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[Dwailing]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

Haha I did have a nice tinfoil hat comment about the release,of the statement and how it ties to indoctrination of the player. It would also explain why this was released today and not later.

This is so tinfoil hat and only the hardcore will believe, I personally think it's over, but I can give a conspiracy theory for you.

This last announcement is OUR test. Just like shep was given those choices after a traumatic moment we are standing at our choice. Do we give up on our beliefs, or do we struggle through and keep to our beliefs until the very end.

lance said there was something big. We have hope. More than we know.

So here's a bit of hope for those who still believe in bioware.

Golferguy758 out

Bumping yourself? Nice. 

[Tirian Thorn]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos. Is that what you meant?
Cause I disagree. IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story.
Is it perfect? No
Does it explain everything? No
Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true? No
So disagree with this theory if you want. I’m fine with that. But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks.

It doesn't suck at all. It's actually quite clever and, frankly, a really cool idea.

But that's all it is. Fan fiction. The "proof" and "evidence" that it was intended by BW was about as strong as the proof that OJ didn't kill anyone.

Are you saying that Bioware murdered Commander Shepard and covered it up!?

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 05 avril 2012 - 03:54 .

[Capeo]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 

Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story. 

 Is it perfect?  No

Does it explain everything?  No

Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No

So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

This idea sucks.

I'd hate it more than the endings we have now.

[CheesieOnion]

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

[n00bsauce2010]

Dwailing wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 
Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story.
 Is it perfect?  No
Does it explain everything?  No
Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No
So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

It doesn't suck at all.  It's actually quite clever and, frankly, a really cool idea.

But that's all it is.  Fan fiction.  The "proof" and "evidence" that it was intended by BW was about as strong as the proof that OJ didn't kill anyone. 

Oh, you did NOT just go there.

Edit: You know, with the OJ thing.

lol.. we all know OJ killed his wife. Anyone who disagrees with that is indoctrinated.

[llbountyhunter]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

"this odviously disproves IT" ---- someones a ****g troll.

[Quilate]

*facepalm*

[MassEffectFan11]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

[n00bsauce2010]

llbountyhunter wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

"this odviously disproves IT" ---- someones a ****g troll.

Don't acknowledge the troll.. remember.. hold the line.

[I Soya I]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

This is sort of what IT theorists have been expecting. Expansion. So yeah, it doesn't disprove anything, it's just another announcement that does not adress it at all.

[DreamTension]

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

+1

[Kyzee]

 Another thing to consider about the announcment is the way Bioware (and yes, I'm thinking of Jessica Merizan in particular) has interacted with the fans over IT. They haven't actually discouraged it; in fact, they've seemed honestly impressed by fans' speculation. To do this, to fan the flames of the theory, and then to have the DLC keep the endings as they stand, would be one of the stupidest PR moves EVER.

I'm not saying that they have to make IT true. Some other explanation could be provided. But to simply be, "Star Child's logic makes sense; here's how your teammates got onto the Normandy; here's why Joker was going through a Mass Relay; etc, etc." would be unbelievably dumb given the way they've responded.

[Tirian Thorn]

Capeo wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

This announcement isn't what killed IT; IT was dead from the moment it was imagined by a bunch of overly emotional fans.

But this announcement does make the continued "support" of IT even more ridiculous. So, that's good, I guess.

Yeah it was dreamt up by a bunch of crack pots that have nothing better to do than sit in their parent’s basement while eating Cheetos.  Is that what you meant? 

Cause I disagree.  IT is a well-reasoned explanation to a number of glaring plot holes and poor story. 

 Is it perfect?  No

Does it explain everything?  No

Should everyone just shut up and agree that IT is true?  No

So disagree with this theory if you want.  I’m fine with that.  But you aren’t going to tell me this idea sucks. 

This idea sucks.

I'd hate it more than the endings we have now.

TROLL IN THE DUNGEON!  LOL

[TheVolusSuck]

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.


This kinda seals the fate of indoctrination theory in my mind... Bioware gave us a conclusive answer that the endings will not be changed....

Troops in Philadelphia are being over run! 90% KIA and our remaining forces are scattered. We cant hold the line much longer! Tell me wife I love...*Gunshots* /transmission

[Phoenix92254]

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

This. The extended cut easily could just be three (or more) extended cut scenes after Shepard wakes from Indoctrination and they all could be based on the choice you made in the Crucible. The IT was never going to change the ending just give another a new understanding context.

[CaliGuy033]

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

Hence, "somebody in denial."  

[TheVolusSuck]

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

In my book, saying the ending wont be changed means that the star child is real.  Otherwise... the ending would be changed...

[CaliGuy033]

Phoenix92254 wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

This. The extended cut easily could just be three (or more) extended cut scenes after Shepard wakes from Indoctrination and they all could be based on the choice you made in the Crucible. The IT was never going to change the ending just give another a new understanding context.

So let me get this straight.  You think there is going to be an extended cutscene in which Shepard wakes up after picking Destroy (thus resisting "indoctrination"), and then that cutscene is going to show him defeating the Reapers (who are still there) without any additional gameplay?  Or he's not going to defeat the Reapers at all?

[Golferguy758]

@dwailing

Hate my phone at times like this. Was trying to expand the thought I bumped, but I lost the text for it.

We'll see what happens tomorrow

[llbountyhunter]

TheVolusSuck wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

In my book, saying the ending wont be changed means that the star child is real.  Otherwise... the ending would be changed...

and the star child was real.... in shepards mind. duh.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 05 avril 2012 - 04:01 .

[MassEffectFan11]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

Hence, "somebody in denial."  

Not in denial, you just obviously don't understand the IT. Go ahead and lose faith if you want. As for me? Well, I won't let fear compromise who I am.

[balance5050]

THE BARRIER IS BROKEN PEOPLE! TROLLS ARE FLOODING THE MAIN GATES! BRACE YOURSELVES LEST YE BECOME INDOCTRINATED.

This is our final push I.T. believers, tomorrow, we either see glory or defeat!

[Shooter__Andy]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

So let me get this straight.  You think there is going to be an extended cutscene in which Shepard wakes up after picking Destroy (thus resisting "indoctrination"), and then that cutscene is going to show him defeating the Reapers (who are still there) without any additional gameplay?  Or he's not going to defeat the Reapers at all?

Well, SHEPARD isn't going to defeat Reapers anyway. It's not like he's some Reaper-destroying machine. He has fleets and armies for that and, guess what, their fighting will most likely be shown only in cutscenes and cinematics.

And, as was said before, additional gameplay scenes still are possible.

[MassEffectFan11]

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Phoenix92254 wrote...

MassEffectFan11 wrote...

CaliGuy033 wrote...

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the
end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will
expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

"Obviously this doesn't disprove IT." -- somebody in denial

You do, of course, realize that IT never changed the endings, it just made them make sense. All IT is, is expanding on the current endings. This annoucement doesn't disprove it at all.

This. The extended cut easily could just be three (or more) extended cut scenes after Shepard wakes from Indoctrination and they all could be based on the choice you made in the Crucible. The IT was never going to change the ending just give another a new understanding context.

So let me get this straight.  You think there is going to be an extended cutscene in which Shepard wakes up after picking Destroy (thus resisting "indoctrination"), and then that cutscene is going to show him defeating the Reapers (who are still there) without any additional gameplay?  Or he's not going to defeat the Reapers at all?

Ah. I see. You're under the impression that there's going to be no additional gameplay. I guess you didn't notice the fact that they never said that. Saying it's going to include new cinematic stuff isn't saying there will be no more gameplay. They said cinematics and epilogue stuff. Which could easily be more gameplay. Otherwise, why seperate the two?

[RiGoRmOrTiS_UK]

Hate to say I told you so (after you all jumped on me for voicing my doubt over IT) but.. I told you so.

Bioware don't do sutble, clever foreshadowing. Basic structured stories with agressive twists are what they use to do so I knew IT was beyond their abilities and now we have confirmation.

Nothing can totally explain away their current ending, we know it, they know it. Clarification will be insufficient and wafer thin and will never address the pre-launch lies from Casey and Mac.