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[llbountyhunter]

 

[Acturas]

^^ LOL

@thericeman - Interesting point

Modifié par Acturas, 04 avril 2012 - 08:09 .

[RorickHuon]

llbountyhunter wrote...

 

Love this! lol!!

[Ageless Face]

there is something i don't understand about the theory. i'm sorry if someone brought it up before, but the indoctrination theory makes the end choices sound more tactical and less choices of moral. I'm pretty sure bioware meant the ending be of morality, and not fooling people into believing that their noble choice (meaning choosing to control the reapers or synthesis) was actually the wrong one. So even if your theory is right, there must be more to it than "only the option of destroying the reapers is the right one".
I like the theory, and i do hope it's true. But i think that if what you mean is that only the option of destroy will get Shepard out of the indoctrination, or there will be no consequences of going that road, i'm pretty sure you can say goodbye to the theory, because there is a very little chance it will become reality.

[n00bsauce2010]

HagarIshay wrote...

there is something i don't understand about the theory. i'm sorry if someone brought it up before, but the indoctrination theory makes the end choices sound more tactical and less choices of moral. I'm pretty sure bioware meant the ending be of morality, and not fooling people into believing that their noble choice (meaning choosing to control the reapers or synthesis) was actually the wrong one. So even if your theory is right, there must be more to it than "only the option of destroying the reapers is the right one".
I like the theory, and i do hope it's true. But i think that if what you mean is that only the option of destroy will get Shepard out of the indoctrination, or there will be no consequences of going that road, i'm pretty sure you can say goodbye to the theory, because there is a very little chance it will become reality.

No.. the indoctrination theory works with all 3 choices.

The destroy option is the only way to free yourself from their grasp.

While the others will display some sort of concequences in the ending.. like death of a squadmate.. suicide, etc.

We've had fans conjure up some good ideas.. so to say the least.. i'm sure bioware could address it much better than us.

[balance5050]

Guys, I just read this on Micheal Gambles twitter:

Chrisopher
@masseffect @bioware @CaseyDHudson @GambleMike @JessicaMerizan
"With Prometheus Ridley Scott Perfects what ME3 missed:
http://tinyurl.com/d8bo7sf

Jessica Merizan
@fpsanalyst
lol comparison doesn't make any sense. It discuses a film's marketing campaign. We did a hugely successful ARG if you recall


Michael Gamble
@JessicaMerizan @fpsanalyst
yeah. I really don't get the comparison. Plus, there were some glaring inaccuracies with the ME3 representation.


Robert Marquardt
@GambleMike
Well in the past ridley scott's films have come full circle and have made sense with their endings. I think thats what they mean

Michael Gamble
@The_R3medy
How many years did it take for Scott to confirm that Deckard was a Replicant? 20?

[somecrazyname]

Has this scene been mentioned yet? It provides additional support that Shepard is under incredible stress during ME3. Also, Joker's half-robot remark. I'm probably just grasping straws, but it's interesting.

[Tirian Thorn]

HagarIshay wrote...

there is something i don't understand about the theory. i'm sorry if someone brought it up before, but the indoctrination theory makes the end choices sound more tactical and less choices of moral. I'm pretty sure bioware meant the ending be of morality, and not fooling people into believing that their noble choice (meaning choosing to control the reapers or synthesis) was actually the wrong one. So even if your theory is right, there must be more to it than "only the option of destroying the reapers is the right one".
I like the theory, and i do hope it's true. But i think that if what you mean is that only the option of destroy will get Shepard out of the indoctrination, or there will be no consequences of going that road, i'm pretty sure you can say goodbye to the theory, because there is a very little chance it will become reality.

IF that is the case then riddle me this; why is the destroy power conduit colored RED while the control conduit is colored BLUE? 
Throughout all 3 games Blue has been used to represent paragon while Red represents renegade.  

[n00bsauce2010]

balance5050 wrote...

Guys, I just read this on Micheal Gambles twitter:

Chrisopher
@masseffect @bioware @CaseyDHudson @GambleMike @JessicaMerizan
"With Prometheus Ridley Scott Perfects what ME3 missed:
http://tinyurl.com/d8bo7sf

Jessica Merizan
@fpsanalyst
lol comparison doesn't make any sense. It discuses a film's marketing campaign. We did a hugely successful ARG if you recall


Michael Gamble
@JessicaMerizan @fpsanalyst
yeah. I really don't get the comparison. Plus, there were some glaring inaccuracies with the ME3 representation.


Robert Marquardt
@GambleMike
Well in the past ridley scott's films have come full circle and have made sense with their endings. I think thats what they mean

Michael Gamble
@The_R3medy
How many years did it take for Scott to confirm that Deckard was a Replicant? 20?

I'm confused about what they're contemplating.

[n00bsauce2010]

somecrazyname wrote...



Has this scene been mentioned yet? It provides additional support that Shepard is under incredible stress during ME3. Also, Joker's half-robot remark. I'm probably just grasping straws, but it's interesting.

It's been brought up before.

[Lakeshow1986]

This?

[BinaryHelix101]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

there is something i don't understand about the theory. i'm sorry if someone brought it up before, but the indoctrination theory makes the end choices sound more tactical and less choices of moral. I'm pretty sure bioware meant the ending be of morality, and not fooling people into believing that their noble choice (meaning choosing to control the reapers or synthesis) was actually the wrong one. So even if your theory is right, there must be more to it than "only the option of destroying the reapers is the right one".
I like the theory, and i do hope it's true. But i think that if what you mean is that only the option of destroy will get Shepard out of the indoctrination, or there will be no consequences of going that road, i'm pretty sure you can say goodbye to the theory, because there is a very little chance it will become reality.

IF that is the case then riddle me this; why is the destroy power conduit colored RED while the control conduit is colored BLUE? 
Throughout all 3 games Blue has been used to represent paragon while Red represents renegade.  

If you had done any reading on the basics of IT, you'd know this.

It's a reaper trick. They're trying to convince you that the "good" thing to do is to control the reapers.

Since when is TIM paragon and Anderson renegade. It's a trick.

EDIT: After re-reading both your posts, I'm not actually sure which one of you I'm responding to. Oh well, it's late out here. Maybe I should think/sleep before I post.

Modifié par BinaryHelix101, 04 avril 2012 - 08:21 .

[n00bsauce2010]

As revealed by the Prothean VI Vendetta, the Crucible wasn't originally designed by the Protheans, but was rather the work of other species throughout the cycles of extinction stretching back millions of years, improving upon it. The Protheans were close to deploying it when a group of separatists thought to control the Reapers rather than destroy them.

Obviously controlling the reapers didn't work.

I know that the above information has been brought up. But it seems to me that is definiitive evidence that controlling the reapers does not work.

[schneeland]

Lakeshow1986 wrote...



This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

[BinaryHelix101]

In that datapad though, they don't say anything about a beam or a conduit. They only talk of "that place".

[n00bsauce2010]

schneeland wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...


This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

Where is it located? the datapad

[BinaryHelix101]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

As revealed by the Prothean VI Vendetta, the Crucible wasn't originally designed by the Protheans, but was rather the work of other species throughout the cycles of extinction stretching back millions of years, improving upon it. The Protheans were close to deploying it when a group of separatists thought to control the Reapers rather than destroy them.

Obviously controlling the reapers didn't work.

I know that the above information has been brought up. But it seems to me that is definiitive evidence that controlling the reapers does not work.

I'm pretty sure they never reached the Catalyst area. I think they're only bringing that separatist thing up to tell us that the reason they didn't get the Crucible finished is because they started fighting amongst themselves.

[lex0r11]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...


This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

Where is it located? the datapad

Is it maybe the one in the room after the two brutes charge at you?

[Espache]

[Lakeshow1986]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...


This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

Where is it located? the datapad

Near Liara when your meeting your squad for the "final" time.

To me, "that place" refers to the beam as there isn't that many other noticable area in London.  Just my view 

[RorickHuon]

lex0r11 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...


This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

Where is it located? the datapad

Is it maybe the one in the room after the two brutes charge at you?

Nah its in aroom after you speak to Liara and share memories. Not sure if it's talking about the beam. Though its the only place we can pin it to atm. 

[schneeland]

BinaryHelix101 wrote...

In that datapad though, they don't say anything about a beam or a conduit. They only talk of "that place".

Agreed. We cannot tell for sure, but the beam/the Citadel is the only place that seems special.

However, what surprises me a bit - how long is Citadel in Earth orbit when Shepard arrives? I do not remember exactly, but its like a day or two, isn't it?

[schneeland]

RorickHuon wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...


This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

Where is it located? the datapad

Is it maybe the one in the room after the two brutes charge at you?

Nah its in aroom after you speak to Liara and share memories. Not sure if it's talking about the beam. Though its the only place we can pin it to atm. 

Are you sure? I also somehow thought that it was in one of the rooms right before the missile thing.

[KILLER SQUIDZ]

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

As revealed by the Prothean VI Vendetta, the Crucible wasn't originally designed by the Protheans, but was rather the work of other species throughout the cycles of extinction stretching back millions of years, improving upon it. The Protheans were close to deploying it when a group of separatists thought to control the Reapers rather than destroy them.

Obviously controlling the reapers didn't work.

I know that the above information has been brought up. But it seems to me that is definiitive evidence that controlling the reapers does not work.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that the VI also stated that the Protheans which favored the 'control plan' were later discovered to be indoctrinated. Could be just one more piece of evidence to support the theory.

[RorickHuon]

schneeland wrote...

RorickHuon wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

n00bsauce2010 wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...


This?

Yeah, I think the second paragraph, in particular, is very telling.

Where is it located? the datapad

Is it maybe the one in the room after the two brutes charge at you?

Nah its in aroom after you speak to Liara and share memories. Not sure if it's talking about the beam. Though its the only place we can pin it to atm. 

Are you sure? I also somehow thought that it was in one of the rooms right before the missile thing.

yeah, its very easy to miss. The room is pitch black and the only thing there is that datapad