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[njfluffy19]

schneeland wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

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A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

Well, I would love another 10 hours of gameplay (took about 40 for the game we currently have), but my gut feeling tells me that won't happen. I'd rather expect 1.5 - 2 hours of "finish the fight" gameplay.
And then, of course, Omega DLC, additional multiplay map DLC, new fish DLC, toys for space hamster DLC ...

[fistandan77]

I feel the IT theory can be picked to pieces (almost as badly as the actual endings) BUT I'll support it any way since the idea of Shepard waking up in London and continuing the fight in DLC (hopefully free) is our best chance at a decent resolution.

I hope Bioware pick it up and go with it.

[Sire Styx]

By the way, have we thought of an explanation for the cables in the ending when Shepard wakes up?

[waldstr18]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

[...]
A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

what do you know?! tell me! tell me! tell me now!

uhm... i ment, how are you, sir? any news on the upcoming dlc?

[n00bsauce2010]

Sire Styx wrote...

By the way, have we thought of an explanation for the cables in the ending when Shepard wakes up?

rebar.

[khyvari]

@Ms_Alison_Gunn:

Me either. But here is an interesting tidbit from the same myth: Originally there were 10 labors, 2 were "thrown out" because Eurystheus thought Hercules cheated. One of the labors he chucked out was cleaning the Augean stables (the 5th labor) because Hercules accepted payment for the job. He added two extra labors as a result, the trip to the Underworld to deal with Cerberus was one of the extra labors. Anyway, most of what is here on this thread is fun to talk and think about and I am enjoying my time here.

[njfluffy19]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

By the way, have we thought of an explanation for the cables in the ending when Shepard wakes up?

rebar.

I used to be the first Human Spectre...

...and then I took a rebar to the knee.

I know, I know.

[Either.Ardrey]

Sire Styx wrote...

By the way, have we thought of an explanation for the cables in the ending when Shepard wakes up?

The thought that they were cables never crossed my mind because they are too straight/stiff. I had always thought it was rebar, the most common identification on this thread.

[CheesieOnion]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...
A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

Than I still want to know why they decided to cut out the end from the ACTUAL game, it just makes no logical sense, only from the bussiness's perspective. 

Btw, interessting thing I found on the Theory Crafting Forum:

Id like to add another thing about the soundtrack. I've already pointed out that the end song "An End, Once and For All" definately doesn't sound like an ending, it finishes by building up to something. Now consider the names on the track.
22-An End, Once and For All23-Credits24-Betrayal25-Creation
Betrayal? Creation? Why are they located after the end and the credits? My guess is they are related to upcoming continuation of the ending, either left there by mistake or as a clue.

[CheesieOnion]

CheesieOnion wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...
A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

Than I still want to know why they decided to cut out the end from the ACTUAL game, it just makes no logical sense, only from the bussiness's perspective. 

Btw, interessting thing I found on the Theory Crafting Forum:

Id like to add another thing about the soundtrack. I've already pointed out that the end song "An End, Once and For All" definately doesn't sound like an ending, it finishes by building up to something. Now consider the names on the track.
22-An End, Once and For All
23-Credits
24-Betrayal
25-Creation
Betrayal? Creation? Why are they located after the end and the credits? My guess is they are related to upcoming continuation of the ending, either left there by mistake or as a clue.

[n00bsauce2010]

CheesieOnion wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...
A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

Than I still want to know why they decided to cut out the end from the ACTUAL game, it just makes no logical sense, only from the bussiness's perspective. 

Btw, interessting thing I found on the Theory Crafting Forum:

Id like to add another thing about the soundtrack. I've already pointed out that the end song "An End, Once and For All" definately doesn't sound like an ending, it finishes by building up to something. Now consider the names on the track.
22-An End, Once and For All
23-Credits
24-Betrayal
25-Creation
Betrayal? Creation? Why are they located after the end and the credits? My guess is they are related to upcoming continuation of the ending, either left there by mistake or as a clue.

you must really like your post lol.

[CheesieOnion]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...
A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

Than I still want to know why they decided to cut out the end from the ACTUAL game, it just makes no logical sense, only from the bussiness's perspective. 

Btw, interessting thing I found on the Theory Crafting Forum:

Id like to add another thing about the soundtrack. I've already pointed out that the end song "An End, Once and For All" definately doesn't sound like an ending, it finishes by building up to something. Now consider the names on the track.
22-An End, Once and For All
23-Credits
24-Betrayal
25-Creation
Betrayal? Creation? Why are they located after the end and the credits? My guess is they are related to upcoming continuation of the ending, either left there by mistake or as a clue.

you must really like your post lol.

Haha, no. Something went wrong with editing my post.

[Kanon777]

i think Creation is the music for the Character creation screen

[Kanon777]

im listening to it right now, Creation is the characters creation music

Im not sure were betrayal from from but im pretty sure i heard it before during the canpain. Its a variation of the sovereign theme

Modifié par tobito113, 02 avril 2012 - 08:46 .

[njfluffy19]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...
A major expansion.. like 6-10 hours of gameplay added will have a price tag definitely. The ending dlc I'm assuming will be free depending on how big it is. IMO an expansion like awakening makes the most sense.. it seems to be the only logical explanation for cutting out the ending (if it was cut) they merely wanted to draw things out. But if they just merely cut a 30 minutes to 1 hour part of the game to put out as DLC.. that's just wrong.

Than I still want to know why they decided to cut out the end from the ACTUAL game, it just makes no logical sense, only from the bussiness's perspective. 

Btw, interessting thing I found on the Theory Crafting Forum:

Id like to add another thing about the soundtrack. I've already pointed out that the end song "An End, Once and For All" definately doesn't sound like an ending, it finishes by building up to something. Now consider the names on the track.
22-An End, Once and For All
23-Credits
24-Betrayal
25-Creation
Betrayal? Creation? Why are they located after the end and the credits? My guess is they are related to upcoming continuation of the ending, either left there by mistake or as a clue.

you must really like your post lol.

Not so sure about Betrayal, but the "Creation" audio is from the Creation screen, when you're naming your Shep and whatnot.

Edit: Too slow. 

Modifié par njfluffy19, 02 avril 2012 - 08:46 .

[Kanon777]

njfluffy19 wrote...

Not so sure about Betrayal, but the "Creation" audio is from the Creation screen, when you're naming your Shep and whatnot.

Edit: Too slow. 

[Rifneno]

khyvari wrote...

The fight with Cerberus is the 12th and final labor set out by his (Hercules) arch-nemesis Eurystheus. You see Hercules had committed a terrible (driven to madness by the jealous wife of Zeus, Hercules murdered his own children) "crime" (Shepard ie: Akuze, Elysium, Torfan, psychological profiles), to atone for this crime Hercules visited the Oracle of Delphi (Shepard "visits" Eden Prime and encounters the Beacon), and was counseled to report to King Eurystheus (Hercules arch-nemesis), where he was set on the 12 labors to atone for his crime. For Shepard his arch-nemesis is TIM. Hercules, for most of his life, had been in thrall to Eurystheus, the completion of his labors would set him free. For Shepard perhaps the hold of indoctrination (if you don't like indoctrination think "pride") Herecules 12 labors are like fetch quests for the most important pieces of information and technology throughout the trilogy. In the end when Hercules drags Cerberus back to Eurystheus, Eurystheus is so afraid of Hercules he goes into hiding forever. This is a thread for speculation, however, and in the spirit of that, I thought it would be stimulating to bring out one of the most heroic metaphors in Western culture.

Western? Does Greece count as western? I suppose it's not really eastern but... Well, anyways, I'd definitely classify Hera as Hercules' arch-nemesis rather than King Eurystheus. Also, I'd like to add that the Cerberus station where TIM was, which you raid right before Earth, was called Cronos Station. While I'm sure you know since you went into such detail on that, I'll mention for the readers who have forgotten their Greek mythology that Cronos, a titan, was Zeus' father. And thus Hercules' grandfather. I wonder how that factors in. If at all.

waldstr18 wrote...

what do you know?! tell me! tell me! tell me now!

uhm... i ment, how are you, sir? any news on the upcoming dlc?

Hehe. Not your usual demeanor. Beginning to have doubts?

Oh, and too lazy to do another quote, but "betrayal" plays when your Shepard is a John Holmes level dick. Like shooting Mordin in the back. With the gun Mordin gave him as a sign of trust. Horrible, horrible Shepard. Gives me a little bit of faith in humanity that the scene is so seldom seen that people think the music isn't in the game.

[Kitedtk]

it better have been... if not... fare well bioware... i will never trust thee again... not with a single pittance of my coins...

[njfluffy19]

Rifneno wrote...

khyvari wrote...

The fight with Cerberus is the 12th and final labor set out by his (Hercules) arch-nemesis Eurystheus. You see Hercules had committed a terrible (driven to madness by the jealous wife of Zeus, Hercules murdered his own children) "crime" (Shepard ie: Akuze, Elysium, Torfan, psychological profiles), to atone for this crime Hercules visited the Oracle of Delphi (Shepard "visits" Eden Prime and encounters the Beacon), and was counseled to report to King Eurystheus (Hercules arch-nemesis), where he was set on the 12 labors to atone for his crime. For Shepard his arch-nemesis is TIM. Hercules, for most of his life, had been in thrall to Eurystheus, the completion of his labors would set him free. For Shepard perhaps the hold of indoctrination (if you don't like indoctrination think "pride") Herecules 12 labors are like fetch quests for the most important pieces of information and technology throughout the trilogy. In the end when Hercules drags Cerberus back to Eurystheus, Eurystheus is so afraid of Hercules he goes into hiding forever. This is a thread for speculation, however, and in the spirit of that, I thought it would be stimulating to bring out one of the most heroic metaphors in Western culture.

Western? Does Greece count as western? I suppose it's not really eastern but... Well, anyways, I'd definitely classify Hera as Hercules' arch-nemesis rather than King Eurystheus. Also, I'd like to add that the Cerberus station where TIM was, which you raid right before Earth, was called Cronos Station. While I'm sure you know since you went into such detail on that, I'll mention for the readers who have forgotten their Greek mythology that Cronos, a titan, was Zeus' father. And thus Hercules' grandfather. I wonder how that factors in. If at all.

waldstr18 wrote...

what do you know?! tell me! tell me! tell me now!

uhm... i ment, how are you, sir? any news on the upcoming dlc?

Hehe. Not your usual demeanor. Beginning to have doubts?

Oh, and too lazy to do another quote, but "betrayal" plays when your Shepard is a John Holmes level dick. Like shooting Mordin in the back. With the gun Mordin gave him as a sign of trust. Horrible, horrible Shepard. Gives me a little bit of faith in humanity that the scene is so seldom seen that people think the music isn't in the game.

Mordin gave Shep a gun? Why don't I recall seeing this?

My Shep went running after Mordin in desperation. "Mordin, nooo!"

[Rifneno]

njfluffy19 wrote...

Mordin gave Shep a gun? Why don't I recall seeing this?

My Shep went running after Mordin in desperation. "Mordin, nooo!"

In ME2 I mean.  The Carnifex he gives you when you first meet him.

[waldstr18]

Rifneno wrote...

khyvari wrote...

The fight with Cerberus is the 12th and final labor set out by his (Hercules) arch-nemesis Eurystheus. You see Hercules had committed a terrible (driven to madness by the jealous wife of Zeus, Hercules murdered his own children) "crime" (Shepard ie: Akuze, Elysium, Torfan, psychological profiles), to atone for this crime Hercules visited the Oracle of Delphi (Shepard "visits" Eden Prime and encounters the Beacon), and was counseled to report to King Eurystheus (Hercules arch-nemesis), where he was set on the 12 labors to atone for his crime. For Shepard his arch-nemesis is TIM. Hercules, for most of his life, had been in thrall to Eurystheus, the completion of his labors would set him free. For Shepard perhaps the hold of indoctrination (if you don't like indoctrination think "pride") Herecules 12 labors are like fetch quests for the most important pieces of information and technology throughout the trilogy. In the end when Hercules drags Cerberus back to Eurystheus, Eurystheus is so afraid of Hercules he goes into hiding forever. This is a thread for speculation, however, and in the spirit of that, I thought it would be stimulating to bring out one of the most heroic metaphors in Western culture.

Western? Does Greece count as western? I suppose it's not really eastern but... Well, anyways, I'd definitely classify Hera as Hercules' arch-nemesis rather than King Eurystheus. Also, I'd like to add that the Cerberus station where TIM was, which you raid right before Earth, was called Cronos Station. While I'm sure you know since you went into such detail on that, I'll mention for the readers who have forgotten their Greek mythology that Cronos, a titan, was Zeus' father. And thus Hercules' grandfather. I wonder how that factors in. If at all.

waldstr18 wrote...

what do you know?! tell me! tell me! tell me now!

uhm... i ment, how are you, sir? any news on the upcoming dlc?

Hehe. Not your usual demeanor. Beginning to have doubts?

Oh, and too lazy to do another quote, but "betrayal" plays when your Shepard is a John Holmes level dick. Like shooting Mordin in the back. With the gun Mordin gave him as a sign of trust. Horrible, horrible Shepard. Gives me a little bit of faith in humanity that the scene is so seldom seen that people think the music isn't in the game.

doubts? hardy. you just wait for it, i will tell you "in your face" soon enough.

no, i thought you might have found some news i overlooked. i cant invest that much time at the moment in mass effect or your theory, because of the greater scheme of things.

but if something had changed, of course id like to know.

[njfluffy19]

Rifneno wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Mordin gave Shep a gun? Why don't I recall seeing this?

My Shep went running after Mordin in desperation. "Mordin, nooo!"

In ME2 I mean.  The Carnifex he gives you when you first meet him.

Oh man. Poor Mordin.

Renedouche Shepard.

[Vahilor]

Rifneno wrote...

khyvari wrote...

The fight with Cerberus is the 12th and final labor set out by his (Hercules) arch-nemesis Eurystheus. You see Hercules had committed a terrible (driven to madness by the jealous wife of Zeus, Hercules murdered his own children) "crime" (Shepard ie: Akuze, Elysium, Torfan, psychological profiles), to atone for this crime Hercules visited the Oracle of Delphi (Shepard "visits" Eden Prime and encounters the Beacon), and was counseled to report to King Eurystheus (Hercules arch-nemesis), where he was set on the 12 labors to atone for his crime. For Shepard his arch-nemesis is TIM. Hercules, for most of his life, had been in thrall to Eurystheus, the completion of his labors would set him free. For Shepard perhaps the hold of indoctrination (if you don't like indoctrination think "pride") Herecules 12 labors are like fetch quests for the most important pieces of information and technology throughout the trilogy. In the end when Hercules drags Cerberus back to Eurystheus, Eurystheus is so afraid of Hercules he goes into hiding forever. This is a thread for speculation, however, and in the spirit of that, I thought it would be stimulating to bring out one of the most heroic metaphors in Western culture.

Western? Does Greece count as western? I suppose it's not really eastern but... Well, anyways, I'd definitely classify Hera as Hercules' arch-nemesis rather than King Eurystheus. Also, I'd like to add that the Cerberus station where TIM was, which you raid right before Earth, was called Cronos Station. While I'm sure you know since you went into such detail on that, I'll mention for the readers who have forgotten their Greek mythology that Cronos, a titan, was Zeus' father. And thus Hercules' grandfather. I wonder how that factors in. If at all.

Cronos was killed by Zeus and his two brothers Hades and Poseidon =).
Hercules was the most loved son of Zeus and the most hated by Hera. And Greece mythologie is sure typical western mythologie stuff =).

But if you look around most planets, stations and stuff in space are somhow named after gods or creatures from various mythologies or religions.. (that's even normal at our time) so the moons of Mars (roman name for Ares) are named after his sons  Phobos and Deimos (gods of fear abd Terror) so I would interpret to much into the names given.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

I found the explanation for all of this: http://imageshack.us...spacemagic.jpg/

[Skillz1986]

No news i suppose?