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byne wrote...

But you'd think Bioware would stop her from saying things that are blatantly false.

I doubt they'd allow her to say reuniting with your crew is possible if it isnt.

Also, Capeo, you never answered me.

Didnt you used to be on board with IT? Or am I confusing you with someone else?


Agreed

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ecto69 wrote...

funny that this thread has been allowed to get to 1225 pages long, I thought they had a limit, or does that only apply to bugs and issues threads hmmm



This isnt even the longest thread in this forum.

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byne wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

I wouldn't call this nothing. the endings cannot..in any way..be what they are, if a reunion between shep and the team is possible. she said that..no pr talk..straight answer. she also said that shep can survive by choosing the red option with high enough ems, which also blows up the mass relays. but that would make it impossible for shepard to reunize with the team..since they seem to be in the idyllic ass of nowhere while he is on the..blown up..citadel.


She also straight up said she does interpet at least one of her playthroughs as IT, which, if she knows IT to be false, would be kind of odd.


She also interpretted it in other ways that she was much more clear on.  It is PR.  The problem is, we don't know if it's literal or just pacification.

Hopefully the panel will answer some things for us.

Modifié par ArkkAngel007, 05 avril 2012 - 07:33 .


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You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:

Modifié par Kyzee, 05 avril 2012 - 07:34 .


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ecto69 wrote...

funny that this thread has been allowed to get to 1225 pages long, I thought they had a limit, or does that only apply to bugs and issues threads hmmm


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Capeo wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

Can we please start to REALLY focus on jessica's tweets..because if they're not telling...i don't know what is


Jessica knows nothing of the content of the DLC or anything like that.  If you actually followed her twitter you'd know that.  Her job is to keep people happy.  She has said before she hoped they weren't going to do anything about the endings.  That turned out to be false.  Everything she has said today she has said a million times before.  She entertains any idea put out there.  That's her job.  She is not on the developlment side of BW.  

Why would she state facts then?

Modifié par nyrocron, 05 avril 2012 - 07:35 .


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Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.

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So, Capeo... lemme make this clear. When WE doubt PR statements we're being "dense". But when YOU do it, it's a-okay?

Modifié par Shooter__Andy, 05 avril 2012 - 07:37 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

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lex0r11 wrote...

Wow, there are text pyramids of epic proportions grwoing in this thread.


He just created a viagra out of BBcodes..


Ooooooh, no no no!

I will not bring Grunt's newest meme in here.



It's not "whose got something to eat?" is it?Posted Image



Kyzee wrote...

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it.  :sick:



I am honour-bound to motivate, not nauseate.

:P

Modifié par lex0r11, 05 avril 2012 - 07:41 .


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I wouldn't put real weight on what ms Merizan tweets. Most of the stuff is so ambiguous it could mean a number of things.
Some of the tweets from the first week were downright false when you compared them to the actual game.

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byne wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.

What if that means they are dead and in "paradise"? I don't like that, esp. as I don't want Liara to die but.. could make sense.

Modifié par nyrocron, 05 avril 2012 - 07:38 .


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byne wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.


Same here. I've also heard reports of people saying EDI steps out on their Destroy ending. Not confirmed though.

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byne wrote...

But you'd think Bioware would stop her from saying things that are blatantly false.

I doubt they'd allow her to say reuniting with your crew is possible if it isnt.

Also, Capeo, you never answered me.

Didnt you used to be on board with IT? Or am I confusing you with someone else?


I think you're confusing Capeo with myself (same avatar).  I never remembered Capeo being an IT supporter since this thread began.

Also, while I'm hanging on to it as some hope on at least being with the crew again, BioWare has made false statements in the past, as has their PRs.  Again, it won't be a false statement if she is just providing speculation that it is a possibility.

Sorry if I'm being too...conservative.  Some people like to get really excited, others are more cautious.

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Additional cutscenes could prove idoc theory. They might also add additonal gameplay. They just wont change the godchild sequance and colored explosions.

Modifié par Jawsomebob, 05 avril 2012 - 07:38 .


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ecto69 wrote...

funny that this thread has been allowed to get to 1225 pages long, I thought they had a limit, or does that only apply to bugs and issues threads hmmm


Still hasn't been moved to fan fiction either :bandit:

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nyrocron wrote...

byne wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.

What if that means they are dead and in "paradise"? I don't like that, esp. as I don't want Liara to die but.. could make sense.


I never watched Lost, but wasnt that how Lost ended?

And didnt Bioware specifically say they wouldnt do a Lost style ending?

Plus robots dont go to heaven, and EDI is there in Synthesis.

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byne wrote...

I never watched Lost, but wasnt that how Lost ended?

And didnt Bioware specifically say they wouldnt do a Lost style ending?

Plus robots dont go to heaven, and EDI is there in Synthesis.

Don't know/like Lost either but I sure hope you are right.

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LeRavelle wrote...

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I love Jessica and she's the only thing giving me hope right now, but I seriously doubts she knows whats really going on, one way or another.

As I understand it for the most part, PR is only told what they want them to know. Especially when it comes to directly talking about the IT, she doesn't seem to know for sure or not if it's true.


Wether she knows or not, she said she's answering DLC questions which is odd.


It is a little odd, but she's always seemed more willing to just make statements (or assumptions) based on what she DOES know, which I think is what she is doing here. She really hasn't said anything that isn't already implied or common sense in the literal ending.

And if she did know the truth about IT debate, some of the questions she's answering wouldn't even be a consideration.

Modifié par Blind Rapture, 05 avril 2012 - 07:45 .


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byne wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

byne wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.

What if that means they are dead and in "paradise"? I don't like that, esp. as I don't want Liara to die but.. could make sense.


I never watched Lost, but wasnt that how Lost ended?

And didnt Bioware specifically say they wouldnt do a Lost style ending?

Plus robots dont go to heaven, and EDI is there in Synthesis.


Lost ended with them in some sort of purgatory where they all had to meet-up before they "moved-on" or something like that.  And yes, BioWare has stated that in the past.

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byne wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

byne wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.

What if that means they are dead and in "paradise"? I don't like that, esp. as I don't want Liara to die but.. could make sense.


I never watched Lost, but wasnt that how Lost ended?

And didnt Bioware specifically say they wouldnt do a Lost style ending?

Plus robots dont go to heaven, and EDI is there in Synthesis.


Yeah, in Lost the characters have died, I called it in season one but it dragged on for ages (more money!) after the 1st season so I never watched it; it was pretty obvious they were just told to extend the series.

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byne wrote...

nyrocron wrote...

byne wrote...

Kyzee wrote...

You know--kinda OT here, sorry, but I've always suspected the the two squad mates you take with on the run to the beam die (hence why I play with Javik and James--less attached to them.) So when Jessica Merizan mentions that some sacrifices will have to be made for the golden ending it only lends credence to my opinion.

Oh, and lex0r11: if you're referring to the grunt meme I think you are, thank you for not posting it. :sick:


I brought Liara and Javik, since they both provide me with lots of things for my Vanguard to make biotic explosions with.

Liara and Javik both stepped out of the Normandy in the end.

What if that means they are dead and in "paradise"? I don't like that, esp. as I don't want Liara to die but.. could make sense.


I never watched Lost, but wasnt that how Lost ended?

And didnt Bioware specifically say they wouldnt do a Lost style ending?

Plus robots dont go to heaven, and EDI is there in Synthesis.


When you have an LI it's Javik, Joker + LI  when destroy, Sythesis is Joker, Edi + LI but I'm not sure what the game does when you don't have an LI or when you choose control.

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byne wrote...

Capeo wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

Can we please start to REALLY focus on jessica's tweets..because if they're not telling...i don't know what is


Jessica knows nothing of the content of the DLC or anything like that.  If you actually followed her twitter you'd know that.  Her job is to keep people happy.  She has said before she hoped they weren't going to do anything about the endings.  That turned out to be false.  Everything she has said today she has said a million times before.  She entertains any idea put out there.  That's her job.  She is not on the developlment side of BW.  


But you'd think Bioware would stop her from saying things that are blatantly false.

I doubt they'd allow her to say reuniting with your crew is possible if it isnt.

Also, Capeo, you never answered me.

Didnt you used to be on board with IT? Or am I confusing you with someone else?


You must be confusing me with someone else.  As for Jessica?  She tweets from a fan's perspective.  When the endings first blew up she couldn't understand why everyone was up in arms about the Normandy crash because...  she said it was on Earth.  Someone had to point out that the planet had two moons.  And she was like, it did?  

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ecto69 wrote...

funny that this thread has been allowed to get to 1225 pages long, I thought they had a limit, or does that only apply to bugs and issues threads hmmm


What do you mean? theres another thread thats over 2500 pages.

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Sorry..there is nothing ambiguous and definitely no fan perspective about "reunion betweeqn shep and crew is possible"

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Luiginius wrote...

I wouldn't put real weight on what ms Merizan tweets. Most of the stuff is so ambiguous it could mean a number of things.
Some of the tweets from the first week were downright false when you compared them to the actual game.


I know right, the first week I swore she tweeted saying "your choices will play out" but then I looked closer after playing the game and it read "I want anchovies on my pizza".