they turn the most valuable species during each cycle into a reaper core (ex: human reaper) and then it is the basis for a capital ship or a destroyer.

[/quote]

Well, the problem I have with that, is that
a) I am unclear about what the reapers gain through synthesis
 I still don't believe its anywhere near possible if you don't consider cyborgs like Shepard the product of synthesis.

[/quote]

They're kinda like the borg? They add this cycles uniqueness to their own, therefor giving themselves an edge. Considering the original story reason the Reapers were doing this, was to gain an edge to discover how to stop Dark Energy from mad bombering the stars un our galaxy.

Why they would want it now, not so sure, unless it's just the perfection goal...

[/quote]

Theoretically yes, but then we just follow "their path" with the Mass Relays. And it's not like humans have really more advancted tech than the reapers.

[CheesieOnion]

EpyonX3 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Rifneno wrote...



This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.



End_Choice_BadA_01.

Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.

I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.

I <3 U!!!!

Doesn't prove the theory, but it does give a HUGE hint.

Can someone check the tube you shoot for the destory ending and the model name?

EDIT: To late.

There are good and bad endings to both the Control and the Destroy option.

I know but the object for the Control ending is called bad, and the objects doesn't differ if the conttrol ending turns out bad.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

What are the names of the stuff from the other options? Is there something such as End_Choice_Good?

[Big G13]

 I've been following this forum for about a week now and I am impressed that, for the most part, the conversation has remained civil. Thats hard to find anywhere these days. And the arguments are well thought out. I'd like to get opinions, civil or other wise, on a few thoughts.
  First, I like this IDT. Not so much the question of is Shepard indoctrinated or not but rather the focus IDT puts on the epic mental battle that is going on at the same time as the physical one. Honestly, before the bad ending I never gave it much thought. Because of the bad ending I went looking for answers, found this forum, and now the mental battle is all I think about. Mass Effect is the first RPG I've ever played. Is it possible that the weird, " I'm having a night mare" ending, and the time that has passed since, was planned to forever stamp ME as an RPG that is as much about the mental as the physical? I don't know enough about the gaming industry to know if that thought is in any way practical.
  Second, the first time I heard the god brat say, ' The created will always rebel against the creator', I thought, holy crap! what ever is behind the reapers created organic life as well. The ending from that perspective makes more sense to me. It doesn't make it any better, it just makes more sense. A selfish, vindictive, god brat showing up every 50k years to destroy advanced organic life before it becomes powerful enough to kill it. It also makes the god brat's reference to the Quarians and the Geth more understandable. Thoughts?

[attack vector]

OK... So I'm posting here for the first time.
After reviewing all of the evidence compiled by the fans. I was compelled to go back and start playing ME3 again, even though I told myself I wouldn't. (endgame rage)... and I have to say. I'm now a beleiver. I agree that Shepard never leaves London after being hit with the beam.

But i'm not here to discuss details. My concern goes beyond the "are you / are you not" indoctrinated theory. It has to do with the fact that the real ending has yet to come. If that ends up taking the forum of another FULL $60 retail game developed to extend the Mass Effect Universe, I'll admit... that while the wait would be AGONIZING... I would at least be on board with that. However... based on that que you get upon compleition... I have the feeling that the REAL ending will come in the form of DLC. Which is fine... however if they charge for that DLC, that would be horrible and quite possibly the biggest slap to the face I could imagine for the fans.

I'm just saying... I can see this happening... and I don't like it.

[balance5050]

attack vector wrote...

OK... So I'm posting here for the first time.
After reviewing all of the evidence compiled by the fans. I was compelled to go back and start playing ME3 again, even though I told myself I wouldn't. (endgame rage)... and I have to say. I'm now a beleiver. I agree that Shepard never leaves London after being hit with the beam.

But i'm not here to discuss details. My concern goes beyond the "are you / are you not" indoctrinated theory. It has to do with the fact that the real ending has yet to come. If that ends up taking the forum of another FULL $60 retail game developed to extend the Mass Effect Universe, I'll admit... that while the wait would be AGONIZING... I would at least be on board with that. However... based on that que you get upon compleition... I have the feeling that the REAL ending will come in the form of DLC. Which is fine... however if they charge for that DLC, that would be horrible and quite possibly the biggest slap to the face I could imagine for the fans.

I'm just saying... I can see this happening... and I don't like it.

Not ME4, DLC.

[khyvari]

Kill-Joy above requested:
Please reflect on the final Citadel scene, with corpses and blood rivers and all

Gladly:

Remember, before Hercules can enter the Underworld he must die and be reborn, (Eleusisian Mysteries). Shepard has already undergone his "Eleusisian Mystery" in ME2 so he "knows" how to do it. The chasm is crossing the "River Styx", the separation between Earth and the Underworld. Charon is the ferryman charged with bringing the newly dead over the river and into the Underworld. Once there, Hercules must defeat Cerberus without a weapon. Once Cercerus falls, Charon will conduct Hercules back across the River Styx, back to Earth. The banks of the River Styx is littered with the corpses of those who did not pass their test.

[CheesieOnion]

attack vector wrote...

OK... So I'm posting here for the first time.
After reviewing all of the evidence compiled by the fans. I was compelled to go back and start playing ME3 again, even though I told myself I wouldn't. (endgame rage)... and I have to say. I'm now a beleiver. I agree that Shepard never leaves London after being hit with the beam.

But i'm not here to discuss details. My concern goes beyond the "are you / are you not" indoctrinated theory. It has to do with the fact that the real ending has yet to come. If that ends up taking the forum of another FULL $60 retail game developed to extend the Mass Effect Universe, I'll admit... that while the wait would be AGONIZING... I would at least be on board with that. However... based on that que you get upon compleition... I have the feeling that the REAL ending will come in the form of DLC. Which is fine... however if they charge for that DLC, that would be horrible and quite possibly the biggest slap to the face I could imagine for the fans.

I'm just saying... I can see this happening... and I don't like it.

I'm also a believer of the IT, just because I can't believe Bioware can just **** the ending up from nowhere and make al these mistakes, when they made 2,9 excellent games.

[EpyonX3]

CheesieOnion wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Rifneno wrote...



This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.



End_Choice_BadA_01.

Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.

I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.

I <3 U!!!!

Doesn't prove the theory, but it does give a HUGE hint.

Can someone check the tube you shoot for the destory ending and the model name?

EDIT: To late.

There are good and bad endings to both the Control and the Destroy option.

I know but the object for the Control ending is called bad, and the objects doesn't differ if the conttrol ending turns out bad.

Well that is interesting.

Still doesn't explain why peices in the breathe scene are the same that are in the room.

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Look at this video. Shepard was definitely on the Citadel.

Why would earth material be on the citadel and why would he be buried under it.There was some video pointing out that their's actual a car or building in the far back.

[CheesieOnion]

attack vector wrote...

OK... So I'm posting here for the first time.
After reviewing all of the evidence compiled by the fans. I was compelled to go back and start playing ME3 again, even though I told myself I wouldn't. (endgame rage)... and I have to say. I'm now a beleiver. I agree that Shepard never leaves London after being hit with the beam.

But i'm not here to discuss details. My concern goes beyond the "are you / are you not" indoctrinated theory. It has to do with the fact that the real ending has yet to come. If that ends up taking the forum of another FULL $60 retail game developed to extend the Mass Effect Universe, I'll admit... that while the wait would be AGONIZING... I would at least be on board with that. However... based on that que you get upon compleition... I have the feeling that the REAL ending will come in the form of DLC. Which is fine... however if they charge for that DLC, that would be horrible and quite possibly the biggest slap to the face I could imagine for the fans.

I'm just saying... I can see this happening... and I don't like it.

I'm also a believer of the IT, just because I can't believe Bioware can just f*ck up the ending from nowhere this bad when they made 2,9 excellent games.

Modifié par CheesieOnion, 02 avril 2012 - 06:54 .

[balance5050]

LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Look at this video. Shepard was definitely on the Citadel.

Why would earth material be on the citadel and why would he be buried under it.There was some video pointing out that their's actual a car or building in the far back.

Yeah, it's Earth, people are crazy.

[Angmir]

Hey people - just checking in - any news from the front lines ?

Its April after all - a month of great revelations !!

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

CheesieOnion wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Rifneno wrote...



This is the thing you use for the control ending. Look at those pillars between the electricity. Got a good look? Okay.



End_Choice_BadA_01.

Since we already had a fake of a similar image, don't take my word for it. Go download UE Viewer, it's freeware, and check for yourselves.

I cannot wait to hear the theory opponents explain this.

I <3 U!!!!

Doesn't prove the theory, but it does give a HUGE hint.

Can someone check the tube you shoot for the destory ending and the model name?

EDIT: To late.

There are good and bad endings to both the Control and the Destroy option.

I know but the object for the Control ending is called bad, and the objects doesn't differ if the conttrol ending turns out bad.

Can anyone that able to look into the destroy asset for more clues.

[nyrocron]

List of mesh files in the End002_Space scene: http://pastebin.com/iW0Mw7Q1

Choice related:

End_ChoiceArm_01.pskx
End_ChoiceHut_01.pskx
End_ChoiceLight_01.pskx
End_ChoiceTubeMid_01.pskx
End_ChoiceTubeUpper_01.pskx
End_ChoiceUnderArm_01.pskx
End_Choice_BadA_01.pskx
End_Choice_Tube_Clean_01.pskx

Modifié par nyrocron, 02 avril 2012 - 07:01 .

[lex0r11]

njfluffy19 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I'm kind of down right now After beating ME3 I felt kinda numb for a while... now the sadness starts.. sadness that the trilogy is finished, that Shep's story is over.. I really should stop listening to "Vigil".. *sob*

I will console you with this:

[n00bsauce2010]

khyvari wrote...

Kill-Joy above requested:
Please reflect on the final Citadel scene, with corpses and blood rivers and all

Gladly:

Remember, before Hercules can enter the Underworld he must die and be reborn, (Eleusisian Mysteries). Shepard has already undergone his "Eleusisian Mystery" in ME2 so he "knows" how to do it. The chasm is crossing the "River Styx", the separation between Earth and the Underworld. Charon is the ferryman charged with bringing the newly dead over the river and into the Underworld. Once there, Hercules must defeat Cerberus without a weapon. Once Cercerus falls, Charon will conduct Hercules back across the River Styx, back to Earth. The banks of the River Styx is littered with the corpses of those who did not pass their test.

Makes sense. Does this support the IDT?
Are you saying shepard being back on earth is fufillment of this underworld journey.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I'm kind of down right now After beating ME3 I felt kinda numb for a while... now the sadness starts.. sadness that the trilogy is finished, that Shep's story is over.. I really should stop listening to "Vigil".. *sob*

I will console you with this:

oh god.... what if...

... the godchild was sandal???

[byne]

I recall reading in another thread that the audio files for the conversation you have with Liara after one of your kid dreams is named "norcat_dream2"

Anyone who knows how to extract the files wanna confirm that for me?

Cause you could theoretically read "norcat_dream2" as "Normandy Catalyst Dream 2", which would be interesting.

[balance5050]

byne wrote...

I recall reading in another thread that the audio files for the conversation you have with Liara after one of your kid dreams is named "norcat_dream2"

Anyone who knows how to extract the files wanna confirm that for me?

Cause you could theoretically read "norcat_dream2" as "Normandy Catalyst Dream 2", which would be interesting.

Yes, more speculation needs to be done on these sound files.

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...

I recall reading in another thread that the audio files for the conversation you have with Liara after one of your kid dreams is named "norcat_dream2"

Anyone who knows how to extract the files wanna confirm that for me?

Cause you could theoretically read "norcat_dream2" as "Normandy Catalyst Dream 2", which would be interesting.

Yes, more speculation needs to be done on these sound files.

Lots of speculation! From everyone!

[maxloef]

byne wrote...

I recall reading in another thread that the audio files for the conversation you have with Liara after one of your kid dreams is named "norcat_dream2"

Anyone who knows how to extract the files wanna confirm that for me?

Cause you could theoretically read "norcat_dream2" as "Normandy Catalyst Dream 2", which would be interesting.

speculation for everyone!

but very intersting indeed

[njfluffy19]

byne wrote...

I recall reading in another thread that the audio files for the conversation you have with Liara after one of your kid dreams is named "norcat_dream2"

Anyone who knows how to extract the files wanna confirm that for me?

Cause you could theoretically read "norcat_dream2" as "Normandy Catalyst Dream 2", which would be interesting.

What could it mean? Lots of speculation from everyone?

But we do already know that the kid is the Catalyst. Well, according to his mouth anyway. You can't really trust him as far as you can throw him, considering he basically tells you you'll die with the Destroy option. Actually, negative on the throwing. Shep could probably chuck that kid pretty far.