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[Rksmithers]

we love you bioware... thats why we would do it... because we care...

[llbountyhunter]

njfluffy19 wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

werent the thorians those plants in me1 that took over the hope colonists..... hey and the thorian also had its own husk thingies and a kind of ID.


edit: but i dont think plants can become a space faring civilization... unless they ID other organics to do it for them.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 03 avril 2012 - 06:52 .

[SoulCr4dle]

njfluffy19 wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

maybe that reapers puberty pilgrimage mission
starting a cycle and find how and thats why soveirgn doesnt know about conduit

[SoulCr4dle]

llbountyhunter wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

werent the thorians those plants in me1 that took over the hope colonists..... hey and the thorian also had its own husk thingies and a kind of ID.


edit: but i dont think plants can become a space faring civilization... unless they ID other organics to do it for them.

Its been a while when i was played ME1 for a while and i might be wrong

[llbountyhunter]

SoulCr4dle wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

werent the thorians those plants in me1 that took over the hope colonists..... hey and the thorian also had its own husk thingies and a kind of ID.


edit: but i dont think plants can become a space faring civilization... unless they ID other organics to do it for them.

Its been a while when i was played ME1 for a while and i might be wrong

yeah. 
http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Thorian 

[LostLogics]

Went trough the game on NG+, and yes. The ending can't be much else but an illusion. The first run trough, I brought my LE. She shows up on the Normandy after the crash whether you want to or not. So, this time around I brought Garrius and Jarvik. Guess who shows up after the crash on the eden planet? Jarvik.
Bioware can't have let this happen by oversight. Guess we have to wait until PAX or something for some clearing up on how the game will actually end. DLC or unlocking content

[Rifneno]

Herr Igor wrote...

Have just read this article and though it would be worth sharing.

http://tlcsm.blogspo...-ignorance.html

"While we may be heavily invested in Mass Effect, at the end of the day it is only a story. Stories are important of course, they define us, our hopes, our dreams and our culture. They inspire us, they support us, they help us to see the world and ourselves in new ways. But ultimately all this is pointless if we cannot accept reality. Accepting reality doesn’t need to mean we need to stop acting against things we don’t like, or even things we may not be able to change. It means having the courage to accept the horrible, the atrocious and the vile as things that actually happen. Only then can we do something about them. If we cannot even allow ourselves to accept a bad ending to a work of fiction, how can we accept suffering, pain, corruption, extremism and totalitarianism in our own, real lives? If we cannot accept it is real, how can we change it?

The Mass Effect 3 indoctrination theory is only proving one thing - that people are capable of forming the most complex, intricate fabric of fallacious information and poor reasoning to weave a safety blanket against things they just don’t want to accept as true. It shows that people are happy to indoctrinate themselves against the world around them, without the aid of a vast alien mind. When we have the gift to understand and analyze the world around us, the fact people choose not to is the biggest let down of all."

ROFL.  "That's crazy.  I didn't notice any of that.  Surely I couldn't have missed it if it was there!  I'm great!  These people must be lunatics."
It's hilarious how convinced most of the vocal IT opponents are that they're right.

[SoulCr4dle]

llbountyhunter wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

werent the thorians those plants in me1 that took over the hope colonists..... hey and the thorian also had its own husk thingies and a kind of ID.


edit: but i dont think plants can become a space faring civilization... unless they ID other organics to do it for them.

Its been a while when i was played ME1 for a while and i might be wrong

yeah. 
http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Thorian 

that was so close man but my idea is still active about crucibles reaper tech parts maybe not thoarians but another race existed in first cycle

[llbountyhunter]

SoulCr4dle wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

SoulCr4dle wrote...

Guys what if Thorians are the Organic form of reapers?
Think about it Reapers might be the cyborg(syntetic) version of thoarians.
So it explains about the Reaper Tech in crucible doesnt it?
They vanish their organic forms and trying to be master race of all galaxy through the destroying organics.
Does anyone knows look like of thoarians? No... so thats might be the our answer.
(Thoarians: They are another organic life vanished by reapers who have indoctrination ability)

But they needed the Thorian for the Cipher. Doesn't really make sense that they would seek out something that they already had. Hrrrmmm.

werent the thorians those plants in me1 that took over the hope colonists..... hey and the thorian also had its own husk thingies and a kind of ID.


edit: but i dont think plants can become a space faring civilization... unless they ID other organics to do it for them.

Its been a while when i was played ME1 for a while and i might be wrong

yeah. 
http://masseffect.wi...om/wiki/Thorian 

that was so close man but my idea is still active about crucibles reaper tech parts maybe not thoarians but another race existed in first cycle

there might actually be something more to the thorian... I dunno it power is almost exactly like ID, and the fully controled peoplelook just like green husks..... coincidence?

[Fattness132]

ConVito wrote...

Anyone else see this thread? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10951718/3

The fact that BW actually labelled them as red/green/blue lends a lot of credence to the idea that it's not the true ending. It means they fully acknowledge that the ending, taken at face value, is as simplistic as everyone thinks it is. But it's also BioWare. They'd never knowingly let a game end like that. Indoc Theory, I await your big reveal.

EDIT: Unless it's fake. In that case the OP of that thread is just a douche who thinks he's clever.

Just looked - they are indeed labeled things like "LondonBlueIntro" etc.

[llbountyhunter]

ConVito wrote...

Anyone else see this thread? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10951718/3

The fact that BW actually labelled them as red/green/blue lends a lot of credence to the idea that it's not the true ending. It means they fully acknowledge that the ending, taken at face value, is as simplistic as everyone thinks it is. But it's also BioWare. They'd never knowingly let a game end like that. Indoc Theory, I await your big reveal.

EDIT: Unless it's fake. In that case the OP of that thread is just a douche who thinks he's clever.

its true, I just checked- luckily the picture didnt cut off the directory, so all I had to do was go their.

[CheesieOnion]

llbountyhunter wrote...

ConVito wrote...

Anyone else see this thread? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10951718/3

The fact that BW actually labelled them as red/green/blue lends a lot of credence to the idea that it's not the true ending. It means they fully acknowledge that the ending, taken at face value, is as simplistic as everyone thinks it is. But it's also BioWare. They'd never knowingly let a game end like that. Indoc Theory, I await your big reveal.

EDIT: Unless it's fake. In that case the OP of that thread is just a douche who thinks he's clever.

its true, I just checked- luckily the picture didnt cut off the directory, so all I had to do was go their.

Aren't  these just the current endings, with the scene where you see the soldiers fighting when the RGB blast comes by and disables or accends the reapers?

[n00bsauce2010]

CheesieOnion wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

ConVito wrote...

Anyone else see this thread? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10951718/3

The fact that BW actually labelled them as red/green/blue lends a lot of credence to the idea that it's not the true ending. It means they fully acknowledge that the ending, taken at face value, is as simplistic as everyone thinks it is. But it's also BioWare. They'd never knowingly let a game end like that. Indoc Theory, I await your big reveal.

EDIT: Unless it's fake. In that case the OP of that thread is just a douche who thinks he's clever.

its true, I just checked- luckily the picture didnt cut off the directory, so all I had to do was go their.

Aren't  these just the current endings, with the scene where you see the soldiers fighting when the RGB blast comes by and disables or accends the reapers?

The fact that the file names for the endings are color codes seems to suggest that even bioware understands how ludicrous the endings are.

[llbountyhunter]

CheesieOnion wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

ConVito wrote...

Anyone else see this thread? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10951718/3

The fact that BW actually labelled them as red/green/blue lends a lot of credence to the idea that it's not the true ending. It means they fully acknowledge that the ending, taken at face value, is as simplistic as everyone thinks it is. But it's also BioWare. They'd never knowingly let a game end like that. Indoc Theory, I await your big reveal.

EDIT: Unless it's fake. In that case the OP of that thread is just a douche who thinks he's clever.

its true, I just checked- luckily the picture didnt cut off the directory, so all I had to do was go their.

Aren't  these just the current endings, with the scene where you see the soldiers fighting when the RGB blast comes by and disables or accends the reapers?

yeah, and the destruction of the relays, i think it stops with the joker scene

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

llbountyhunter wrote...

ConVito wrote...

Anyone else see this thread? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10951718/3

The fact that BW actually labelled them as red/green/blue lends a lot of credence to the idea that it's not the true ending. It means they fully acknowledge that the ending, taken at face value, is as simplistic as everyone thinks it is. But it's also BioWare. They'd never knowingly let a game end like that. Indoc Theory, I await your big reveal.

EDIT: Unless it's fake. In that case the OP of that thread is just a douche who thinks he's clever.

its true, I just checked- luckily the picture didnt cut off the directory, so all I had to do was go their.

Interesting , you can see all known ending files in the game except End004.bik.The red , blue , green endings all are labled End03 or End3.You don't even see other files associated with it.

Modifié par LOST SPARTANJLC, 03 avril 2012 - 07:30 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Oh god...

[savagejuicebox]

Rifneno wrote...

Herr Igor wrote...

Have just read this article and though it would be worth sharing.

http://tlcsm.blogspo...-ignorance.html

"While we may be heavily invested in Mass Effect, at the end of the day it is only a story. Stories are important of course, they define us, our hopes, our dreams and our culture. They inspire us, they support us, they help us to see the world and ourselves in new ways. But ultimately all this is pointless if we cannot accept reality. Accepting reality doesn’t need to mean we need to stop acting against things we don’t like, or even things we may not be able to change. It means having the courage to accept the horrible, the atrocious and the vile as things that actually happen. Only then can we do something about them. If we cannot even allow ourselves to accept a bad ending to a work of fiction, how can we accept suffering, pain, corruption, extremism and totalitarianism in our own, real lives? If we cannot accept it is real, how can we change it?

The Mass Effect 3 indoctrination theory is only proving one thing - that people are capable of forming the most complex, intricate fabric of fallacious information and poor reasoning to weave a safety blanket against things they just don’t want to accept as true. It shows that people are happy to indoctrinate themselves against the world around them, without the aid of a vast alien mind. When we have the gift to understand and analyze the world around us, the fact people choose not to is the biggest let down of all."

ROFL.  "That's crazy.  I didn't notice any of that.  Surely I couldn't have missed it if it was there!  I'm great!  These people must be lunatics."
It's hilarious how convinced most of the vocal IT opponents are that they're right.

these^^^^ people CANT STAND to be wrong. They couldnt possibly of been tricked, no no they are to smart for that, therefore the IT cant possibly be true! right?? Pride, it keeps inteligent minds from being reasonable sometimes. I for one am glad i was tricked, but thats just me...

[benben84]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Oh god...

Todd Howard is from Bethesda...   o_O  Or was it the wrong vid?

[n00bsauce2010]

savagejuicebox wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Herr Igor wrote...

Have just read this article and though it would be worth sharing.

http://tlcsm.blogspo...-ignorance.html

"While we may be heavily invested in Mass Effect, at the end of the day it is only a story. Stories are important of course, they define us, our hopes, our dreams and our culture. They inspire us, they support us, they help us to see the world and ourselves in new ways. But ultimately all this is pointless if we cannot accept reality. Accepting reality doesn’t need to mean we need to stop acting against things we don’t like, or even things we may not be able to change. It means having the courage to accept the horrible, the atrocious and the vile as things that actually happen. Only then can we do something about them. If we cannot even allow ourselves to accept a bad ending to a work of fiction, how can we accept suffering, pain, corruption, extremism and totalitarianism in our own, real lives? If we cannot accept it is real, how can we change it?

The Mass Effect 3 indoctrination theory is only proving one thing - that people are capable of forming the most complex, intricate fabric of fallacious information and poor reasoning to weave a safety blanket against things they just don’t want to accept as true. It shows that people are happy to indoctrinate themselves against the world around them, without the aid of a vast alien mind. When we have the gift to understand and analyze the world around us, the fact people choose not to is the biggest let down of all."

ROFL.  "That's crazy.  I didn't notice any of that.  Surely I couldn't have missed it if it was there!  I'm great!  These people must be lunatics."
It's hilarious how convinced most of the vocal IT opponents are that they're right.

these^^^^ people CANT STAND to be wrong. They couldnt possibly of been tricked, no no they are to smart for that, therefore the IT cant possibly be true! right?? Pride, it keeps inteligent minds from being reasonable sometimes. I for one am glad i was tricked, but thats just me...

We've seen these arguments dozens of times bud. Thanks for the info Herr. But the way this article seeks to understand the developers is a stretch in itself. Comparing the in game evidence to the way a court system works? Absolutely hilarious. The article contains as many assumptions as IDT itself. It is written in a way that begs the question "Is the writer one of the many who rushed into b*tching about the ending before acknowledging that anything else took place".. the obvious answer... yes.

[waldstr18]

savagejuicebox wrote...

these^^^^ people CANT STAND to be wrong. They couldnt possibly of been tricked, no no they are to smart for that, therefore the IT cant possibly be true! right?? Pride, it keeps inteligent minds from being reasonable sometimes. I for one am glad i was tricked, but thats just me...

really?

i wouldnt mind being tricked by the game. i just dont like being tricked by you.

talking about tricks. april fools day is over. we can close this thread now.

[AdmiralsJack]

hey everybody,
are there any important news from Bioware since last week?

[Tirian Thorn]

savagejuicebox wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Herr Igor wrote...

Have just read this article and though it would be worth sharing.

http://tlcsm.blogspo...-ignorance.html

"While we may be heavily invested in Mass Effect, at the end of the day it is only a story. Stories are important of course, they define us, our hopes, our dreams and our culture. They inspire us, they support us, they help us to see the world and ourselves in new ways. But ultimately all this is pointless if we cannot accept reality. Accepting reality doesn’t need to mean we need to stop acting against things we don’t like, or even things we may not be able to change. It means having the courage to accept the horrible, the atrocious and the vile as things that actually happen. Only then can we do something about them. If we cannot even allow ourselves to accept a bad ending to a work of fiction, how can we accept suffering, pain, corruption, extremism and totalitarianism in our own, real lives? If we cannot accept it is real, how can we change it?

The Mass Effect 3 indoctrination theory is only proving one thing - that people are capable of forming the most complex, intricate fabric of fallacious information and poor reasoning to weave a safety blanket against things they just don’t want to accept as true. It shows that people are happy to indoctrinate themselves against the world around them, without the aid of a vast alien mind. When we have the gift to understand and analyze the world around us, the fact people choose not to is the biggest let down of all."

ROFL.  "That's crazy.  I didn't notice any of that.  Surely I couldn't have missed it if it was there!  I'm great!  These people must be lunatics."
It's hilarious how convinced most of the vocal IT opponents are that they're right.

these^^^^ people CANT STAND to be wrong. They couldnt possibly of been tricked, no no they are to smart for that, therefore the IT cant possibly be true! right?? Pride, it keeps inteligent minds from being reasonable sometimes. I for one am glad i was tricked, but thats just me...

One of my favorite conversations from The Chronicles of Narnia

Susan Pevensie: [about Lucy] She thinks she's found a magical land... In the upstairs wardrobe.
Professor Kirke: [eyes widening, he rushes to the children] What did you say?
Peter Pevensie: Um, the wardrobe. Upstairs. Lucy thinks she's found a forest inside.
Susan Pevensie: She won't stop going on about it.
Professor Kirke: What was it like?
Susan Pevensie: Like talking to a lunatic.
Professor Kirke: No, no, no. Not her, the forest!
Susan Pevensie: [stares] You're not saying you believe her?
Professor Kirke: You don't?
Susan Pevensie: But, of course not. I mean, logically it's impossible.
Professor Kirke: What do they teach in schools these days?
 
The professor goes on to use actual LOGIC to get Peter & Susan to believe Lucy is telling the truth. 

The ending of Mass Effect 3 is polarizing - that's what they (DEVS) wanted.  They wanted discussion, they wanted speculation.  If it were so "cut and dry" they would not have this level of involvment.  If it were so easy to use logic and reason to determine X, then it would have already been done. 

BUT - the ending isn't so easily dismissed.  It isn't as simple as "IDT is true" or "IDT is false."  At least not yet. 

We'll have to wait and see what Bioware does. 

So he's the "TRUTH" of all of it.  Until Bioware officially announces anything, IDT is just as valid as any other theory.  If you want to engage is discussion, that's fine.  But showing up and putting up posts that belittle people who believe in IDT, that's definately WRONG. 

[Dendio1]

Illusive Man doesnt care about your Approval


Dream Citadel Illusive Man cares about your Approval

[Tirian Thorn]

AdmiralsJack wrote...

hey everybody,
are there any important news from Bioware since last week?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bioware+news