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[MegumiAzusa]

Ravel1992 wrote...

I see it is really easy to break your hope.

Wait for PAX people.

Hold the line.

It's people always assuming the worst.

[sergio71785]

I noticed this datapad in the Earth base before the final push. It's clearly about indoctrination. But what "place" was the author referring to?

[Dwailing]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

When did Waldstr18 change his account name?

[Big G13]

creiGn wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

creiGn wrote...

 Well, it was quite obvious that they did not have a "secret ending" so to speak. Though i would not want to despise those who truly believed in IT, it was mostly grasping at straws unfortunately.

Besides, despite being a deus ex machina cliche(and of course the three colour thing), real major downside of the endings was lack of closure.

A few minor tweaks here and there and some closure should do just fine. For example; all starchild and stargazer stuff is quite meaningless and should be altered easily, thus making a good enough ending for the Mass Effect.


I'm not a Bioware fan anymore i think but, i also think we all should get over our disappointment and stop beating the crap out of them. They seem to be reacting to fanbase as best as they can. It has to count for something good when they have a company like EA looking over their shoulders.

Really. In ME1 we kicked the crap out of Sarin. In ME2 we took our crew through the Omega 4 relay and kicked the crap out of the collectors. In ME3 everyone who came to Earth to help us fight the reapers are now trapped there never to see their loved ones again. I realize your trying to be nice and I'm trying not to completely unload on you, but come on. This was worse than a bad ending. It was an ending full of hopelessness.

I hated the ending, really, i was like "OH GOD, WHY" actually. I'm not trying to justify the ending, i'm just saying current ending is the real ending and they'll try to find a middle way between the ending and fan reaction to it.

I'd be more than happy with Shepard and Anderson having their conversation and dying(damn you Hackett) content knowing that they have done it. 

But please tell me; wouldn't you be content if there wasn't any starchild/stargazer crap at all with a bit of closure? Like what happened to our friends, crew members, fleet we brought up together. Knowing that my beloved friend Tali have a home on Rannoch, maybe even married to Garrus, Wrex kicking ass and taking names while bringing krogan to glory, Ash becoming an admiral in Alliance etc., I would be happy.

*I know i skipped the part that Shepard murdering organics by blowing mass relays to hell but, I'm counting on some alterations as i mentioned before.

YES. That would be fantastic. I stand before bioware and plead, "take me if you must but let my crew be happy" I just don't see how Tali is going to get to Rannoch with the all the relays destroyed. Unless they scrap the whole ending and say 'just kidding, every one is O.K. But thank you for being hopeful and trying to make me feel better. hooollddd theeee lii.....

[steve3194]

http://www.justpushs...d-for-pax-east/

You guys have probably seen this already.

I know its not official. But it gives me some hope at least.

Also im not sure what Lance Henriksen's idea of huge is

[Big G13]

Dwailing wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

When did Waldstr18 change his account name?

classIC! 

[steve3194]

I hope by summer they mean May or june.

People might start to loose interest if it drags out too long

[Tirian Thorn]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 

Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story. 

 Is it perfect?  No

Does it explain everything?  No

Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No

So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 05 avril 2012 - 03:48 .

[balance5050]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Ravel1992 wrote...

I see it is really easy to break your hope.

Wait for PAX people.

Hold the line.

its just another test.

Rergardless of what happens tomorrow, it was an honor serving with you my friends. This news definitly caused me to wince, but nothing is final until tomorrow.

[lex0r11]

steve3194 wrote...

I hope by summer they mean May or june.

People might start to loose interest if it drags out too long

I will gladly wait for a new end gameplay.

Modifié par lex0r11, 05 avril 2012 - 03:46 .

[darkiddd]

nyrocron wrote...

They keep ignoring direct questions via twitter...

/edit: Hmmm "additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes"

why seperate the two if the epilogue scenes do not contain gameplay?

I like you :happy:

[cyborg2501]

Bioware/EA are masters at stringing us along and giving us only the info we need to keep coming back for more. We hate it, but we love it

[Tirian Thorn]

Rifneno wrote...

Okay, this sucks. But I think you guys are overreacting. This is a very bad sign, but it's not IT's tombstone. I want to focus on two points here.

1. PR speak isn't gamer speak. The people who write press releases and such aren't the same people who devoted half their lives to gaming. They think things like "cinematic sequences" are bullet points to sell a product. They likely don't understand that we're chomping at the bit for more gameplay and may think that's just implied.

2. The delay doesn't mean it wasn't planned. Games run on deadlines like anything else. ME3 was already delayed for quite a while before it hit the shelves. 6 months at least, I think? They may have prioritized. Release the game up until the indoctrination ending and then finish the post-indoctrination content afterwards. It makes sense in that it buys them some precious extra months to really finish the game. They just didn't expect the immense backlash. How could they? No one did. I've never heard of any game or even movie with an ending that so enraged its fanbase that major news networks covered it. That's unheardof.

I advise my faithful line-holding comrades in arms keyboards not to let this crush all hope. Step back and take a minute to consider the reasons this may not be what it seems at first glance. More importantly, take a look back at all the evidence that made you an IT believer in the first place. So much of it couldn't have been an accident, and so much of it would have been easy to remove if IT was scrapped. Weigh the possibility that all that was random chance versus the possibility that the press release was misleading/poorly worded/ect.

I haven't done the "holding the line" catchphrase yet, but I think this time I'll use it for emphasis. Harbinger himself will have to burn my lifeless corpse off the line.

Excellent!  Let's not jump to conclusions and blow a fuse. 

[nyrocron]

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Modifié par nyrocron, 05 avril 2012 - 03:48 .

[DreamTension]

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Here's BioWare's response below.  I'm absolutely floored by all of this. 


Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn’t:
What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?

• For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer
  extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to
  the conclusion of Commander Shepard’s journey.

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

• No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
  end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
  expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

• BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating
  additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending
  sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity
  and closure to Mass Effect 3.

When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?

• Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?

• Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we  made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would  like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to
  provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.

 
[*]So there you have it.
[*]Are we proud of the game we made and the team
that made it? Hell yes.
[*]Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

Modifié par DreamTension, 05 avril 2012 - 03:50 .

[MassEffectFan11]

I personally think you're all overreacting if you think that this announcement is killing Indoc Theory. I mean, come on. They never denied it, and I'm pretty sure they never said it was all cinematic, they said it's going to include new scenes. Scenes can just as easily mean gameplay scenes as cinematic stuff. Plus, they still have the announcement to make tomorrow, and if it's as huge as they say, I'm sure it's more than just Retake Omega DLC or something like that. Have a little faith in Bioware, people! You're all acting like this ball-drop with the endings means they're horrible, horrible people and we should completely ignore the fact that in addition to the endings, they also gave us upwards of 200 hours of amazing gameplay with the Mass Effect games! I have faith in them, and you all should too. Either you have faith in them, and they'll continue listening to us and tomorrow can be amazing, or you don't, and we've already lost.

[CaliGuy033]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 
Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story.
 Is it perfect?  No
Does it explain everything?  No
Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No
So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

It doesn't suck at all.  It's actually quite clever and, frankly, a really cool idea.

But that's all it is.  Fan fiction.  The "proof" and "evidence" that it was intended by BW was about as strong as the proof that OJ didn't kill anyone. 

[Dwailing]

Big G13 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

When did Waldstr18 change his account name?

classIC! 

Thanks, I couldn't resist. 

[nyrocron]

The blog post says pretty much nothing.

Modifié par nyrocron, 05 avril 2012 - 03:50 .

[Dwailing]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 
Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story.
 Is it perfect?  No
Does it explain everything?  No
Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No
So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

It doesn't suck at all.  It's actually quite clever and, frankly, a really cool idea.

But that's all it is.  Fan fiction.  The "proof" and "evidence" that it was intended by BW was about as strong as the proof that OJ didn't kill anyone. 

Oh, you did NOT just go there.

Edit: You know, with the OJ thing.

Modifié par Dwailing, 05 avril 2012 - 03:51 .

[llbountyhunter]

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

I personally think you're all overreacting if you think that this announcement is killing Indoc Theory. I mean, come on. They never denied it, and I'm pretty sure they never said it was all cinematic, they said it's going to include new scenes. Scenes can just as easily mean gameplay scenes as cinematic stuff. Plus, they still have the announcement to make tomorrow, and if it's as huge as they say, I'm sure it's more than just Retake Omega DLC or something like that. Have a little faith in Bioware, people! You're all acting like this ball-drop with the endings means they're horrible, horrible people and we should completely ignore the fact that in addition to the endings, they also gave us upwards of 200 hours of amazing gameplay with the Mass Effect games! I have faith in them, and you all should too. Either you have faith in them, and they'll continue listening to us and tomorrow can be amazing, or you don't, and we've already lost.

i think this announcement was designed to sepereate the true mass effect fans from the indocternated liars.

[llbountyhunter]

Dwailing wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 
Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story.
 Is it perfect?  No
Does it explain everything?  No
Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No
So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

It doesn't suck at all.  It's actually quite clever and, frankly, a really cool idea.

But that's all it is.  Fan fiction.  The "proof" and "evidence" that it was intended by BW was about as strong as the proof that OJ didn't kill anyone. 

Oh, you did NOT just go there.

OJ killed someone?  

lol, jk.

[LeRavelle]

Good luck keeping that artistic vision without any fans.

[Golferguy758]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Haha I did have a nice tinfoil hat comment about the release,of the statement and how it ties to indoctrination of the player. It would also explain why this was released today and not later.

This is so tinfoil hat and only the hardcore will believe, I personally think it's over, but I can give a conspiracy theory for you.

This last announcement is OUR test. Just like shep was given those choices after a traumatic moment we are standing at our choice. Do we give up on our beliefs, or do we struggle through and keep to our beliefs until the very end.

lance said there was something big. We have hope. More than we know.

So here's a bit of hope for those who still believe in bioware.

Golferguy758 out

[CaliGuy033]

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial