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...new fish DLC, toys for space hamster DLC ... 




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Question: why did spacekid summon the elevator? He could just let shep die on the floor....couldnt he?

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Question: why the hell would he do that?

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Probably Space Brat wanted to talk Shep into insanity first with his great logic.

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He wanted to let shep know how important the cycle of reapers preventing synthetics from rebelling against organics who will always create synthetics.

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Zokopops wrote...

Question: why did spacekid summon the elevator? He could just let shep die on the floor....couldnt he?


I think, this is a classical pattern ... the evil genius explains his plans in lengthy detail, breaking out into evil laugther once in a while. Meanwhile the hero recovers and is able to stop him ...

Only that we got no evil laughter ... and no evil genius...

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 Was this posted here yet? ... I just saw it:
Bioware to make “Big and Amazing” Mass Effect 3 announcement at PAX 2012?

http://www.gamepur.c...t-pax-2012.html

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Honestly the one of the strongest pieces of It evidence is the kid who is so prominent in this game.

He is the first thing you see and is playing with a toy aircraft. This is can be can be interpreted as symbolism about his control over something involving the alliance military, presumably shepard.

He makes it across several city blocks in a way no child could, especially during all that chaos

He is never noticed by anyone except for shepard. You see soldiers helping civilians, yet they never even glance at the boy. None of shepards teammates do either

He is in an electrified vent. There is a clear warning sign just outside the duct

He goes through a locked door. This door opens in an odd way. Usually when doors open the light panel is green and disappears until the doors close again. When the kid goes through the door the light stays red and does not disappear. He literally walks through the red light.

The room the kid is in gets hit full on by a reaper blast that blows out the windows and knocks shepard back. Its weird that the kid is completely clean and unharmed after that

Back to back reaper growls after anderson calls you to attention. The kid correspondingly vanishes even though the back of the vent is sealed

The kid says * you cant help me* nobody says that in a doomsday situation..least of all little kids

The kid shows up at the end of the game as the catalyst. This links his appearance directly to the reapers since the kid refers to himself as a reaper

The first dream shepard experiences has no oily shadows and no haunting voices

As shepard goes into his second dream, the voices start and the shadows begin to spawn.

The final dream forces you to the kid, where as you had to chase the kid down in the earlier ones
The shadows are numerous and the voices are everywhere.

We cant overstate the importance of the kid. Bioware purposefully began and ended the game with a child.

Modifié par Dendio1, 02 avril 2012 - 09:18 .


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Just don't get all those questions..."why doesn't he just let shepard die" "why do the reapers not protect the citadel", "why do they not protect the beam at all costs" simple answer...because according to this theory...shepard is not even trying..he's to busy lying on the ground, smoking and recovering from being lasered. look..i know it's over a thousand pages up in here...but dig around a little bit..you'll find every answer you need. because let's be honest...none of these questions are new..and we've already answered them before they have been asked.

If it was real...and the reapers would have wanted to prevent shepard from reaching the beam...they would have sent out something a litlle bit more impressive than husks or marauder shields. or they would have just turned of that beam.

Unless, marauder wanted to finally prove himself
harb" okay..listen up shields..i know you have been waiting for it...and i am sure you can take him down...but all i need you to do now is to turn off that beam..got it...i don't need a hero...just hit that switch and we're good..a'ight?"
M.shields: "hell naw...i'm going to take him down once an for all..he's half dead..what could he possibly do to me...chaaaaaaaarge(gunshot)"
Harb: "well s**t...there goes our last hope...time for me to dust off" kharbinger taking off)

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@Dendio1:
While the kids presence is indeed a strong evidence, I have to disagree mildly on the overall ranking. I believe the strongest evidence is the reversal of colours for destroy/control and its representation by Anderson/TIM. A user named greywardencommander posted something about this way back (you will have to look around page 900).

But yes, that kid is pretty weird in all its incarnations.

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Greek mythology is one of the main pillars of Western culutre/mythology. Just to clarify the iffyness of some of the answers to that question. So yes Greece is Western. (Oversimplified) Western basically means anything not Asian/Oriental/Indigenous; or as another oversimplification, white people's origins. Remember, Western culture existed before Europe settled the Americas.

I hope I did that justice.

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bdragon wrote...

 Was this posted here yet? ... I just saw it:
Bioware to make “Big and Amazing” Mass Effect 3 announcement at PAX 2012?

http://www.gamepur.c...t-pax-2012.html


Well, that was posted on April 1. But I guess it's safe to assume that they will announce something ... or they'll have to worry about more than an arrow in their knees ...

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Just don't get all those questions..."why doesn't he just let shepard die" "why do the reapers not protect the citadel", "why do they not protect the beam at all costs" simple answer...because according to this theory...shepard is not even trying..he's to busy lying on the ground, smoking and recovering from being lasered. look..i know it's over a thousand pages up in here...but dig around a little bit..you'll find every answer you need. because let's be honest...none of these questions are new..and we've already answered them before they have been asked. If it was real...and the reapers would have wanted to prevent shepard from reaching the beam...they would have sent out something a litlle bit more impressive than husks or marauder shields. or they would have just turned of that beam. Unless, marauder wanted to finally prove himself  harb" okay..listen up shields..i know you have been waiting for it...and i am sure you can take him down...but all i need you to do now is to turn off that beam..got it...i don't need a hero...just hit that switch and we're good..a'ight?" M.shields: "hell naw...i'm going to take him down once an for all..he's half dead..what could he possibly do to me...chaaaaaaaarge(gunshot)" Harb: "well s**t...there goes our last hope...time for me to dust off" kharbinger taking off)

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Ah god damn it..hate phones...no i posted it twice...soryy guys

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N7xELITE wrote...

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who the hell is this guy? I keep seeing memes with him on it.

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"why doesn't he just let shepard die"
= Harbinger has stated several times that he wants shepard to submit to him. Saren said that harbinger was impressed by shepard. The dead reaper on rannoch said *harbinger speaks of you*. Arrival DLC harby through direct control tells shepar's jailers to leave him alive.

"why do the reapers not protect the citadel"
The entire point of the game was to gather the universe against the reapers. By bringing all of the galaxies military might against the reapers at once, the hope is to busy the reapers enough to slip the catalyst by them and on the citadel. Basically the reapers had their hands full.

On the ground the reaper forces all converge to the beam. You hear the companies being wiped out one by one as you go through priority earth. In the end after a massive assault you manage to make it to the long run. Then harby the leader of the reapers shows up and decimates hammer company. The reapers were trying very hard to stop the ground force..and they succeeded..as far as we know anyway

Modifié par Dendio1, 02 avril 2012 - 09:28 .


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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

 http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium


who the hell is this guy? I keep seeing memes with him on it.

I do not know lol

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@Dendio...yeah..i know that..just wanted to point out...how stupid these questions are..sorry..i dont want to offend anyone..but..they are.

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LOST SPARTANJLC wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Look at this video. Shepard was definitely on the Citadel.


Why would earth material be on the citadel and why would he be buried under it.There was some video pointing out that their's actual a car or building in the far back.


The point was to show that the material in the breathe scene is from the citadel. Why people insist on calling it earth I don't know.

Why do we all assume he's on earth. This could have been within minutes of when the choice was made.

A building and a car? That's a stretch, especially since there aren't any around when the beam hits Shepard and the dream is supposed to begin.

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N7xELITE wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

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who the hell is this guy? I keep seeing memes with him on it.

I do not know lol


Hes a guy on the "Ancient Aliens" on the History channel I think from seeing the commercials.

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

 http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium


who the hell is this guy? I keep seeing memes with him on it.


He's a guy who tries to push the idea that all of the major events and wonders in human history were under the influence of aliens. He can't explain how they did it, therefore it was aliens that did it.

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why can't they just announce the damn dlc already

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N7xELITE wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

 http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium


who the hell is this guy? I keep seeing memes with him on it.

I do not know lol


Its from a History Channel special on ancient aliens -or- :alien::wizard:

Edit: darn slow internets...

Modifié par zakaryzb, 02 avril 2012 - 09:34 .


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Wow, Tom Cruise has really let himself go...