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#27926
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Skillz1986 wrote...

Just hope to get the chance to kick starbrats ass back to dark space or whatever damn hole he came from.
Brat:well these are your three options...decide
shep: my options huh? How about this...how about a fourth option..you know..just for fun?. Option four is i call your damn loser of a mother who can't look after her children running around an pulling stupid pranks on people. i'm going ti show you some manners l
you little ******...some ass whooping inbound!


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njfluffy19 wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

Just hope to get the chance to kick starbrats ass back to dark space or whatever damn hole he came from.
Brat:well these are your three options...decide
shep: my options huh? How about this...how about a fourth option..you know..just for fun?. Option four is i call your damn loser of a mother who can't look after her children running around an pulling stupid pranks on people. i'm going ti show you some manners l
you little ******...some ass whooping inbound!


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I actually lol'd. Fantastic :D

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kilgorek wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masseffect Twitter posted these tweets recently:

"There is additional content addressing the endings to be released!"


"We're so happy you enjoyed it! We can't wait for you to see what comes next!"

Thoughts?


They've been saying this for weeks. Apparently, according to Bioware, Lance Henriksen, and the media it's supposed to be big. If it's big, I can't imagine it not being IT.


It wasn't according to Bioware, it was according to someone that posted on Bioware's forums who claimed he met Henriksen... On April Fool's Day...

#27929
njfluffy19

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zakaryzb wrote...

kilgorek wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masseffect Twitter posted these tweets recently:

"There is additional content addressing the endings to be released!"


"We're so happy you enjoyed it! We can't wait for you to see what comes next!"

Thoughts?


They've been saying this for weeks. Apparently, according to Bioware, Lance Henriksen, and the media it's supposed to be big. If it's big, I can't imagine it not being IT.


It wasn't according to Bioware, it was according to someone that posted on Bioware's forums who claimed he met Henriksen... On April Fool's Day...


I never looked at the post, but apparently it was linked back to BSN. Who was the person to have claimed to have met him? Sounds fishy.

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zakaryzb wrote...

kilgorek wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masseffect Twitter posted these tweets recently:

"There is additional content addressing the endings to be released!"


"We're so happy you enjoyed it! We can't wait for you to see what comes next!"

Thoughts?


They've been saying this for weeks. Apparently, according to Bioware, Lance Henriksen, and the media it's supposed to be big. If it's big, I can't imagine it not being IT.


It wasn't according to Bioware, it was according to someone that posted on Bioware's forums who claimed he met Henriksen... On April Fool's Day...

No bioware twitter has been saying for weeks that something big is on the way, that the person that met lance posted the day before.

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Yeah right..great logic. lines on the rubble that "match" the lines on the citadel? That's your proof right there. and the cables..that are being used throughout the entire game..even i the normandy..thats a verly logical counter argument..seriously. besides..i have not said anything that would give you reason to doubt my logic now have i. I simply pointed out that this video is really reallystupid..and i have not even questioned the creators intelligence...just his way of presenting "proof" im not saying there aren't any holes i this theory..it would not be a theory otherwise..would it? But this video was so damn weak..i don't even know what to say.

Oh i forgot...@waldstr18

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njfluffy19 wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

kilgorek wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masseffect Twitter posted these tweets recently:

"There is additional content addressing the endings to be released!"


"We're so happy you enjoyed it! We can't wait for you to see what comes next!"

Thoughts?


They've been saying this for weeks. Apparently, according to Bioware, Lance Henriksen, and the media it's supposed to be big. If it's big, I can't imagine it not being IT.


It wasn't according to Bioware, it was according to someone that posted on Bioware's forums who claimed he met Henriksen... On April Fool's Day...


I never looked at the post, but apparently it was linked back to BSN. Who was the person to have claimed to have met him? Sounds fishy.


Origina Post: 
http://social.biowar...10869458-1.html 

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But someone else had pictures of Henriksen at the same convention. He WAS there. Whether or not he said what he did, that's up for debate.

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zakaryzb wrote...

kilgorek wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masseffect Twitter posted these tweets recently:

"There is additional content addressing the endings to be released!"


"We're so happy you enjoyed it! We can't wait for you to see what comes next!"

Thoughts?


They've been saying this for weeks. Apparently, according to Bioware, Lance Henriksen, and the media it's supposed to be big. If it's big, I can't imagine it not being IT.


It wasn't according to Bioware, it was according to someone that posted on Bioware's forums who claimed he met Henriksen... On April Fool's Day...


Uh, yes it is according to Bioware. Ray said something big is coming, and the ME twitters have been saying it for weeks. The guy who met Henriksen is a completely different story. And considering we know for a fact that Henriksen was at a convention that day, I tend to believe him.

I'm not saying any of this means it's actually going live up to our expectations, whatever it is. I'm just referencing the sources who have claimed this.

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Skillz1986 wrote...

Yeah right..great logic. lines on the rubble that "match" the lines on the citadel? That's your proof right there. and the cables..that are being used throughout the entire game..even i the normandy..thats a verly logical counter argument..seriously. besides..i have not said anything that would give you reason to doubt my logic now have i. I simply pointed out that this video is really reallystupid..and i have not even questioned the creators intelligence...just his way of presenting "proof" im not saying there aren't any holes i this theory..it would not be a theory otherwise..would it? But this video was so damn weak..i don't even know what to say.

Oh i forgot...@waldstr18

So you are just ripping into the guy that made the videp, not the IT itself.
Personally the IT doesnt have as many plotholes as say............the whole original ending.  Come on people, wake up and smell the indoctrination.

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Apollo-XL5 wrote...

IT believer: we believe that the dismissal of the IT will bring about biblical effects
NOn believer: what do you mean biblical?
ITB: he means old testament, real wrath of god type stuff, 40 days of darkness, earthquakes and volcanoes, rivers and seas boiling, the dead rising from the grave, cats and dogs living together MASS HYSTERIA!
NB: ok i get it, but what if your wrong?
ITB: if we wrong, we go queitly, peacefully, we will enjoy it, but if we are right and bioware can confirm IT, man, they will have saved the lives of millions of ME gamers.

lol true...

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

But someone else had pictures of Henriksen at the same convention. He WAS there. Whether or not he said what he did, that's up for debate.


I'm not denying that, I just can't take anything that was posted yesterday as truth... stupid April fools day... :blush:

#27938
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kilgorek wrote...

zakaryzb wrote...

kilgorek wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masseffect Twitter posted these tweets recently:

"There is additional content addressing the endings to be released!"


"We're so happy you enjoyed it! We can't wait for you to see what comes next!"

Thoughts?


They've been saying this for weeks. Apparently, according to Bioware, Lance Henriksen, and the media it's supposed to be big. If it's big, I can't imagine it not being IT.


It wasn't according to Bioware, it was according to someone that posted on Bioware's forums who claimed he met Henriksen... On April Fool's Day...


Uh, yes it is according to Bioware. Ray said something big is coming, and the ME twitters have been saying it for weeks. The guy who met Henriksen is a completely different story. And considering we know for a fact that Henriksen was at a convention that day, I tend to believe him.

I'm not saying any of this means it's actually going live up to our expectations, whatever it is. I'm just referencing the sources who have claimed this.


This excites me! My fiance keeps telling me we're all just dilluded. I, on the other hand, am contently hopeful.

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Chaosbrain wrote...

Apollo-XL5 wrote...

IT believer: we believe that the dismissal of the IT will bring about biblical effects
NOn believer: what do you mean biblical?
ITB: he means old testament, real wrath of god type stuff, 40 days of darkness, earthquakes and volcanoes, rivers and seas boiling, the dead rising from the grave, cats and dogs living together MASS HYSTERIA!
NB: ok i get it, but what if your wrong?
ITB: if we wrong, we go queitly, peacefully, we will enjoy it, but if we are right and bioware can confirm IT, man, they will have saved the lives of millions of ME gamers.

lol true...

Glad you liked it.
Thats a big twinkie!

#27940
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"So what? Bioware is lazy and recycled all those models." - IT opponents upon being pointed at the dozens of clues like the destroy option being proto-reaper's spine and a stationary ramp that has wheels under it for some reason.

"This instantly and completely disproves IT!" - IT opponents upon finding a cable, using flycam, that's found all over the galaxy and bears a resemblance to rebar.

It's a shame they went zero tolerance on the flaming, because this seriously deserves hardcore mocking.

#27941
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Once again...i love it...i hope it is true...and i'm going to post it as many times as necessary..because i just can't seem to make it clear across the board. i am a believer!!!! god damn it ! :)

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Ah yes, concrete. The space-iest of all materials. I mean I can't count the amount of space stations in sci-fi made out of concrete. Seriously, I've tried counting it and literally couldn't!

And really, let's see what we need to assume to say that Shepard's breathing scene happens on the Citadel:
1. The IT is false (unless you create some REAAAAALLY contrived way to tie it up)
2. Therefore, everything shown to us in the ending was real.
3. Therefore, the Citadel actually exploded.
4. And also Shepard should've died just because "he's also partly synthetic"
5. Therefore, the Catalyst flat-out lied, despite his other words being true.
6. And also the Citadel explosion, taking out the entire section where he was in, didn't kill Shepard.
7. And the Citadel explosion didn't destroy the Citadel.
8. And didn't even destroy its life support systems, since the air and gravity are still there.
9. And the explosion threw Shepard (without killing him) into a completely different place, since there was no concrete structures in the three-choices level.

Really, if you're debunking IT just say that the Catalyst teleported Shepard in the moment of explosion, saving him from the Red Space Magic Wave and imminent death from explosion, lack of air or depressurizing. It's stupid, but at least it makes SOME sense.

EDIT: spelling

Modifié par Shooter__Andy, 02 avril 2012 - 10:45 .


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zakaryzb wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

But someone else had pictures of Henriksen at the same convention. He WAS there. Whether or not he said what he did, that's up for debate.


I'm not denying that, I just can't take anything that was posted yesterday as truth... stupid April fools day... :blush:


but....bioware annonced it- in a EXCLUSIVE statement.
http://www.trueachie...t-3s-ending.htm



HAS to be true. 

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zakaryzb wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

But someone else had pictures of Henriksen at the same convention. He WAS there. Whether or not he said what he did, that's up for debate.


I'm not denying that, I just can't take anything that was posted yesterday as truth... stupid April fools day... :blush:



edit: sorry double post...

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 02 avril 2012 - 10:41 .


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wow! who is that guy?

dont worry, you dont have to watch all of it. i added a timestamp.


"the indoctrination is the realization that the player base cares more about the game then the developers do" (paraphrasing of course)

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Shooter__Andy wrote...

Ah yes, concrete. The space-iest of all materials. I mean I can't count the amount of space stations in sci-fi made out of concrete. Seriously, I've tried counting it and literally couldn't!

And really, let's see what we need to assume to say that Shepard's breathing scene happens on the Citadel:
1. The IT is false (unless you create some REAAAAALLY contrived way to tie it up)
2. Therefore, everything shown to us in the ending was real.
3. Therefore, the Citadel actually exploded.
4. And also Shepard should've died just because "he's also partly synthetic"
5. Therefore, the Catalyst flat-out lied, despite his other words being true.
6. And also the Citadel explosion, taking out the entire section where he was in, didn't kill Shepard.
7. And the Citadel explosion didn't destroy it.
8. And didn't even destroy its life support systems, since the air and gravity are still there.
9. And the explosion threw Shepard (without killing hum) in a completely different place, since there was no concrete structures in the three-choices level.

Really, if you're debunking IT just say that the Catalyst teleported Shepard in the moment of explosion, saving him from the Red Space Magic Wave and imminent death from explosion, lack of air or depressurizing. It's stupid, but at least it makes SOME sense.



wow. just trying to support the current ending makes you sound crazy. how can people still think those are the accual endings???? and they call us indocternated..

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Just for amusement's sake I wonder if Operation Beachhead. the multiplayer operation weekend thing that is upcoming, will have anything related with any announcements at PAX.

I'd laugh if it was. :)

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waldstr18 wrote...

wow! who is that guy?

dont worry, you dont have to watch all of it. i added a timestamp.


"the indoctrination is the realization that the player base cares more about the game then the developers do" (paraphrasing of course)


Already posted, and the guy doesn't make any arguments that haven't been brought up before. I've already addressed him somewhere in this thread. His claim that Bioware didn't "care" about the game is laughable.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Novouto wrote...

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Look at this video. Shepard was definitely on the Citadel.


Why would earth material be on the citadel and why would he be buried under it.There was some video pointing out that their's actual a car or building in the far back.


The point was to show that the material in the breathe scene is from the citadel. Why people insist on calling it earth I don't know.

Why do we all assume he's on earth. This could have been within minutes of when the choice was made.

A building and a car? That's a stretch, especially since there aren't any around when the beam hits Shepard and the dream is supposed to begin.


Because the citadel exploded and space is a vacuum. Space has no air. Therefore, he cannot breath, nor make a sound. He would also be floating lol.


Watch the final scene of Mass Effect 1.


Not sure what the normandy flying off into the final frontier has anything to do with this.

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I seem to remember a statement from one of the main guys at bioware (can't remember who) stating that they will release some type of dlc content that will CLARIFY the ending. If the ending that we saw actually happened, The mass relays exploding, joker and your crewing deserting shepard and crashing on some world, space magic etc. then i dont see how they can clarify anything.

This video clarifies the ending in 3 seconds