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McGrzegorz wrote...
captainbob8383 wrote...
https://twitter.com/...956540655935488
"Please Jessica could you at least confirm that Indoc theory is false if that's the case? It's cruel to let us hope in vain".
@JessicaMerizan
as a fan, I like the indoctrination theory and it's definitely how I perceive at least one of my playthroughs.
Seriously ?!?!
No one can just say flat out:
YES or NO
Modifié par Ravel1992, 05 avril 2012 - 06:20 .
Capeo wrote...
I already knew that dumb crap. Thanks for making my point. To beat indoctrination in It you HAVE TO CHOOSE DESTROY! That's idiotic. They are not going to retcon the choices so only one allows you to actually win. How is this hard to understand. It turns two choices that currently are victories into failures and leaves everyone with one choice to make. How you see that as a good idea is beyond me.
The FAQ clearly states they are NOT changing the endings. They are ALL still victories. They are not retconning anything.
Fattness132 wrote...
Setzer Daven wrote...
I don't recommend any of my fellow IT supporters visiting other threads on these forums. It's getting really rough out there. It breaks my heart seeing so many enraged people.
I think people have the right to be enraged right now. We were blatently lied to about being listened to. Its rather insulting and I'm pretty damn pissed off at the moment. It is clear they had no intention of listening to our complaints, and would rather spout an "artistic integrity" BS excuse than actually listen to our feedback.
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Hey guys. Someone just sent me a message.
Hi! I have seen you being active in the IT thread. Can you please post a message for me? Or maybe create a new thread? (I have to wait 24 hours)
Today is "Tell a Lie Day". I assume this whole Extended Cut is just that! A lie! Please post this in the thread and everywhere where you can (thats why I suggest opening a new thread). This could just be another "test" from Bioware from us! Don´t lose hope and hold the line
Regards
Chief
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Hey guys. Someone just sent me a message.
Hi! I have seen you being active in the IT thread. Can you please post a message for me? Or maybe create a new thread? (I have to wait 24 hours)
Today is "Tell a Lie Day". I assume this whole Extended Cut is just that! A lie! Please post this in the thread and everywhere where you can (thats why I suggest opening a new thread). This could just be another "test" from Bioware from us! Don´t lose hope and hold the line
Regards
Chief
I find your lack of faith disturbingCapeo wrote...
protognosis wrote...
Capeo wrote...
DreamTension wrote...
Capeo wrote...
I Soya I wrote...
It looks to me like you just took 2 quotes that in no way relate to the IT except to say there will be DLC and this will be the only one. So connect the dots for me because I clearly am missing how this makes IT not true.Capeo wrote...
Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?CLB17 wrote...
I'll ask a 3rd time. Where in the article does it say the indoctrination theory I not true?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.
[/list]What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.[/list]
IT is not true.
Are you kidding? They are standing by the current endings and adding cutscenes. IT nullifies two endings. They ARE NOT doing that. How is this hard to understand? Why do even think they put those questions in the FAQ? It clearly says they are clarifying the EXISTING ENDING SEQUENCES. Sequence means cutscenes.
IDT does NOT nullify the ending. That happened. IDT completely agrees that the ending happens. How do we make this clearer? IDT would require addtional explanation to the ending (clarification and closure) and can be done by cinematics only.
YES IT DOES!. For IT to be true you would HAVE TO pick destroy. What don't you get about that? That makes the other two endings false. BW has clearly stated in the FAQ that all three endings are valid. They are not changing the end.
And cinematics only? Is that a joke? What? A cinematic of Shep waking up and shooting Harbinger in the eye: THE END?
Your inability to understand IT is amusing. All endings mean IT.
Let me explain. Control means you failed to resist. Considering its the only option you get if you saved the collector's base and have low EMS means the reapers own you.
Synthesis only occurs with high EMS. That means the reapers are scared s***less and IT of Shepard is failing and they are using their contingency plan. Everything and everyone is synthetic/living hybrid.
Destruction is best when you have high EMS. Shepard wakes up. IT is beaten.
Now that I've explained IT to you, since you can't be bothered to read the OP, can you explain how clarification and explanation ruin IT?
I already knew that dumb crap. Thanks for making my point. To beat indoctrination in It you HAVE TO CHOOSE DESTROY! That's idiotic. They are not going to retcon the choices so only one allows you to actually win. How is this hard to understand. It turns two choices that currently are victories into failures and leaves everyone with one choice to make. How you see that as a good idea is beyond me.
The FAQ clearly states they are NOT changing the endings. They are ALL still victories. They are not retconning anything.
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Hey guys. Someone just sent me a message.
Hi! I have seen you being active in the IT thread. Can you please post a message for me? Or maybe create a new thread? (I have to wait 24 hours)
Today is "Tell a Lie Day". I assume this whole Extended Cut is just that! A lie! Please post this in the thread and everywhere where you can (thats why I suggest opening a new thread). This could just be another "test" from Bioware from us! Don´t lose hope and hold the line
Regards
Chief
gonna bump it before it gets lost.
MintyCool wrote...
I'm suprised everyone is so upset? We won! We are receiveing free dlc now!
Send a Thank You to Bioware and EA here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11037569
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Hey guys. Someone just sent me a message.
Hi! I have seen you being active in the IT thread. Can you please post a message for me? Or maybe create a new thread? (I have to wait 24 hours)
Today is "Tell a Lie Day". I assume this whole Extended Cut is just that! A lie! Please post this in the thread and everywhere where you can (thats why I suggest opening a new thread). This could just be another "test" from Bioware from us! Don´t lose hope and hold the line
Regards
Chief
gonna bump it before it gets lost.
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Hey guys. Someone just sent me a message.
Hi! I have seen you being active in the IT thread. Can you please post a message for me? Or maybe create a new thread? (I have to wait 24 hours)
Today is "Tell a Lie Day". I assume this whole Extended Cut is just that! A lie! Please post this in the thread and everywhere where you can (thats why I suggest opening a new thread). This could just be another "test" from Bioware from us! Don´t lose hope and hold the line
Regards
Chief
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Logistics00 wrote...
bigstig wrote...
It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith in Bioware.
This epilogue content they have announced better have a lot of answers to the many many many legitimate questions that "passionate" fans have asked otherwise they may face another revolt which I suspect would be bigger than the last one.
The ball is in your court Bioware. Don't let us down.
Also and this is directed at EA. Think twice before shouting from the rafters about MP DLC. The MP DLC is fun but when a game was created and made on the back of a single player story MP will always feel shoehorned in. While the level of displeasure at the endings, adding more MP and making it a hugh announcement would leave a really bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth.
I keep running into this and can't believe people aren't making the connection. 'It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith...."
Now...think about what today's date is. Maundy Thursday. Think about what happened on that date. Then start thinking about how many allusions the game has to Christian imagery and I think you'll make the connection.
I'm confused sir. Enlighten us on the connection.
JTP117 wrote...
I find your lack of faith disturbingCapeo wrote...
protognosis wrote...
Capeo wrote...
DreamTension wrote...
Capeo wrote...
I Soya I wrote...
It looks to me like you just took 2 quotes that in no way relate to the IT except to say there will be DLC and this will be the only one. So connect the dots for me because I clearly am missing how this makes IT not true.Capeo wrote...
Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?CLB17 wrote...
I'll ask a 3rd time. Where in the article does it say the indoctrination theory I not true?
No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.
[/list]What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?
BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.[/list]
IT is not true.
Are you kidding? They are standing by the current endings and adding cutscenes. IT nullifies two endings. They ARE NOT doing that. How is this hard to understand? Why do even think they put those questions in the FAQ? It clearly says they are clarifying the EXISTING ENDING SEQUENCES. Sequence means cutscenes.
IDT does NOT nullify the ending. That happened. IDT completely agrees that the ending happens. How do we make this clearer? IDT would require addtional explanation to the ending (clarification and closure) and can be done by cinematics only.
YES IT DOES!. For IT to be true you would HAVE TO pick destroy. What don't you get about that? That makes the other two endings false. BW has clearly stated in the FAQ that all three endings are valid. They are not changing the end.
And cinematics only? Is that a joke? What? A cinematic of Shep waking up and shooting Harbinger in the eye: THE END?
Your inability to understand IT is amusing. All endings mean IT.
Let me explain. Control means you failed to resist. Considering its the only option you get if you saved the collector's base and have low EMS means the reapers own you.
Synthesis only occurs with high EMS. That means the reapers are scared s***less and IT of Shepard is failing and they are using their contingency plan. Everything and everyone is synthetic/living hybrid.
Destruction is best when you have high EMS. Shepard wakes up. IT is beaten.
Now that I've explained IT to you, since you can't be bothered to read the OP, can you explain how clarification and explanation ruin IT?
I already knew that dumb crap. Thanks for making my point. To beat indoctrination in It you HAVE TO CHOOSE DESTROY! That's idiotic. They are not going to retcon the choices so only one allows you to actually win. How is this hard to understand. It turns two choices that currently are victories into failures and leaves everyone with one choice to make. How you see that as a good idea is beyond me.
The FAQ clearly states they are NOT changing the endings. They are ALL still victories. They are not retconning anything.
Modifié par Dwailing, 05 avril 2012 - 06:27 .
Dwailing wrote...
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Hey guys. Someone just sent me a message.
Hi! I have seen you being active in the IT thread. Can you please post a message for me? Or maybe create a new thread? (I have to wait 24 hours)
Today is "Tell a Lie Day". I assume this whole Extended Cut is just that! A lie! Please post this in the thread and everywhere where you can (thats why I suggest opening a new thread). This could just be another "test" from Bioware from us! Don´t lose hope and hold the line
Regards
Chief
gonna bump it before it gets lost.
If this is true, then there might just BE a fanbase left to save.
Guest_ConVito_*
captainbob8383 wrote...
https://twitter.com/...955957643481088
MrBlazenGlazen
@JessicaMerizan
0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive.
Jessica Merizan
@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible
Logistics00 wrote...
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Logistics00 wrote...
bigstig wrote...
It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith in Bioware.
This epilogue content they have announced better have a lot of answers to the many many many legitimate questions that "passionate" fans have asked otherwise they may face another revolt which I suspect would be bigger than the last one.
The ball is in your court Bioware. Don't let us down.
Also and this is directed at EA. Think twice before shouting from the rafters about MP DLC. The MP DLC is fun but when a game was created and made on the back of a single player story MP will always feel shoehorned in. While the level of displeasure at the endings, adding more MP and making it a hugh announcement would leave a really bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth.
I keep running into this and can't believe people aren't making the connection. 'It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith...."
Now...think about what today's date is. Maundy Thursday. Think about what happened on that date. Then start thinking about how many allusions the game has to Christian imagery and I think you'll make the connection.
I'm confused sir. Enlighten us on the connection.
Matthew 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, "You will all become deserters because of me this night; for it is written,
'I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'
32 But after I am raised up, I will go ahead of you to Galilee."
33 Peter said to him, "Though all become deserters because of you, I will never desert you." 34 Jesus said to him, "Truly I tell you, this very night, before the **** crows, you will deny me three times." 35 Peter said to him, "Even though I must die with you, I will not deny you." And so said all the disciples.
The game is full to the brim with Christian allusions. What better trick to play on the more ardent fans of the series then to have us play the role of the disciples. I don't think it was mere happenstance that this is playing out during Holy Week and particularly near Easter. Bioware released this press snippet a day before a major gaming convention. Suddenly everyone starts Doubting their convictions even though the actual announcement is rather vague....
I'm willing to admit I may be overthinking things, but the sheer number of clues to the IT theory are just too pervasive for me to think otherwise. I think Bioware is manipulating it's fan base like a harp, and we're all dancing to the same tune as 12 disciples 2000 years ago. That's what Bioware means by 'Artistic Vision'. Social engineering on a grand scale and in the service of a story. Tomorrow will tell the story presumably - or perhaps Sunday, that being Easter of course. I suppose I'll have to eat my hat if I'm wrong.
Dwailing wrote...
Oh Jessica you beautiful, beautiful woman. You're STILL the only reason I have hope. Hold the Line, for Marauder Shields and Jessica Merizan.
Oh man....and now we're into the religion. I'm not trying to offend someone and I support ind. theory, but THIS.... I really don't want to accept this.Logistics00 wrote...
n00bsauce2010 wrote...
Logistics00 wrote...
bigstig wrote...
It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith in Bioware.
This epilogue content they have announced better have a lot of answers to the many many many legitimate questions that "passionate" fans have asked otherwise they may face another revolt which I suspect would be bigger than the last one.
The ball is in your court Bioware. Don't let us down.
Also and this is directed at EA. Think twice before shouting from the rafters about MP DLC. The MP DLC is fun but when a game was created and made on the back of a single player story MP will always feel shoehorned in. While the level of displeasure at the endings, adding more MP and making it a hugh announcement would leave a really bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth.
I keep running into this and can't believe people aren't making the connection. 'It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith...."
Now...think about what today's date is. Maundy Thursday. Think about what happened on that date. Then start thinking about how many allusions the game has to Christian imagery and I think you'll make the connection.
I'm confused sir. Enlighten us on the connection.
Matthew 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, "You will all become deserters because of me this night; for it is written,
'I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.'
32 But after I am raised up, I will go ahead of you to Galilee."
33 Peter said to him, "Though all become deserters because of you, I will never desert you." 34 Jesus said to him, "Truly I tell you, this very night, before the **** crows, you will deny me three times." 35 Peter said to him, "Even though I must die with you, I will not deny you." And so said all the disciples.
The game is full to the brim with Christian allusions. What better trick to play on the more ardent fans of the series then to have us play the role of the disciples. I don't think it was mere happenstance that this is playing out during Holy Week and particularly near Easter. Bioware released this press snippet a day before a major gaming convention. Suddenly everyone starts Doubting their convictions even though the actual announcement is rather vague....
I'm willing to admit I may be overthinking things, but the sheer number of clues to the IT theory are just too pervasive for me to think otherwise. I think Bioware is manipulating it's fan base like a harp, and we're all dancing to the same tune as 12 disciples 2000 years ago. That's what Bioware means by 'Artistic Vision'. Social engineering on a grand scale and in the service of a story. Tomorrow will tell the story presumably - or perhaps Sunday, that being Easter of course. I suppose I'll have to eat my hat if I'm wrong.
ConVito wrote...
captainbob8383 wrote...
https://twitter.com/...955957643481088
MrBlazenGlazen
@JessicaMerizan
0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive.
Jessica Merizan
@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible
Bumping. This needs to be seen.
ConVito wrote...
captainbob8383 wrote...
https://twitter.com/...955957643481088
MrBlazenGlazen
@JessicaMerizan
0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive.
Jessica Merizan
@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible
Bumping. This needs to be seen.
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