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#30526
Skillz1986

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You do realize that the discusiion with CRAPeo is just a vicious cycle of senseless repetition..he will never..ever accept your point of view...we wil never accept his..unless it is clearly..without any room for interpretation proven..so let' just end this stupid s**t.i'm sure somebody..somewhre disagrees with his take on inception...let him troll those people..simply stop responding...it' actually that easy

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lex0r11 wrote...

Guys, FIGHT ON!

Like T-Rex Shepard did before us!



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I heard that next game in ME universe will be prequel so...

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RADIUMEYEZ

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lex0r11 wrote...

Guys, FIGHT ON!

Like T-Rex Shepard did before us!



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THAT IS AWESOME!!!!! :D

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Capeo, I may be remembering your name from another thread, or confusing you with someone else, but didnt you used to be on board with IT? Or am I indeed confusing you with someone else?

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Rksmithers wrote...

Logistics00 wrote...

bigstig wrote...

It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith in Bioware.

This epilogue content they have announced better have a lot of answers to the many many many legitimate questions that "passionate" fans have asked otherwise they may face another revolt which I suspect would be bigger than the last one.

The ball is in your court Bioware. Don't let us down.

Also and this is directed at EA. Think twice before shouting from the rafters about MP DLC. The MP DLC is fun but when a game was created and made on the back of a single player story MP will always feel shoehorned in. While the level of displeasure at the endings, adding more MP and making it a hugh announcement would leave a really bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth.




I keep running into this and can't believe people aren't making the connection. 'It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith...."

Now...think about what today's date is. Maundy Thursday. Think about what happened on that date. Then start thinking about how many allusions the game has to Christian imagery and I think you'll make the connection.


Not to bash your religion or tell you you cant speculate on this, but lets try to keep religion out of the IT for the Time being.

*Nods* Let's not bring enything else into this theory it's already complicated ( read first page) so we shoul concentrate on news from PAX, and maybe set a new record : play ME3  all over again and leave b4 Cerberus base and wait for Bioware announcement at PAX :D

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Rksmithers wrote...

Logistics00 wrote...

bigstig wrote...

It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith in Bioware.

This epilogue content they have announced better have a lot of answers to the many many many legitimate questions that "passionate" fans have asked otherwise they may face another revolt which I suspect would be bigger than the last one.

The ball is in your court Bioware. Don't let us down.

Also and this is directed at EA. Think twice before shouting from the rafters about MP DLC. The MP DLC is fun but when a game was created and made on the back of a single player story MP will always feel shoehorned in. While the level of displeasure at the endings, adding more MP and making it a hugh announcement would leave a really bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth.




I keep running into this and can't believe people aren't making the connection. 'It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith...."

Now...think about what today's date is. Maundy Thursday. Think about what happened on that date. Then start thinking about how many allusions the game has to Christian imagery and I think you'll make the connection.


Not to bash your religion or tell you you cant speculate on this, but lets try to keep religion out of the IT for the Time being.


I'm going to have to disagree, there is religous allusions in the game so I think it's all applicable. Tomorrow is Good Friday afterall...

Agnostics UNITE!

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captainbob8383 wrote...

https://twitter.com/...955957643481088

MrBlazenGlazen ‏ 
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0_o. So...there is hope for that "golden ending" after all? I did my very best to try to have shepard and crew survive. 

Jessica Merizan
@MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible :)


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Now that she's said it it can't be taken back, right?!

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Capeo wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Capeo wrote...

byne wrote...

Capeo wrote...


I already knew that dumb crap.  Thanks for making my point.  To beat indoctrination in It you HAVE TO CHOOSE DESTROY!  That's idiotic.  They are not going to retcon the choices so only one allows you to actually win.  How is this hard to understand.  It turns two choices that currently are victories into failures and leaves everyone with one choice to make.  How you see that as a good idea is beyond me.

The FAQ clearly states they are NOT changing the endings.  They are ALL still victories.  They are not retconning anything.


Bioware said before the game came out that it was possible for the Reapers to win, though.

IT not only provides them with a way to make the current endings make sense, but also a way to make it seem like they didnt lie to us about the endings as much as it currently seems they did.


Please show me that quote.

And IT doesn't make anything make sense.  Indoctrination doesn't work that way.  On top of that there is no bigger cop out than the "it was all a dream" ending.


Here you go. 
http://www.nowgamer....in_bioware.html 


He was asked if they could win the Battle for Earth.  They can.  Pick Destoy with low EMS and the earth is destroyed.


The reapers are all still destroyed though. How exactly is that them winng?

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balance5050 wrote...


Agnostics UNITE!


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balance5050 wrote...

Rksmithers wrote...

Logistics00 wrote...

bigstig wrote...

It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith in Bioware.

This epilogue content they have announced better have a lot of answers to the many many many legitimate questions that "passionate" fans have asked otherwise they may face another revolt which I suspect would be bigger than the last one.

The ball is in your court Bioware. Don't let us down.

Also and this is directed at EA. Think twice before shouting from the rafters about MP DLC. The MP DLC is fun but when a game was created and made on the back of a single player story MP will always feel shoehorned in. While the level of displeasure at the endings, adding more MP and making it a hugh announcement would leave a really bad taste in a lot of peoples mouth.




I keep running into this and can't believe people aren't making the connection. 'It's becoming harder and harder to keep faith...."

Now...think about what today's date is. Maundy Thursday. Think about what happened on that date. Then start thinking about how many allusions the game has to Christian imagery and I think you'll make the connection.


Not to bash your religion or tell you you cant speculate on this, but lets try to keep religion out of the IT for the Time being.


I'm going to have to disagree, there is religous allusions in the game so I think it's all applicable. Tomorrow is Good Friday afterall...

Agnostics UNITE!


*Roll theme music*

Seriously though, lots of religous allusions in the game so maybe.....only maybe mind.....

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Just ignore Capeo.  Seriously.  They're a troll and a time waster. 

You can't win someone like that over or even get them to agree to disagree. 

People like that have their opinions and CANNOT handle anything outside those tightly held beliefs. 

That's it. 

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byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


Agnostics UNITE!


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The "Thiest" was that chap who stole fire right?

#30538
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MintyCool wrote...


I'm suprised everyone is so upset? We won! We are receiveing free dlc now!

Send a Thank You to Bioware and EA here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11037569


 Dont get to far ahead of yourself, we need to know the banshee is dead before we get up close for a better look. 

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byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


Agnostics UNITE!


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Thank you! You have no Idea how many people from my old HS thought they were so deep because they were agnostic, and had no idea what it meant!

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JustAidan wrote...


The "Thiest" was that chap who stole fire right?


The incorrect spelling of theist on that picture has always bugged me, but I've never bothered trying to fix it

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Just ignore Capeo.  Seriously.  They're a troll and a time waster. 

You can't win someone like that over or even get them to agree to disagree. 

People like that have their opinions and CANNOT handle anything outside those tightly held beliefs. 

That's it. 


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byne wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Guys, FIGHT ON!

Like T-Rex Shepard did before us!

*image snipped*


That is pretty clearly T-Rex Garrus, not T-Rex Shepard.


DAMNIT, i missed the visor.

Modifié par lex0r11, 05 avril 2012 - 06:49 .


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jessica is making me have hope again


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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Just ignore Capeo.  Seriously.  They're a troll and a time waster. 

You can't win someone like that over or even get them to agree to disagree. 

People like that have their opinions and CANNOT handle anything outside those tightly held beliefs. 

That's it. 


Sad but true

#30544
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I just find it funny how so many people refuse to even accept IT as a possibility, even when it answers every question they pose about the ending. Just look at all the threads out there right now.

"How will the clarification DLC handle the Shep Lives ending?"
Answer: IT

"Shep wouldn't have taken Starchild seriously. How do you 'clarify' that?"
Answer: IT

#30545
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JustAidan wrote...

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


Agnostics UNITE!


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The "Thiest" was that chap who stole fire right?


I think you are thinking of Prometheus. Stole fire and gave it to mortal man

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Just ignore Capeo.  Seriously.  They're a troll and a time waster. 

You can't win someone like that over or even get them to agree to disagree. 

People like that have their opinions and CANNOT handle anything outside those tightly held beliefs. 

That's it. 


^This!


 

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[quote]Logistics00 wrote...

I'm sure if I worked at it hard enough, I very well could. But we have been playing a Shepard this whole time, who went to Afterlife and Purgatory, and who seemingly Sacrifices himself during the final ending. Given all that, I don't think it's a bridge too far.[/quote

we have had a similar conversation on this thread before, there is christian sumbolism in the game. However Purgatory is not one of them. Purgatory although found in religion is  not found anywhere in the Bible, Torah or any other holy books(AFAIK) 

It is the invention of the catholic church.

That being said Sunday is Easter sunday, Shepard has been raised from the dead so perhaps...

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Rksmithers wrote...

 Dont get to far ahead of yourself, we need to know the banshee is dead before we get up close for a better look. 

Nah, I shot it good. Can't get deader than th*HRRRRRK!*

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byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...


Agnostics UNITE!


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K, I beleive all beings are splintered from the combined energy of the universe, in order for the universe to "experience itself". Is that a little better?

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*sigh*
New theory with religion. Like i said let's not make theories out of it, this is called "IT tread" not "Religion similarity tread"
mind your words guys :<
Oh and imagine if reapers would come in here " In grim darkness of future there's only wa- what? who? Rapers? The hell is that? Nevermind, tear it down to pieces with exterminatus, and any planet It touch."