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[Ravel1992]

 

nyrocron wrote...

Errm http://twitter.com/#...946105097564160

This one is really interesting.



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deviever wrote...

 

[Fattness132]

Regardless of what bioware actually does, I'm sticking to IT as my headcanon. It makes enough sense to me and i'm happy with it.

[IronSabbath88]

Hmm, so look here, all the IT haters are back.

You know what would be great? I mean just GREAT?

Right now, they're all running us through the dirt. But what if this all turns out to be fact and in the summer we're proven right? Oh boy will that be a glorious day of revenge.

Maybe you all should've kept quiet.

[captainbob8383]

https://twitter.com/...955957643481088

MrBlazenGlazen ‏ 
@JessicaMerizan
0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive. 

Jessica Merizan
@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

Modifié par captainbob8383, 05 avril 2012 - 05:50 .

[Trollgunner]

Pff....like my bad-ass Shepard care.
Cinematic scene:
True Reaper ruler: Sorry Shepard, but this is the- *renegade button appear*
Me: Oh I waited for this moment! *click*
Shepard expands his omni-tool into blade and make an awesome finishing move, and then whispers to "it" : Like hell it end like that! *bad-ass face*

[Piplodocus]

I Soya I wrote...

Please show me the part where it says no more gameplay?.... So what I am saying is please refrain from saying that the statement says IT isn't true, because that statement itself is not true.

Three things:

1) It is correct that the statement does not say there will not be extra gameplay. Howvere, it does say that there will be "cinematics and epilogues", and I think it's a pretty reasonable to assume that if there was extra gameplay (the most important part of a game, the thing without which it isn't really a "game") they would have mentiond it. It also doesn't say there isn't going to be a new squad member in the dlc, but I think that's pretty unlikely. It doesn't say it won't have lots of things, that does not mean we can reasonably expect them to be included.

2) Please refrain from misquoting me. I was very careful and deliberate about NOT saying the statement proved IT was not true. If you read my post more carefully, you will see I used the following phrases: "
very strongly implies",  "almost certainly", "
that seems very unlikely to me ", and "
I think it's exceptionally unlikely that anything recognisable as IT will be implemented" - All phrases constructed very specifically to avoid saying unquivocally that IT was not true.

3) I know you're not being hostile  - you're upset and disappointed. Just you me and much of the rest of the galaxy...

[Pathero]

My biggest concern is the:
Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

Part of the FAQ.

Now whilst it doesn't explicitly say that Idoctrination Theory is false in that, the fact that it says there will be no new ending DLC after this implies that WYSIWYG.

On the other hand (pass me a straw) they don't say that there will be no post-ending DLC so some small hope. We'll see though.

[n00bsauce2010]

Capeo wrote...


IDT does NOT nullify the ending.  That happened.  IDT completely agrees that the ending happens.  How do we make this clearer?  IDT would require addtional explanation to the ending (clarification and closure) and can be done by cinematics only.


YES IT DOES!.  For IT to be true you would HAVE TO pick destroy.  What don't you get about that?  That makes the other two endings false.  BW has clearly stated in the FAQ that all three endings are valid.  They are not changing the end.

And cinematics only?  Is that a joke?  What?  A cinematic of Shep waking up and shooting Harbinger in the eye: THE END?  

Holy ****! an ANTI-IT who seems to know more about the IT than people who actually support the IT. Cool beans.

Of course that's a joke. Also where have you been the past 400 or so pages? We've stated many times that IT works with all ending dipsh*t mcgee.

Modifié par n00bsauce2010, 05 avril 2012 - 05:52 .

[nyrocron]

Capeo wrote...

I Soya I wrote...

Piplodocus wrote...

I Soya I wrote...

It looks to me like you just took 2 quotes that in no way relate to the IT except to say there will be DLC and this will be the only one. So connect the dots for me because I clearly am missing how this makes IT not true.

Let me preface this by saying that I wanted IT to be Bioware's true intention as much as anybody, and more than most of them.

However, the reality is that this news very strongly implies that it is not what Bioware intended, and almost certainly will not happen. If IT was true, then Shep would have to get up and conclude the fight with Harbinger. But this statement says there will be "cinematics and epilogues", i.e. no more gameplay. Now in theory I suppose they could have the Shep get up and somehow win the war as part of one long cinematic, but that seems very unlikely to me; I think those of us who were putting their faith in IT assumed that if true there would be playable content after the "breath scene". Since this statement tells us there is no more playable content I think it's exceptionally unlikely that anything recognisable as IT will be implemented now, in the summer, or ever.

Please show me the part where it says no more gameplay? Becasue there is in fact none.  Whatever tone the article sets can easily be disregarded for the actual context.   I will wait and see until content is released or is talked about more. Hell, maybe I will only have to wait until tomorrow. So what I am saying is please refrain from saying that the statement says IT isn't true, because that statement itself is not true.

EDIT: I'm not trying to sound hostile even though I realize it might seem like that. Just trying to prove a point.

People you do realize there's an FAQ on the blog right?  Not just the press release?  I quote:

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.
[/list]
What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.[/list]
Cinematics means unplayable cutscenes.  It has a very defined meaning.  There will be no gameplay.

cinematics + epilogue. while epilogue is not usually playable it still could be.

[I Soya I]

captainbob8383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...955957643481088

MrBlazenGlazen ‏ 
@JessicaMerizan
0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive. 

Jessica Merizan
@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

This is actually VERY telling!

EDIT: At piplodoctus... I probobly butchered that. Anyway, I was illuding the person I had originally quoted when I said "IT is not true." I actually liked your post 

Modifié par I Soya I, 05 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[captainbob8383]

https://twitter.com/...56540655935488' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'> https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan/status/187956540655935488

"Please Jessica could you at least confirm that Indoc theory is false if that's the case? It's cruel to let us hope in vain". ‏

@JessicaMerizan
as a fan, I like the indoctrination theory and it's definitely how I perceive at least one of my playthroughs.

Modifié par captainbob8383, 05 avril 2012 - 05:55 .

[Shooter__Andy]

Again, "additional cinematica AND epilogue scenes" might as well mean that they're distinguishing between CINEMATICS and NON-CINEMATIC SCENES.

[Cucobr]

CLB17 wrote...

@Cucobr

So tell me what did the IT theory say was going to happen after Shepard woke up.

IT is about explain everything about the ending. To make sense and logic.

correct?

OK.

At the ending of the game, Shepard wake up and the game is over correct?


BioWare says that Mass Effect 3 is the last game of Shepard. There isn't a Mass Effect 4 beginning with Shepard wake up.

The Reapers still there... the Citadel still there... the crucible still there.


is it a ending for you?

No


The DLC will give to us the continuation from where the IT stopped.


Not anymore.



What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.



Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story.



so... it's over.

Mass Effect 3 was the last game that I bought from BioWare.
Never more.

[Tirian Thorn]

byne wrote...

Indoctrination has always been about explaining the current endings as they are, and why certain things are the way they are.

It has never been about changing the endings or getting new ones.

Bioware saying they arent going to make new endings, but are simply expanding on the current ones neither confirms nor denies IT.

>Anti-IT people accuse us of twisting every little thing Bioware says to support IT
>Bioware releases a statement that doesnt really have any relevance to IT
>Anti-IT people twist it into a 100% official denial of IT

Sure is hypocritical in here.

+1

[DreamTension]

EDIT:
You know what.  Not necessary to continue this conversation because it's obvious attempt.


Moving on:

Hmm.  Jessica is either a savior or masochist....

Modifié par DreamTension, 05 avril 2012 - 05:58 .

[Vigil_N7]

The sooner the endings get released, the sooner your delusions will come to an end.

The sooner, the better. Each time I see someone still clinging onto this idiotic theory my sanity dwindles ten fold.

[Vigil_N7]

As of right now, high EMS and picking destroy is the only way to get "Shepard Breath" so right now, there is only one ending that gives you this scene.  Call it what you will (perfect ending/happy ending/twist ending), but BioWare did this on PURPOSE. 
It never said anything about these endingS being fact.  You are making all of this up as you go.

And the citadel remains intact in control, but gets destroyed in synthesise, if both resulted in indoctrination then why the hell would the citadel be destroyed in one of the endings? 

Oh yeah, because the theory isn't right. 

[Pathero]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

The sooner the endings get released, the sooner your delusions will come to an end.

The sooner, the better. Each time I see someone still clinging onto this idiotic theory my sanity dwindles ten fold.

Well, at least we have some more proof that there are lots of IT believers.

[Piplodocus]

I Soya I wrote...

EDIT: At piplodoctus... I probobly butchered that. Anyway, I was illuding the person I had originally quoted when I said "IT is not true." I actually liked your post 

No worries dude! Happy Easter etc. 

[n00bsauce2010]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

As of right now, high EMS and picking destroy is the only way to get "Shepard Breath" so right now, there is only one ending that gives you this scene.  Call it what you will (perfect ending/happy ending/twist ending), but BioWare did this on PURPOSE. 
It never said anything about these endingS being fact.  You are making all of this up as you go.

And the citadel remains intact in control, but gets destroyed in synthesise, if both resulted in indoctrination then why the hell would the citadel be destroyed in one of the endings? 

Oh yeah, because the theory isn't right. 

You seem to forget that the Citadel is just another mass relay, and the child clearly states no matter what we choose the mass relays will be destroyed.. so Bioware.. please feel free to fill in that plot hole.

[Pathero]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

As of right now, high EMS and picking destroy is the only way to get "Shepard Breath" so right now, there is only one ending that gives you this scene.  Call it what you will (perfect ending/happy ending/twist ending), but BioWare did this on PURPOSE. 
It never said anything about these endingS being fact.  You are making all of this up as you go.

And the citadel remains intact in control, but gets destroyed in synthesise, if both resulted in indoctrination then why the hell would the citadel be destroyed in one of the endings? 

Oh yeah, because the theory isn't right. 

Because the endings aren't taking place in the real word rather in Shep's head?

[JustAidan]

CLB17 wrote...

@Cucobr

So tell me what did the IT theory say was going to happen after Shepard woke up.

IT has no idea. The indoctrination idea is built from evidence that can be found within the game itself so no clue what would happen after.

If IT is true, then the Reapers aren't defeated yet.

So....."Lots of Speculation":P

[Tirian Thorn]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

The sooner the endings get released, the sooner your delusions will come to an end.

The sooner, the better. Each time I see someone still clinging onto this idiotic theory my sanity dwindles ten fold.

Then leave.  Don't look at the posts, just go. 

But you can't do that can you?  You want to troll around and make snide remarks.  If it's really affecting your sanity - just ignore it and go away. 

[DreamTension]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

The sooner the endings get released, the sooner your delusions will come to an end.

The sooner, the better. Each time I see someone still clinging onto this idiotic theory my sanity dwindles ten fold.

Then why on Earth are you on this thread? 

[balance5050]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

As of right now, high EMS and picking destroy is the only way to get "Shepard Breath" so right now, there is only one ending that gives you this scene.  Call it what you will (perfect ending/happy ending/twist ending), but BioWare did this on PURPOSE. 
It never said anything about these endingS being fact.  You are making all of this up as you go.

And the citadel remains intact in control, but gets destroyed in synthesise, if both resulted in indoctrination then why the hell would the citadel be destroyed in one of the endings? 

Oh yeah, because the theory isn't right. 

And the endings at face value seem "right" to you? so you're ok that it breaks the laws of physics and completly goes against the lore established in the rest of the game?

Sorry buddy, but I.T. will live forever...

Modifié par balance5050, 05 avril 2012 - 06:00 .