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Big G13 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Very nice zipper fail.


Oh, i don't  think it was a fail on her part.

:lol:

Intentional tactical distraction???:o



Well, Shepard knows a thing or two about that particular tactic.


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YOU **** RULE.     Bow chicka bow bow. thats what I'm talkin' bout.:wub:


Not Bow Chicka Bow Wow, Blarg Chicka Honk Honk!

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balance5050 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my LEAST favorite comment on this thread.  Sorry Noob, but I completely disagree with you.  Halo innovates FAR more than CoD ever has.  Also, I love NCIS and CSI, so.... no, as I said before, I completely disagree with you.  Not enough to unfriend you, but still.


if you want a good tv show then you'll watch Breaking Bad. Other than that... nothing can really compare.  Maybe dexter before this last season.. but holy crap did season 6 SUCK. Walking Dead is good.. but some of the acting is inconsistent..along with the positioning of major plot points.

I just can't bring myself to watch a show like CSI that has boring characters and uses the same overall storyline for each episode. Dexter uses similar techniques.. but it's actually good.

Yep. I bought the original Xbox and picked up Halo and Halo 2. Not my cup of tea. I even have halo on PC. And I've seen some CSI... boring.


DOOOD! Don't forget Game of Thrones!!


I've seen the first 4-5 episodes.. It's awesome.. BUT GAH! i need some HBO!

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OK, time to get off for the night. See you all later.

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Guys, no need to fight! This community is awesome!

Everyone gather in for a group hug!



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As i was always told to each their own so everyone doesnt like halo no big surprise there...but i will advocate about csi yes some of them seem to use the same plot over and over again but not all of them an example would be that body parts were literally found in a piece of art in a gallery...but its csi so it supposed to be based on murder cases. Then another series is called csi:special victims unit this is based around rape and kidnappings...These are both shows based on real police forces...but not real cases. If this comes across as rude it isnt supposed.

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lex0r is that a picture of Synthesis?

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venusflytrap1 wrote...

As i was always told to each their own so everyone doesnt like halo no big surprise there...but i will advocate about csi yes some of them seem to use the same plot over and over again but not all of them an example would be that body parts were literally found in a piece of art in a gallery...but its csi so it supposed to be based on murder cases. Then another series is called csi:special victims unit this is based around rape and kidnappings...These are both shows based on real police forces...but not real cases. If this comes across as rude it isnt supposed.


Yes but dexter uses the same technique. Crime scenes, murders, rapes, kidnappings.. and it makes it interesting.

Back to ME3 discussion though. Any arguments or thoughts someone wants adressed?

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lex0r11 wrote...

Guys, no need to fight! This community is awesome!

Everyone gather in for a group hug!


As always, sir, well done. :lol:

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Mama thresher maw would probably advocate for a gun that fires her younglings at Reapers.
:D

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If anyone has not seen


http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s


mind = blow

#28986
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MACharlie1 wrote...

I'm sure this was already posted but.

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what is the significance?

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savagejuicebox wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I'm sure this was already posted but.

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what is the significance?


I think it's the M.To me after seeing 1M1 in ME1 , I no longer think that numbers/letters mean anything toward indoctination. 

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Wow ya'll have really gone off-topic lately :/ Anyone else have any wild ideas that explain the Normandy bit of the ending?

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leonia42 wrote...

Wow ya'll have really gone off-topic lately :/ Anyone else have any wild ideas that explain the Normandy bit of the ending?


Other than it's been proven that they didn't take a mass relay because it is way too far away to reach in time
They could not have left Sol because leaving sol would take even longer than reaching the relay
And there are no inhabitable planets in the Sol system that have two moons.
Therefore there is no way that normady scene could be anything but a trick of Shepard's mind

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njfluffy19 wrote...

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Here is a creepy thought. How many ardat yakshi were in that monastery? Hundreds? Didn't Samara say there were three? Anyway, like I said those are not potbellies, walking broodmothers?!


I so wanted to bring that up to her.  Is that wrong?  I wanted to toss a bag of banshee heads at her feet and yell "Two more my ass!  What the hell, Samara?!"  God...

Samara also said Ardat-Yakshi are sterile.  Given Samara's track record, DuskRose is right, they must have the potbelly because they're pregnant.


I blame broshep. He's willing to sleep with anything that has two legs and a heartbeat.



This quote is from a while back, but had to reply.

I can agree on heartbeat, but legcount, who needs that?

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Golferguy758 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Wow ya'll have really gone off-topic lately :/ Anyone else have any wild ideas that explain the Normandy bit of the ending?


Other than it's been proven that they didn't take a mass relay because it is way too far away to reach in time
They could not have left Sol because leaving sol would take even longer than reaching the relay
And there are no inhabitable planets in the Sol system that have two moons.
Therefore there is no way that normady scene could be anything but a trick of Shepard's mind


Discounting my theory that they went through the Conduit?

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leonia42 wrote...

Wow ya'll have really gone off-topic lately :/ Anyone else have any wild ideas that explain the Normandy bit of the ending?

Other than Joker is a total coward who ran away from the battle and some how used space magic to get your LI and team mates on board before he ran? No.

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What if you were Shepards last ditch attempt to break IT but instead you pick the control or snythisese. Personaly I thought that &ioware through those chocies in because the people who have not played the first two games don't really now synthises is what Saren was at the end of ME. And now a new out of nowhere option can let you control the Reapers just my killing your self.

That can be the reasonwhy Bioware did that at the end for players who have not played it can go buy ME and ME2 so that Bioware get's more money, plus get's the lazy gamers that just play multiplayer to go do some reaserch about ME story/universe.

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Cucobr wrote...

If anyone has not seen


http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s


mind = blow


THIS, HOLY ****!

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leonia42 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Wow ya'll have really gone off-topic lately :/ Anyone else have any wild ideas that explain the Normandy bit of the ending?


Other than it's been proven that they didn't take a mass relay because it is way too far away to reach in time
They could not have left Sol because leaving sol would take even longer than reaching the relay
And there are no inhabitable planets in the Sol system that have two moons.
Therefore there is no way that normady scene could be anything but a trick of Shepard's mind


Discounting my theory that they went through the Conduit?


The conduit only goes into the Citadel. I don't think the Normandy would fit inside very well.

Unless you also have a theory on the conduit leading somewhere else.

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And I make my exit for the night
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manjikengo wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

If anyone has not seen


http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s


mind = blow


THIS, HOLY ****!


What. the.. what.

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ConVito wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Wow ya'll have really gone off-topic lately :/ Anyone else have any wild ideas that explain the Normandy bit of the ending?


Other than it's been proven that they didn't take a mass relay because it is way too far away to reach in time
They could not have left Sol because leaving sol would take even longer than reaching the relay
And there are no inhabitable planets in the Sol system that have two moons.
Therefore there is no way that normady scene could be anything but a trick of Shepard's mind


Discounting my theory that they went through the Conduit?


The conduit only goes into the Citadel. I don't think the Normandy would fit inside very well.

Unless you also have a theory on the conduit leading somewhere else.


I'm proposing the Conduit doesn't go to the Citadel at all and rather goes to Mystery Garden Planet (which may or may not be a part of Ilos we didn't see in ME1). And if the Conduit does go to the Citadel, well, the Citadel is huge and the Normandy theoretically should be able to use it without any major risk (provided the landing area isn't in that tiny tunnel area that leads straight to the control panel). I mentioned it a few pages back but basically I think Shepard gets knocked out before charging the Conduit and everything from that point is going on in her head while the Normandy is trying to escape a rather desperate situation.


Anyway I'm trying to think outside the box a bit, we've coved a LOT of the same ground multiple times in this thread and it's easy to get caught up on the same ideas over and over but maybe we haven't quite solved the mystery yet.

Modifié par leonia42, 04 avril 2012 - 04:27 .


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manjikengo wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

If anyone has not seen


http://www.youtube.c...g5xltLkk#t=291s


mind = blow


THIS, HOLY ****!


Didn't they also say the endings wouldn't be like LOST/A,B,C and yet what do the current endings look like.

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Has anyone else noticed that Commander Shepard can walk through the Keepers on the Citadel like they are holograms at the end part.I do not believe that this is a design oversight.Shep can't walk through the keepers at any other part of the game.

So you have the Hand Canon having Infinite Ammo, Holographic Keepers, Admiral Anderson acting like an enthusiastic kid wanting to explore his enviroment.Going on ahead, instead of waiting for Shep to back him up. And the Illusive Man appearing out of nowhere.I don't know.Maybe he had an Infiltration Cloak on or something.But there are many things during the last ten or so minutes of the game, that indicate that things may not be as they appear.

I don't know if Shepard was being Indoctrinated or if he was having an hallucination.But even if you decide to take everything that happens at face value.There are many reasons to be very circumspect, when it comes to the starchild.

Consider what we have seen... Very early in the adventure, Shepard discovers that EDI can lie and has deceived organics on several occasions.Later on, we learn that even Legion wasn't all that honest with Shep, once or twice.Baring this all in mind-- why should any of us just take what the Citadel AI (or whatever Godboy is) says as truth and fact?

You don't have to agree with IT, but the Starchild is far from a trustworthy source of intel.Look at the sinster way he smiles if you chose the "Control" option.I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare reveals that Project Crucible was a Reaper Trojan Horse.All the signs are there.

Think about it.How is it remotely possible for the Reapers to have not known about a device designed to end them, that has been in development for multiple extinction cycles. Somehow, the next race in line for Reaperization, just happens to find these plans, and keep the Reapers in the dark about it.

For crying out loud.Weren't the Reapers landing on or near the Prothean Archives on Mars, right when Shep was leaving?

Modifié par ubermensch007, 04 avril 2012 - 04:30 .