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Mcfly616

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CheesieOnion wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png

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Can someone confirm this? Maybe this is another troll trying to be funny.


He's not being a troll.....there's another thread going right now...this guy is ripping through game files....we thought this one was the most interesting as its the foliage from "Gilligans" Planet....and its labeled "Dream" foliage.....just wanted to fill you guys in

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njfluffy19

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Is the forum broken?

Edit: Nevermind.

Modifié par njfluffy19, 03 avril 2012 - 06:17 .


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Hey Im back with some more ghostbuster inspired dialogue between IT believers and the peckers (haters)

peck: Hi Im walter peck, are you a believer?
IT believer: yes, I am?
peck: and what are you a believer of?
ITB: the indoctrination theory
peck: and would that theory be on the forums you use?
ITB: yes
peck: and may I see this theory?
ITB: no
peck: and why not?
ITB: becuase you did not say the magic word
peck: what is the magic word mr believer?
ITB: please!
peck: mr believer, may i please see the indoctrination theory?
ITB: why do you want to see it?
peck: becuase Im curious, I want to know what rubbish theories you guys are coming up with that completely make out that we were all duped, which we haters dont think is fair. Now you can show me this theory, or i will come back with a court order.
ITB: go get your court order, and i will sue your ass for unlawful harassment
peck you can have it any way you want, I will be back!

meanwhile in the basement

ITB2:well say that this space hamster is the daily amount of dark energy used in the tri state area, according to this mornings sample, it would be a hamster 20 feet long, weighing about 400 tonnes.
ITB3: thats a big hamster.
ITB: we just had a visit from the commitee of haters that want nothing more than debunk our theory and rub it in our faces. Whats up with you guys?
ITB3: tell him about the space hamster
ITB: what about the space hamster?

Modifié par Apollo-XL5, 03 avril 2012 - 06:18 .


#28529
Purple People Eater

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SPEC YOU LAY SHION.

I really hope we get some sort of greater hope to go by soon. I feel like we have enough evidence to get a conviction, but the jury is taking their sweet time in giving their ruling.

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Mcfly616

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Sorry....double post....my phone is being really weird right now

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Pathero wrote...

I'm going to literally give birth to my own head if they planned this. Imagine if the obvious and fufilling ending was suppose to be 'obviously IT'. Mind would be blown. Let's hope.


It certainly makes sense..the alternative is a belief that biowares writing is so terrible in the last 10-15 minutes that it completely discredits everything they have worked on previously. Which seems to me almost impossible. I certainly feel like it was done on purpose. We'll see in a few days

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Mcfly616 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png

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Can someone confirm this? Maybe this is another troll trying to be funny.


He's not being a troll.....there's another thread going right now...this guy is ripping through game files....we thought this one was the most interesting as its the foliage from "Gilligans" Planet....and its labeled "Dream" foliage.....just wanted to fill you guys in


I can confirm this.

But you can see the same plant in the "real" dreams. So it could be just copied from the "real" dream to the last crashed normandy scene.

Modifié par Robert-42, 03 avril 2012 - 06:21 .


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Why is it that the people that don't agree with the IT appear angry?
Like they are mad or something.

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cavs25 wrote...

Why is it that the people that don't agree with the IT appear angry?
Like they are mad or something.

Don't really know : / 


I think that there are too many Plot holes and unexplained facts in the game to not consider true the I.Theory...

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n00bsauce2010

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cavs25 wrote...

Why is it that the people that don't agree with the IT appear angry?
Like they are mad or something.


That seems to be the major question. We don't know.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

CheesieOnion wrote...

Silasqtx wrote...

http://i.imgur.com/1PpZ2.png

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Can someone confirm this? Maybe this is another troll trying to be funny.


He's not being a troll.....there's another thread going right now...this guy is ripping through game files....we thought this one was the most interesting as its the foliage from "Gilligans" Planet....and its labeled "Dream" foliage.....just wanted to fill you guys in


All these findings were posted and debated in this topic a few weeks ago, anyhow -- nothing new.

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Rifneno wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

Discuss the image and its message or the discussion at hand and stop trolling
I have my reasons for reintroducing it into the discussion over 1000 pages later.

They shouldnt matter to you. If you dont want to talk about the picture then dont, but making this about the poster instead of the post is obvious trolling.


Since you want to get all pissy about it, site rules. Take a looksie at number 6.

njfluffy19 wrote...

About the foliage. I say it's more of a point of proof than not. Why not just name it leafy_green_junk instead of adding the "dream" in there? I mean, they do use leaves in a lot of other places. They could have just as easily used them elsewhere first.


Presumably they made the dream stuff early in development. When they reused models from it later on for other stuff, they didn't bother changing the name. They do that a lot. Best example... the Purgatory nightclub on the Citadel? It's refered to in the files as Afterlife. :)
Model names might mean something, but only when we can be sure it's not just a recycle.


That's a good point, but then  the dreams dont have healthy green leaves of any sort. It's all dark and gloomy.  Those assets seem to appear in the Normandy landing. I haven't checked to be certain but, I would say that's the only place where these guys would be used if 'dream' was intentional.

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Rifneno

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cavs25 wrote...

Why is it that the people that don't agree with the IT appear angry?
Like they are mad or something.


Probably.  It sucks to find out you're wrong.

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Pathero

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Has anyone pointed this out yet?

Crucible is thought to be derived from Crux (Latin for Cross)
Bioware scheduled to make an anouncement about ME3 on April 6th, which is Good Friday?
An Anouncement about the Shepard...

Who else was called The Shepard....possibly of men?

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Picking Synthesis before it was cool.

Modifié par Pathero, 03 avril 2012 - 06:28 .


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njfluffy19

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Rifneno wrote...

cavs25 wrote...

Why is it that the people that don't agree with the IT appear angry?
Like they are mad or something.


Probably.  It sucks to find out you're wrong.


People get mad at the mad people who don't agree with the IT because they are mad.

=]

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I like Hipster Jesus.

#28542
nightcobra

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njfluffy19 wrote...

I like Hipster Jesus.


i'm more partial to the buddy christ myself

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#28543
njfluffy19

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

I like Hipster Jesus.


i'm more partial to the buddy christ myself


Lol.

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Pathero

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njfluffy19 wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

I like Hipster Jesus.


i'm more partial to the buddy christ myself


Lol.


Does someone want to do a 'Buddy Christ Deserves a Better Ending' sig?

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Have just read this article and though it would be worth sharing.

http://tlcsm.blogspo...-ignorance.html

"While we may be heavily invested in Mass Effect, at the end of the day it is only a story. Stories are important of course, they define us, our hopes, our dreams and our culture. They inspire us, they support us, they help us to see the world and ourselves in new ways. But ultimately all this is pointless if we cannot accept reality. Accepting reality doesn’t need to mean we need to stop acting against things we don’t like, or even things we may not be able to change. It means having the courage to accept the horrible, the atrocious and the vile as things that actually happen. Only then can we do something about them. If we cannot even allow ourselves to accept a bad ending to a work of fiction, how can we accept suffering, pain, corruption, extremism and totalitarianism in our own, real lives? If we cannot accept it is real, how can we change it?

The Mass Effect 3 indoctrination theory is only proving one thing - that people are capable of forming the most complex, intricate fabric of fallacious information and poor reasoning to weave a safety blanket against things they just don’t want to accept as true. It shows that people are happy to indoctrinate themselves against the world around them, without the aid of a vast alien mind. When we have the gift to understand and analyze the world around us, the fact people choose not to is the biggest let down of all."

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....... well if we get bad news we could always create reapers with the same logic as the game and only have them attack bioware and ea, and when they ask why, we'll say
"YOU KNOW WHY!!!"

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Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

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Rksmithers

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but bioware will only be mamed... not beaten... as for ea..... well.............. synthetics to kill you so synthetics dont kill you....

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njfluffy19

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SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)


But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

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Herr Igor wrote...

Have just read this article and though it would be worth sharing.

http://tlcsm.blogspo...-ignorance.html

"While we may be heavily invested in Mass Effect, at the end of the day it is only a story. Stories are important of course, they define us, our hopes, our dreams and our culture. They inspire us, they support us, they help us to see the world and ourselves in new ways. But ultimately all this is pointless if we cannot accept reality. Accepting reality doesn’t need to mean we need to stop acting against things we don’t like, or even things we may not be able to change. It means having the courage to accept the horrible, the atrocious and the vile as things that actually happen. Only then can we do something about them. If we cannot even allow ourselves to accept a bad ending to a work of fiction, how can we accept suffering, pain, corruption, extremism and totalitarianism in our own, real lives? If we cannot accept it is real, how can we change it?

The Mass Effect 3 indoctrination theory is only proving one thing - that people are capable of forming the most complex, intricate fabric of fallacious information and poor reasoning to weave a safety blanket against things they just don’t want to accept as true. It shows that people are happy to indoctrinate themselves against the world around them, without the aid of a vast alien mind. When we have the gift to understand and analyze the world around us, the fact people choose not to is the biggest let down of all."

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There is actually a thread in this forum that reproduces the whole thing in the OP.  I've read some of it, but not all.