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samus_smash wrote...

Joker falls asleep while sunbathing. Wakes up to massive sunburn.

Then Harbinger (who is the manager) walks by, smacks the sunburn and SAYS:

"I KNOW THIS HURTS YOU."


Joker turns around to complain because he didn't like the service he just received and as a guest demands he  treat him right!

Harbinger goes to get some sunscreen and comes back to say "I am the Harbinger of your skins protection."

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lex0r11 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Shooter__Andy wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Turns out joker and the crew lands on a holiday resort.

"Visit our "Crashed Normandy" hotel! Smell the fresh air of trees made out of two different kinds of aminoacids! Gaze at the stars and tell stories of violence, war and alien sex to kids!"

Yeah lol and the receptionist is saren.


Service in the Alliance sure does pay off.

Not if your shepard.

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Sorry. :whistle:


^this

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IDT does NOT nullify the ending.  That happened.  IDT completely agrees that the ending happens.  How do we make this clearer?  IDT would require addtional explanation to the ending (clarification and closure) and can be done by cinematics only.


YES IT DOES!.  For IT to be true you would HAVE TO pick destroy.  What don't you get about that?  That makes the other two endings false.  BW has clearly stated in the FAQ that all three endings are valid.  They are not changing the end.

And cinematics only?  Is that a joke?  What?  A cinematic of Shep waking up and shooting Harbinger in the eye: THE END?  


I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.

[Star child appears before Shepard, looking down at him if their EMS was low, or they chose destroy, otherwise the scene changes if it was not.]

SC: Shepard, you disappoint me. It seems there is little point in devoting any further effort to you.

[SC changes into a hologram of Harbinger]

HARBINGER: RELEASING CONTROL.

[Hologram disappears, Harbinger leaving Shepard to die]

[If you picked either Control or Synthesis, and your EMS was low, you watch Shepard die, if you picked Destroy and your EMS was low enough to watch the soldiers get destroyed with the Reapers, you die, and the cutscene changes.]

[Camera pans out from Shepard's body if you picked Destroy, body mostly covered in rubble and recognizable only from the dogtags sticking out and the charred armor.]

HACKETT [on radio]: ..pard, has anyone caught sight of Shepard? 

[squadmates looking for you Garrus and and Liara here] GARRUS: No sign, the approach got totaled after Harbinger's bombardment.

LIARA [whisper to herself]: Not again Shepard, please tell me, not again...

[Garrus turns and lays a hand on her shoulder, giving an encouraging nod.]

[cutscene changes here if you saw the Breath Scene]

Shepard manages to shift the rubble, just barely, Garrus and Liara turn to see Shepard pull just enough of himself from the rubble to weakly prop himself up. Liara turns and her face brightens, Garrus' eyebrows raise in shock, then he runs over to start helping you out, radioing to Hackett]

GARRUS: Alliance Command!, We have Shepard, repeat, we have Shepard!

[the rest of your squad, any and all living members comment via radio, they're all running search and rescue teams of their own.]

HACKETT: Thank God, Garrus, we're sending a medical and extraction team, hold your ground until they get there.

[A few shots come zipping by, fired by a cannibal, Garrus turns and pops the cannibal through the head, before taking cover, Liara helps prop shepard up against a chunk of rubble dispensing medi-gel. Then a conversation begins, Shepard may choose to investigate several options, including "What happened?" "Where's Harbinger?" "What happened to the Crucible?" and then you can end the conversation by commenting either that you are glad that they found you rather than some husk, or that you're pissed about the state of things.

Answers to each investigate go as follows;

"What happened?"

SHEPARD [Weakly]: What's the suituation?

GARRUS [taking cover from more Cannibal fire]: It's been two days since the seige started, Hammer team got wiped out, we assumed you were dead.

SHEPARD [sarcastically] : Well that's comforting.

[Garrus chuckles]

LIARA: After Hammer was destroyed, we nearly gave up, 

GARRUS [interrupting, still in cover, stands up to fire a few shots from his sniper rifle, blasts a Husk through the head]: Ha! [Satisfied smirk, nod.]  We did.

SHEPARD: What changed?

GARRUS: Well, yesterday, the Reapers started acting strange, their ground forces were acting uncoordinated and almost... feral. More so than usual I mean. It was almost like they were focusing on something, We figured that something was you.

SHEPARD [sudden moan of pain, clutches his temples]: Agh... mm... I think you might be right.

"Where's Harbinger?"

SHEPARD: So, what happened to Harbinger? Last I saw him was on the approach.

GARRUS: Harbinger's been a non issue the past two days. We're lucky, it gave us some time to recover.

LIARA: It's as though he's been distracted, focusing on something. Ignoring everything else.

GARRUS: We figured that something was you.

"What happened to the Crucible?"

SHEPARD: What about the Crucible? Last thing I can remember, it wasn't firing.

GARRUS [turns, and looks at Shepard, suprised.]: You heard wrong, it fired alright, in the Reapers favor.

SHEPARD [look of confusion]: What?

LIARA: The Crucible was a trap, when it fired, it started sending out an indoctrination signal. We lost some of the fleet taking it down.

GARRUS: Luckily, Admiral Hackett was on top of it, he ordered the thing destroyed before it could endanger the whole fleet.

SHEPARD: Damn it!

GARRUS [stands, sights a target and nails a Marauder though the eye]: We're holding our own though, the lull for the past two days has been giving us time to recover. We still have a chance.

SHEPARD: "You have hope, more than you know/deserve"

LIARA [A look of concern for Shepard]: What? 

SHEPARD: Nothing.

"I'm glad you found me." [PARAGON]

SHEPARD: I'm glad it's you two who found me, getting turned into a husk wasn't what I was really planning for my retirement.

[Garrus chuckles, Liara smiles]

"Sons of ****es." [RENEGADE]

SHEPARD: Damn it, don't they ever give up?

GARRUS: Would you?

SHEPARD [watches an Alliance squad being assaulted by a number of Husks in the distance.]: No.

[Both lead to the same scene, a horde of Reaper ground forces start to come up the hill, Garrus blasts the heads off a few as they approach, Shepard tries to stand up, Liara forces him/her to sit down, turns and blasts the Reapers with a Singularity. After a moment or two of watching the combat, a shuttle, flanked by two gunships comes in close, the gunships blasting away at the encroaching ground forces before the shuttle lands, two EMTs climb out and ask where Shepard is, Liara points out his location and they load him into the shuttle, one distributing more medi-gel as he's loaded on, Garrus and Liara climbing in after. if the player saw the breath scene and managed to sit up enough to get their attention, then there are no problems, a Reaper collumn starts making their way in, but a number of ships from the fleet strafe them and the shuttle takes off with Shepard, Liara and Garrus on board. If your EMS was too low then the scene is the same as above, with the following differences; Shepard doesn't manage to sit up, but instead lies in the rubble and shifts enough to get Garrus and Liara's attention. They prop him up, allowing the same conversation as before, only when the ship takes off, the collumn comes in, with no problems, Garrus and Liara climb off the shuttle to buy them time, several Alliance Marines joining them, a cutscene follows, watching them fight as Shepard tries to gather the strength to tell them not to throw their lives away, but we only get to watch helplessly as Garrus' position is overrun by Husks, Liara is killed by a blast from a Banshee, and one of the two gunships escorting you gets shot down.]

[Shepard is taken to an Alliance Field hospital, Anderson is there to greet them off the shuttle. If Liara and Garrus died, then he offers his condolences, especially if Liara was a LI, if not then the scene plays out like this;]

[Shuttle and Gunship/s touch down at a feild hospital. Anderson walks up the the landing pad as Shepard is rushed out on a gurney. He motions for the EMTs to stop for a moment]

ANDERSON: You look good son.

SHEPARD [smiles weakly]: Liar.

ANDERSON [smiles back.]: Sometimes a little self-delusion is good for you. It's damn good to see you alive.

SHEPARD: You too sir, you helped alot.

ANDERSON [watches Shepard get hauled away by the EMTs]: I did?

[Garrus and Liara come up and greet Anderson as you're hauled away, no dialogue as you watch, an EMT looks down at you, you look through Shepard's eyes and watch as a breath mask is fitted over your mouth and nose, the EMT commenting about how this should help you sleep comfortably. You begin to black out.]

[Shepard begins to wake up, your vision swimming into focus, pan out to Shepard lying clean and bandaged in bed, it looks like Huerta Memorial. s/he's surrounded by flowers, gifts, a few "Get well Shepard" cards and you can see several of your squad talking to the doctors on the other side of the glass, you can't move at this point, but you can look around the room and read the cards/ look at the flowers, Shepard comments about each. After you've interacted with everything you can, some items appear based off of whom you've helped throughout the game, last two games, ect. Things like packages of display replicas of your N7 armor from Conrad Verner if he's alive, with his usual hero worship notes, a joke book from EDI and Joker, boxes of chocolates and flowers from Kaiden, a book of Tennyson poems from Ash, a Haiku from Kasumi, a copy of Fornax, along with a note from Aria, things of that nature. After reading through them, your LI notices Shepard's awake, in this case, let's assume Ash.]

ASHLEY[pushes the doctor aside and opens the door, looks down, and smiles.]: Hey Skipper.

SHEPARD: Ash! It's good to see you.

ASHLEY [smiles]: It's good to see you awake. [sits down on a bench next to your bed.]

SHEPARD [the realization of where he is setting in]: What's going on? What happened to the Citadel? Where's the Reapers?

ASHLEY: Woah, slow down Commander. It's ok, the front is lighyears away for now.

SHEPARD: For now?

ASHLEY [sighs, not wanting to talk about the subject when you've just woken up from your coma.]: We've pushed the Reapers off of Earth. But we haven't won the war yet. But we have a chance now. Harbinger is still out there, but now we've got time to rebuild. And at least we've got you around to help.

SHEPARD [lies back, mulling it over.]: I'm just... so tired...

ASHLEY [smiles, leans over, kisses Shepard and gently pushes him back into his pillows]: "Rest now, brave soldier."

SHEPARD [smiles]: The soldier in question is dying in that poem you know.

ASHLEY [smiles]: You ass, it's the thought that counts.

[Fade to black]

[Text crawl, changes based off of descisions, lets assume you saved the Krogan, made peace between Geth and Quarians]

In the year 2187 AD, soldiers of the Earth Systems Alliance fought a desperate war against an overwhelming enemy. Earth was left to burn as these machines, called Reapers by the galaxy at large spread like a cancer across the Milky Way. One soldier faced them. Brokering peace between forces considered unreconcileable,s/he forged a navy unlike any seen before and returned to take back his home. The war was not without it's sacrifices. Though the tide may have turned, with enemy either dead or in retreat, they remain implacable, patient and not without resources.

The war is not over.

[Stars appear as text fades, camera pans 180 degrees to face Harbinger, who lets out a metallic scream  as his eyes flash.] 

HARBINGER: SHEPARD. YOU HAVE MERELY DELAYED THE INEVITABLE. WE SHALL RETURN, AND YOU SHALL NOT STOP US. YOUR CONTINUED EXISTENCE IS INMAETERIAL, YOU ARE NOT SUITED FOR ASCENSION. RELEASING CONTROL.

[A number of husks on various worlds drop dead. Pan back to Harbinger, whom leads the remainder of the Reaper Fleet into dark space to lick their wounds. Cue credits]

[If Shepard ended up choosing Control or Synthesis with high EMS, then a different cutscene lineup shows, with Shepard climbin out of the rubble, looking considerably worse for wear, his cybernetics extremely apparent now. He shoots Garrus and Liara himself, grabbing a pistol out of a dead soldier's hand before picking up a comm and calling Hackett for a shuttle for pick up, claiming Liara and Garrus were killed by an ambush. Shepard waits for the shuttle, gets picked up, patched up by the EMTs whom are amazed at his resillience, take him back to the hospital for a check up so he can go back in action as quickly as possible, Shepard looks out of the camera at the player and grins evilly as his eyes flash yellow. Text crawl and end credits.]

[If Shepard died, then Garrus and Liara find his body and pull it out, Liara is distraught, Garrus nearly breaking into tears himself, the two hug each other, and signal Hackett, whom is also audibly upset by this turn of events himself. Liara and Garrus signal for a shuttle, which arrives quickly, carrying Liara and Garrus, as well as Shepar's body away. Cut to Shepard's funeral, presided over by Admiral Hackett. Harbinger declares a moral victory of sorts, having at least rid the galaxy of his biggest threat before leading the Reapers into dark space.]

Post credits:

CHILD: That was a good story.

STARGAZER: I'm glad you liked it. I'm very fond of it too.

CHILD: So... what happened after?

STARGAZER [laugh]: That's another story my sweet, and one not related to The Shepard.

CHILD: Well.. what happened to him? And his friends?

STARGAZER: Well...

[cut to text crawl, blue background, ME1 theme playing. Text crawl next to each character's picture, including all squad mates, Wrex, Aria, Joker/EDI, Grissom Academy, Earth, Cerberus, TIM ect.]

There, a serviceable ending, incorporating IT, and entirely in cutscenes. Point made. 

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N7xELITE wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Shooter__Andy wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Turns out joker and the crew lands on a holiday resort.

"Visit our "Crashed Normandy" hotel! Smell the fresh air of trees made out of two different kinds of aminoacids! Gaze at the stars and tell stories of violence, war and alien sex to kids!"

Yeah lol and the receptionist is saren.


Service in the Alliance sure does pay off.

Not if your shepard.



Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh.


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Well, well ... that's what happens when you are off the forums for a while: EA/Bioware still goes "na, na - i won't tell you", everyone goes mad and lots of trolls flood in from everywhere ...

Man, I wish I had my Carnifex ...

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Why does Shepard wear red lipstick? Bleh.

Omg, what am I doing here?

/fades.

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Please don't let it end like this.




This is how I want to die.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

samus_smash wrote...

Joker falls asleep while sunbathing. Wakes up to massive sunburn.

Then Harbinger (who is the manager) walks by, smacks the sunburn and SAYS:

"I KNOW THIS HURTS YOU."


Joker turns around to complain because he didn't like the service he just received and as a guest demands he  treat him right!

Harbinger goes to get some sunscreen and comes back to say "I am the Harbinger of your skins protection."


LOL.

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lex0r11 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Shooter__Andy wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Turns out joker and the crew lands on a holiday resort.

"Visit our "Crashed Normandy" hotel! Smell the fresh air of trees made out of two different kinds of aminoacids! Gaze at the stars and tell stories of violence, war and alien sex to kids!"

Yeah lol and the receptionist is saren.


Service in the Alliance sure does pay off.

Not if your shepard.



Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh.


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Thanks for reminding me. If THAT face was the result of Bioware responding to fan feedback, how can this new DLC possibly turn out good?

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

Please don't let it end like this.




This is how I want to die.

*Bacon images snipped*


Bacon? 

At leas make it Mass Effect related. :D

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lex0r11 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Shooter__Andy wrote...

N7xELITE wrote...

Turns out joker and the crew lands on a holiday resort.

"Visit our "Crashed Normandy" hotel! Smell the fresh air of trees made out of two different kinds of aminoacids! Gaze at the stars and tell stories of violence, war and alien sex to kids!"

Yeah lol and the receptionist is saren.


Service in the Alliance sure does pay off.

Not if your shepard.

 


Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh.


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Ha Ha Ha well i did :devil:

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Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?

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Blind Rapture wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh.


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Thanks for reminding me. If THAT face was the result of Bioware responding to fan feedback, how can this new DLC possibly turn out good?



Yeahhhh I've got to say that has got to be the most hideous of all possible Shepards

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What george clooney as batman.

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The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying

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What george clooney as batman.


And Robin's nipples.  And all the silver.  (pun intended) 

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Tirian Thorn wrote...

The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying


She translated better into art than she did into game model/CGI, I guess. :?

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njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?


They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.

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njfluffy19 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying


She translated better into art than she did into game model/CGI, I guess. :?


I was disappointed by that. 

I'm playing my femshep Sentinel now.  Finshed ME2 on Tuesday now working on ME3. 

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njfluffy19 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying


She translated better into art than she did into game model/CGI, I guess. :?


she looks horrible in-game, even the ME2 default femshep looked way better, she doesn't even look like a person imo.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

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Capeo wrote...


IDT does NOT nullify the ending.  That happened.  IDT completely agrees that the ending happens.  How do we make this clearer?  IDT would require addtional explanation to the ending (clarification and closure) and can be done by cinematics only.


YES IT DOES!.  For IT to be true you would HAVE TO pick destroy.  What don't you get about that?  That makes the other two endings false.  BW has clearly stated in the FAQ that all three endings are valid.  They are not changing the end.

And cinematics only?  Is that a joke?  What?  A cinematic of Shep waking up and shooting Harbinger in the eye: THE END?  


I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.


Stopped reading your fanfic right there because that's the whole friggin' point.  Forcing people to play for the Destroy ending would be A MASSIVE CHANGE.  They would never ever do that.  They would never nullify the other two choices.  They have clearly stated they are standing by the endings as is.  From the FAQ:

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?
No.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?
Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.

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lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?


They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.




Here you are, sir. :wizard: