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Soul Tumor wrote...

Why does shepards voice have a dream like echo when he is talking to starchild?


There's also an echo when you fire the gun up there.

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Chyliss wrote...

Soul Tumor wrote...

Why does shepards voice have a dream like echo when he is talking to starchild?


There's also an echo when you fire the gun up there.


Everyone knows space is really echoey.

Thats just a ScienceFact™!

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byne wrote...

Chyliss wrote...

Soul Tumor wrote...

Why does shepards voice have a dream like echo when he is talking to starchild?


There's also an echo when you fire the gun up there.


Everyone knows space is really echoey.

Thats just a ScienceFact™!


Yeah, because we ALL know that a vacuum echos sound.  Nothing weird at all. <_<

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

Chyliss wrote...

Soul Tumor wrote...

Why does shepards voice have a dream like echo when he is talking to starchild?


There's also an echo when you fire the gun up there.


Everyone knows space is really echoey.

Thats just a ScienceFact™!


Yeah, because we ALL know that a vacuum echos sound.  Nothing weird at all. <_<


Exactly!

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Whats this about a data pad on earth saying the beam is an indoctrination device?

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byne wrote...

Chyliss wrote...

Soul Tumor wrote...

Why does shepards voice have a dream like echo when he is talking to starchild?


There's also an echo when you fire the gun up there.


Everyone knows space is really echoey.

Thats just a ScienceFact™!


But I thought...

In space, no one can hear you scream...!

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AHHHH, PUT SOME PANTS ON, SIGOURNEY!

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I also want to believe in the indoc theory. Just dont want to belive it so much that i get dissapointed if it turns out to be false.

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Yeah in single player, but in multiplayer vanguards are the biggest douche nozzles known to man. Not only are they point ****s but the get downed out in the open away from teammates ALL THE TIME! I hate them(in mp).

<_<


I love Vanguard in MP.  They can clean up.  BUT - I can see where you wouldn't like them.  I've been killed by teammates so many times because of "Charging" in and then getting in their crossfire. 

I just use the Avenger Assault Rifle (X) and that's the only weapon I carry. 

As an adept I use just a pistol and just spam out biotic attacks.  (way more party friendly) 


How can you die from friendly crossfire when it's not supposed to do damage?


Your squadmates weapons can do damage to you.  If you hit another player you will hear something like "check your fire" or "cut it out"


Yeah, I always got the cut it out, but my shields never went down a bit. I edited my previous post to add that I had read an article that said friendly fire is not supposed to be possible, so I wanted to know if the article was wrong. If someone can test this in a controlled environment, this could be answered empirically. I can only play with strangers because no-one I know has ME3 on PC. The best scenario would be to have one player shoot the other at the start of a match, before any enemies spawn. Then ask if that player's shields were damaged.

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*sniff* :crying:Sorry....after all those times I decided to roleplay a bit in MP during difficult games and play a self-sacraficing character and draw the enemies away from the extraction point too.

(Vanguard is like playing as Superman in a cover-based shooter.  ' Ah Yes "Cover", we have dismissed that tactic'

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hahaha its ok, i just hate you. :D

Cover based gameplay what a concept, eh?

Modifié par savagejuicebox, 04 avril 2012 - 07:01 .


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Either.Ardrey wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

savagejuicebox wrote...

Yeah in single player, but in multiplayer vanguards are the biggest douche nozzles known to man. Not only are they point ****s but the get downed out in the open away from teammates ALL THE TIME! I hate them(in mp).

<_<


I love Vanguard in MP.  They can clean up.  BUT - I can see where you wouldn't like them.  I've been killed by teammates so many times because of "Charging" in and then getting in their crossfire. 

I just use the Avenger Assault Rifle (X) and that's the only weapon I carry. 

As an adept I use just a pistol and just spam out biotic attacks.  (way more party friendly) 


How can you die from friendly crossfire when it's not supposed to do damage?


Your squadmates weapons can do damage to you.  If you hit another player you will hear something like "check your fire" or "cut it out"


Yeah, I always got the cut it out, but my shields never went down a bit. I edited my previous post to add that I had read an article that said friendly fire is not supposed to be possible, so I wanted to know if the article was wrong. If someone can test this in a controlled environment, this could be answered empirically. I can only play with strangers because no-one I know has ME3 on PC. The best scenario would be to have one player shoot the other at the start of a match, before any enemies spawn. Then ask if that player's shields were damaged.


Hear, send me a friend request through Origin.  My account is: threerocks.  Just a heads up, I don't use my mic, but if I had to I could.  I don't think I could do anything today, but I probably could do something this week.  Also, anyone else who wants to friend me through Origin, go right ahead, I could use some people I actually kind of know to play with.  

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OK guys, I have to head out for a while. See you all later.

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Caz Tirin wrote...

I... I'm shocked. Every interaction I've had with IT supporters so far has been negative and confrontational. Because of the reaction I received to my post on page 1173, I feel I must apologize for any of the confrontational and/or negative undertones it has toward or against the IT crowd. I still don't believe IT and no matter what BioWare says I will never be convinced it was the intended story progression, but it's clear (now) I've only encountered the fanatical morons until today. Thank you to those that are kind and friendly about this topic.


It's cool. Though I have to admit Im shaking my head at the whole EA voted worst company of the year and such. Honestly Im sorely disappointed by it and I do hope that PAX proves a lot of people wrong in their actions over the past few weeks. 

Back on topic Im going to have a look at your counter arguments and see if theres any debunking to go on that hasn't been touched on. Reading over it I'm not too sure if IT is an easy way out or not, but I can think of easier ways out then the IT.

Maybe a text wall or something like that depicting what happened afterwards would be an easier way out and ignoring the subtle and not so subtle hints that were in the past forty hours or so. Or worse leaving it completely alone. Perhaps the ones who try and look for things within the game to support IT are insane and such (myself included) but tis best to have hope and put that effort into a positive use.

PS - Im on my second playthrough after the first one, saw some hints but not all of them hence Im going back into the brink.

Modifié par Domanese, 04 avril 2012 - 07:15 .


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njfluffy19 wrote...

byne wrote...

Chyliss wrote...

Soul Tumor wrote...

Why does shepards voice have a dream like echo when he is talking to starchild?


There's also an echo when you fire the gun up there.


Everyone knows space is really echoey.

Thats just a ScienceFact™!


But I thought...

In space, no one can hear you scream...!

Image IPB

AHHHH, PUT SOME PANTS ON, SIGOURNEY!




Seeing as she's the last person aboard, uh couldn't she lose the undies?

Just my kinda gurl is all, I should go.Image IPB

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I remember being a kid and watching that movie and wondering why Sigourney didn't wear undies that fit.

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Domanese wrote...


It's cool. Though I have to admit Im shaking my head at the whole EA voted worst company of the year and such. Honestly Im sorely disappointed by it and I do hope that PAX proves a lot of people wrong in their actions over the past few weeks. 




EA is not Bioware.  In my opinion EA is an inferior gaming company - they just own Bioware. 

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Dwailing wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

savagejuicebox wrote...

Yeah in single player, but in multiplayer vanguards are the biggest douche nozzles known to man. Not only are they point ****s but the get downed out in the open away from teammates ALL THE TIME! I hate them(in mp).

<_<


I love Vanguard in MP.  They can clean up.  BUT - I can see where you wouldn't like them.  I've been killed by teammates so many times because of "Charging" in and then getting in their crossfire. 

I just use the Avenger Assault Rifle (X) and that's the only weapon I carry. 

As an adept I use just a pistol and just spam out biotic attacks.  (way more party friendly) 


How can you die from friendly crossfire when it's not supposed to do damage?


Your squadmates weapons can do damage to you.  If you hit another player you will hear something like "check your fire" or "cut it out"


Yeah, I always got the cut it out, but my shields never went down a bit. I edited my previous post to add that I had read an article that said friendly fire is not supposed to be possible, so I wanted to know if the article was wrong. If someone can test this in a controlled environment, this could be answered empirically. I can only play with strangers because no-one I know has ME3 on PC. The best scenario would be to have one player shoot the other at the start of a match, before any enemies spawn. Then ask if that player's shields were damaged.


Hear, send me a friend request through Origin.  My account is: threerocks.  Just a heads up, I don't use my mic, but if I had to I could.  I don't think I could do anything today, but I probably could do something this week.  Also, anyone else who wants to friend me through Origin, go right ahead, I could use some people I actually kind of know to play with.  


I totally understand the mic thing. I don't really use mine, either. Speaking of either, my account is Either_Ardrey (or some variation of it). You should see the request in about 5.5 hours or so.

When it does happen, we could just shoot each other a bunch and post our findings, if that's preferable. Bypass the mic entirely.:D

I'll add you as soon as I get home from work. I use my lunch break to catch up here.

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Either.Ardrey wrote...


I totally understand the mic thing. I don't really use mine, either. Speaking of either, my account is Either_Ardrey (or some variation of it). You should see the request in about 5.5 hours or so.

When it does happen, we could just shoot each other a bunch and post our findings, if that's preferable. Bypass the mic entirely.:D

I'll add you as soon as I get home from work. I use my lunch break to catch up here.


"Lets get together to shoot each other in the face a bunch!"

"YES! That sounds like a great idea!"


"But lets not talk to each other!"


"Of course not!"


I'm imagining a conversation like this taking place between two soldiers in real life.

Modifié par byne, 04 avril 2012 - 07:19 .


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byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


I totally understand the mic thing. I don't really use mine, either. Speaking of either, my account is Either_Ardrey (or some variation of it). You should see the request in about 5.5 hours or so.

When it does happen, we could just shoot each other a bunch and post our findings, if that's preferable. Bypass the mic entirely.:D

I'll add you as soon as I get home from work. I use my lunch break to catch up here.


"Lets get together to shoot each other in the face a bunch!"

"YES! That sounds like a great idea!"


I'm imagining a conversation like this taking place between two soldiers in real life.


I don't understand what's the problem with using a mic? I mean if it's overused, sure. Then you sound like an attention grubbing d-bag. :mellow:

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Domanese wrote...


It's cool. Though I have to admit Im shaking my head at the whole EA voted worst company of the year and such. Honestly Im sorely disappointed by it and I do hope that PAX proves a lot of people wrong in their actions over the past few weeks. 




EA is not Bioware.  In my opinion EA is an inferior gaming company - they just own Bioware. 


But thats the problem to me. They do own Bioware and currently Bioware is the reason they have such grief which more then likely will result in Bioware being the one that suffers for it. Not EA.

The more reactions I see in regards to the ending the more it looks like Disproportionate Retribution. It doesn't feel like the message we want to convey is the one that is being conveyed. The cupcake thing was fine and felt more like a positive step.

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Domanese wrote...


It's cool. Though I have to admit Im shaking my head at the whole EA voted worst company of the year and such. Honestly Im sorely disappointed by it and I do hope that PAX proves a lot of people wrong in their actions over the past few weeks. 




EA is not Bioware.  In my opinion EA is an inferior gaming company - they just own Bioware. 


The problem I see with people saying "Ea is terrible or the worst company" is that it's just an overused statement to suggest they're the reason behind this whole ending fiasco.. or just the scapegoat for the need to blame someone.

EA has plenty of good titles imho...

Battlefield, Dead Space, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Kingdoms of Amalur, Burnout, Need for Speed, Army of Two...

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Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Whats this about a data pad on earth saying the beam is an indoctrination device?


What? I haven't heard of this at least.

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njfluffy19 wrote...


I don't understand what's the problem with using a mic? I mean if it's overused, sure. Then you sound like an attention grubbing d-bag. :mellow:



I was in a PUG and one of the guys kept congradulating us all on what a great job we were doing after EVERY WAVE.  On bronze. 

Then was yelling at us during extraction to get to the LZ even when we had 1 min left.  He was yelling "GET TO THE EXTRACTION POINT FOR MORE POINTS!!!!"  over and over. 

I didn't have my mic set up or I would have said something back... 

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n00bsauce2010 wrote...


The problem I see with people saying "Ea is terrible or the worst company" is that it's just an overused statement to suggest they're the reason behind this whole ending fiasco.. or just the scapegoat for the need to blame someone.

EA has plenty of good titles imho...

Battlefield, Dead Space, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Kingdoms of Amalur, Burnout, Need for Speed, Army of Two...



The reason I don't like EA is they are usually the ones adding the extras to prevent piracy that just make playing games more obnoxious for paying customers.  They are more worried about their "lost sales" due to piracy than taking care of the actual paying customers. 

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 04 avril 2012 - 07:24 .


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I like vanguards in multiplayer. I dislike Asari Vanguards. Mostly cause they spam statis bubble on everything. Which is fine...unless you are playing an adept and now are forced to spamming warp while they get all the points via biotic explosion.

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...


I don't understand what's the problem with using a mic? I mean if it's overused, sure. Then you sound like an attention grubbing d-bag. :mellow:



I was in a PUG and one of the guys kept congradulating us all on what a great job we were doing after EVERY WAVE.  On bronze. 

Then was yelling at us during extraction to get to the LZ even when we had 1 min left.  He was yelling "GET TO THE EXTRACTION POINT FOR MORE POINTS!!!!"  over and over. 

I didn't have my mic set up or I would have said something back... 


On bronze? Lul! What a dork.