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[Vahilor]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

I think the star child thing was lying about destroying all synthetic life. Otherwise, Shep doesn't live, right?

yup. it was trying to persuade you into indoctrination.

I think more the exploding Citadel proves the IDT, not the "You die cause you are partly syntethic part." Cause IMO no one will survive the exploding citadel.. even there is no way Shep still beeing on the citadel or some part of it...

[Jadebaby]

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

[Rifneno]

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

[Jadebaby]

Mcfly616 wrote...

He does say that synthetic life will die if you choose Destroy.....and there EDI is, stepping out of the Normandy....and onto Gilligans planet.....so I'd say the starkid LIED

You must be new here... She doesn't.

[Derp88]

Vahilor wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

I think the star child thing was lying about destroying all synthetic life. Otherwise, Shep doesn't live, right?

yup. it was trying to persuade you into indoctrination.

I think more the exploding Citadel proves the IDT, not the "You die cause you are partly syntethic part." Cause IMO no one will survive the exploding citadel.. even there is no way Shep still beeing on the citadel or some part of it...

I think we have the same train of thought Vahilor

I just think the starchild is getting quite a bad rep for being called a liar, when it is debatable. Just to clarify I don't like the starbrat, but wouldn't call him a liar

[Jadebaby]

Rifneno wrote...

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

where did u read this?

[paptschik]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

paptschik wrote...

Reading some of this thread made me go from liking the ending to absolutely loving it. I love it when you can interpret and speculate like this

Only if they actually let us get up from breaking indoctrination and finish the battle once and for all.. It's not over, not in my books.

I'd like that, but as is I'm happy that we have several flawed but to me still good endings (flawed in that the Normandy part makes no sense, but the rest I really really liked, even if taken at face value with no theory behind it) and get the option to speculate about more, options that actually make sense too and fit well with the game and in some cases seem to be clearly hinted at (whether that's to indicate a true meaning or just to enforce speculation is another question). I just like that it seems that the game clearly sets up multiple endings beyond what we actually see, just stuff we can interpret etc.
But..again, my opinion and all and I WOULD love to be able to go on like that.

[Rifneno]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

where did u read this?

I don't remember.  

[Big G13]

Atrumitos wrote...

 

Big G13 wrote...
I was under the impression that the VI was hacked by TIM and thats why the security is no longer in effect.

 

Indeed the VI was hacked by TIM. The question is though, why did it tell Shepard "Security protocols have been overridden. I will comply." when you ask him about the catalyst? It's like saying "I would not answer otherwise, but since my security protocols are down, I will".

I see what your saying. Because of the VIs statement, there is no way to use the conversation with the VI to determine indoc. one way or the other.

[Vahilor]

Derp88 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

I think the star child thing was lying about destroying all synthetic life. Otherwise, Shep doesn't live, right?

yup. it was trying to persuade you into indoctrination.

I think more the exploding Citadel proves the IDT, not the "You die cause you are partly syntethic part." Cause IMO no one will survive the exploding citadel.. even there is no way Shep still beeing on the citadel or some part of it...

I think we have the same train of thought Vahilor

I just think the starchild is getting quite a bad rep for being called a liar, when it is debatable. Just to clarify I don't like the starbrat, but wouldn't call him a liar

And we all know the great logic of Star Brat ^^ .. star brat is not the most intelligent thing in space XD

[captainbob8383]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

Citadel and relays blow up in every ending.

[Vahilor]

captainbob8383 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

Citadel and relays blow up in every ending.

No the citadel doesn't blow up in the controll ending.. it closes and flys away with the Reapers.

Modifié par Vahilor, 03 avril 2012 - 01:09 .

[Atrumitos]

Big G13 wrote...

Atrumitos wrote...

 

Big G13 wrote...
I was under the impression that the VI was hacked by TIM and thats why the security is no longer in effect.

 

Indeed the VI was hacked by TIM. The question is though, why did it tell Shepard "Security protocols have been overridden. I will comply." when you ask him about the catalyst? It's like saying "I would not answer otherwise, but since my security protocols are down, I will".

I see what your saying. Because of the VIs statement, there is no way to use the conversation with the VI to determine indoc. one way or the other.

Yeah just a possible hint. It could be nothing since the VI asks you if you are there to take it back from indoctrinated forces. Just thought I'd mention it, since it does kinda fit. Although the guys said it was mentioned before.

Just hoping this ending is not the true ending and it's just the mental fight of an incapacitated Shepard.

[captainbob8383]

Vahilor wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

Citadel and relays blow up in every ending.

No the citadel doesn't blow up in the controll ending.. it closes and flys away with the Reapers.

EDIT: citadel blow in destroy endings


approx 1:45

Modifié par captainbob8383, 03 avril 2012 - 01:22 .

[MadRabbit999]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

You see those last 3 coloured videos are pre-rendered so what you have seen is either a hidden ending, or you do not remember well enough.

Sorry I cannot find the exact link, it was from a topic here on the forums (Probably iwth a little search it can be found).

But this one has the same points if I am not wrong.

[Vahilor]

captainbob8383 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

Citadel and relays blow up in every ending.

No the citadel doesn't blow up in the controll ending.. it closes and flys away with the Reapers.

Citadel blows up, even in destroy ending:


approx 1:45

I only said it doesn't blow up in the control ending.

[Blubox]

So, yesterday i finished the game on insanity (I have to say that Marauder Shields is a worthy opponent for someone who cant aim - like me, he was harder to kill than the banshees or brutes<_<) and since i was in TIMs base the story went downhill, that got me thinking. Everything weird starts here.
Even though you all think this is absolutly nothing, i still have to get that off my chest.

I have not quiet finished that line of thought and it is a bit difficult to discribe all that in english...but...

That room is just too weird to ignore. I wrote it yesterday somewhere. I used biotics in there and they always ended up directly behind me or on the other side of the room. It didnt matter it what direction I threw my biotics. When u enter the room they still work normal but as soon as u go on the ramp(thingy) they end up somewhere else.

After you exit the room and go in TIMs "office", it is in that room the VI tells u about the catalyst being the citadel. TIM did something to that VI, changed security protokolls or something. It also tells you that TIM fled to the citadel, that he informed the reapers about the crucible and that "The citadel has been moved to the Reaper controlled Space". Also, after the mission on TIMs base u have a new war asset - The Reaper Heart (when you destroyed the collectors base, and Reaper Brain when u gave it to TIM). The Heart from the reaper that you killed in ME2 and saw in TIMs base. They used the Reaper Heart to fuel the crucible. Am I the only one who thinks that it is a bad Idea, putting Reaper tech - not just reaper tech but a reaper Heart - into the crucible, to fuel it?

The "green"room did something to Shepard. I don't know what but it sure screwed up my biotics (Damn, i should have tried tech aswell) What the hell kind of room is that anyway? I think that TIM manipulated(?) the VI so it tells shepard exactly what it told him, to get shepard to the citadel. I don't understand how the reapers could not know about the crucible, there are just way too many people involved building that damn thing. They must have known. So TIM and the Reapers brought the citadel to earth (God knows how, but they did it somehow) to do what? I did'nt understand that part. I don't know why they brought it to earth, to harvest humans? The VI said, to protect it, so they brought it somewhere where most of the reapers are. If they just wanted to protect it, why the beam? Since there is reaper tech in the crucible and that the reapers actually build the citadel, isnt it obvious(?) that it is a trap?
I have to think all that through again. I think i just confused myself.

[captainbob8383]

Vahilor wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

Citadel and relays blow up in every ending.

No the citadel doesn't blow up in the controll ending.. it closes and flys away with the Reapers.

Citadel blows up, even in destroy ending:


approx 1:45

I only said it doesn't blow up in the control ending.

My bad, mixed your post with another one. An yeah you're right doesnt blow up with control.

[Jadebaby]

Rifneno wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

where did u read this?

I don't remember.  

Lies, I got the collector edition and I see no guide book.. There's an art book.....

[captainbob8383]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

where did u read this?

I don't remember.  

Lies, I got the collector edition and I see no guide book.. There's an art book.....

I think he's talking about that:
http://www.amazon.co...l/dp/030789150X

Modifié par captainbob8383, 03 avril 2012 - 01:17 .

[Golferguy758]

Saying that shepard can live without his synthetic parts is like saying you can live without your lungs.

Shepard is ay least 50% synthetic. He was a puddle of meat and bone at the start of lazarus.

Losing synthetic parts would definitely kill him. Rgc implies that so hard he's just short of hitting you over the head with a rolled up newspaper.


Unless space magic of course. Herp derp de derp

[Rifneno]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

where did u read this?

I don't remember.  

Lies, I got the collector edition and I see no guide book.. There's an art book.....

As CaptainBob said, I was refering to the hardcore book.  But thanks for the whole "lies" thing.  Here, have a mint.  Helps get the taste of foot out of your mouth.

[Jadebaby]

captainbob8383 wrote...

Vahilor wrote...

captainbob8383 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

MadRabbit999 wrote...

Your Citadel did not blow up on red ending? That is eithe a troll attempt or something new.

Also there is a video highlighting where Shepard wakes up it is not London, (To be hoenst this is like the IT, there is no real proof to say eitherway).

Do you have a link for the vid? I'm pretty sure It didn't no, but I only did the one playthrough and that was 3 weeks ago, about to refresh my memory on it when I finish 2nd run.

Citadel and relays blow up in every ending.

No the citadel doesn't blow up in the controll ending.. it closes and flys away with the Reapers.

Citadel blows up, even in destroy ending:


approx 1:45

I meant a link for the breathe scene video...

[Jadebaby]

Rifneno wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I think this is a good time to rehash this.

The Collector's Edition guide, which is official and was made with Bioware's input, lists 3 ending variants. Only one is clearly what we got in the game. "Create a synergy between organic and synthetic life". The other two are more interestingly put. Destroy synthetics is not worded as "destroy synthetics". It says "destroy the Reapers". Just the Reapers. And in the destroy ending, the Reapers are the ONLY synthetics we actually see destroyed. Control is even more WTF-esque. "If you choose to become a Reaper". ... Um. So how's about that new turian baseball league?

where did u read this?

I don't remember.  

Lies, I got the collector edition and I see no guide book.. There's an art book.....

As CaptainBob said, I was refering to the hardcore book.  But thanks for the whole "lies" thing.  Here, have a mint.  Helps get the taste of foot out of your mouth.

Thanks, I was wondering how I could get rid of that taste the ending left...

I have the "hardcore book" too.. Might give it a read... it's soo thick though... Felt like I bought a $30 paperweight...

[Big G13]

Atrumitos wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Atrumitos wrote...

 

Big G13 wrote...
I was under the impression that the VI was hacked by TIM and thats why the security is no longer in effect.

 

Indeed the VI was hacked by TIM. The question is though, why did it tell Shepard "Security protocols have been overridden. I will comply." when you ask him about the catalyst? It's like saying "I would not answer otherwise, but since my security protocols are down, I will".

I see what your saying. Because of the VIs statement, there is no way to use the conversation with the VI to determine indoc. one way or the other.

Yeah just a possible hint. It could be nothing since the VI asks you if you are there to take it back from indoctrinated forces. Just thought I'd mention it, since it does kinda fit. Although the guys said it was mentioned before.

Just hoping this ending is not the true ending and it's just the mental fight of an incapacitated Shepard.

You and me both. And you'll never get any grief from me for rehashing. This thing is at 1134 and I don't have time to read it all every time I come to the forum.