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[Tirian Thorn]

njfluffy19 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?

They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.

Here you are, sir.

beaten to it

Modifié par Tirian Thorn, 05 avril 2012 - 08:50 .

[Tsuarn]

Arian Dynas wrote...

I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.

[Star child appears before Shepard, looking down at him if their EMS was low, or they chose destroy, otherwise the scene changes if it was not.]

SC: Shepard, you disappoint me. It seems there is little point in devoting any further effort to you.

......
*snip*
..... 

CHILD: So... what happened after?

STARGAZER [laugh]: That's another story my sweet, and one not related to The Shepard.

CHILD: Well.. what happened to him? And his friends?

STARGAZER: Well...

[cut to text crawl, blue background, ME1 theme playing. Text crawl next to each character's picture, including all squad mates, Wrex, Aria, Joker/EDI, Grissom Academy, Earth, Cerberus, TIM ect.]

There, a serviceable ending, incorporating IT, and entirely in cutscenes. Point made. 

You Sir! I love this! Look here Bioware someone made it for you!

Modifié par Tsuarn, 05 avril 2012 - 08:51 .

[njfluffy19]

LeRavelle wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying

She translated better into art than she did into game model/CGI, I guess.

she looks horrible in-game, even the ME2 default femshep looked way better, she doesn't even look like a person imo.

Plastic surgery has not progressed well into the future.

[lex0r11]

njfluffy19 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?

They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.

Here you are, sir.

Ah, space magic at it's best. I am in your debt!

Don't really have a comment on the CGI looks, hmm. Maybe later.

[JustAidan]

njfluffy19 wrote...

LeRavelle wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying

She translated better into art than she did into game model/CGI, I guess.

she looks horrible in-game, even the ME2 default femshep looked way better, she doesn't even look like a person imo.

Plastic surgery has not progressed well into the future.

I prefer the rough Femshep from the first two games, she looked liked a military woman who hangs around with loads of marines all the time and didn't look like she was trying to be a supermodel.

[lex0r11]

Tsuarn wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.

[Star child appears before Shepard, looking down at him if their EMS was low, or they chose destroy, otherwise the scene changes if it was not.]

SC: Shepard, you disappoint me. It seems there is little point in devoting any further effort to you.

......
*snip*
..... 

CHILD: So... what happened after?

STARGAZER [laugh]: That's another story my sweet, and one not related to The Shepard.

CHILD: Well.. what happened to him? And his friends?

STARGAZER: Well...

[cut to text crawl, blue background, ME1 theme playing. Text crawl next to each character's picture, including all squad mates, Wrex, Aria, Joker/EDI, Grissom Academy, Earth, Cerberus, TIM ect.]

There, a serviceable ending, incorporating IT, and entirely in cutscenes. Point made. 

You Sir! I love this! Look here Bioware someone made it for you!

/sign

Thank you for your effort, nice read.

[njfluffy19]

Headcanon saves the endings.

Also, who will be peeved if they turn this into an MMO 3 years down the road? I won't buy it. Mass Effect will always remain in my heart as an action rpg.

However, if they made an FPS or TPS with Garrus as its playable character...

[Sire Styx]

People in this topic have discussed and put forward REALLY good alternatives to this ending and how to go about it. Even if the endings were kept, IT can go on to improve the game afterwards, meaning the original 'art' endings are kept but still finishing the game to our satisfaction.

However, if the FAQ thing is true and the endings are being kept, then it's a bit disillusioning. If the endings are just 'clarified' (i.e. not added to, or changed or whatever) then that's not helping anyone and it's essentially bioware going "here, this is what the endings mean because you are too dumb to understand this art."

Anyway, I've summed up what I think will happen in this image lol.

[schneeland]

JustAidan wrote...

[...]

I prefer the rough Femshep from the first two games, she looked liked a military woman who hangs around with loads of marines all the time and didn't look like she was trying to be a supermodel.

Agreed.

Actually, it's a bit strange, given the graphics weren't too impressive, but I really liked the overall tune of the design best in ME 1.

[Freckle Face]

Tirian Thorn wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?

They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.

Here you are, sir.

beaten to it

Beatin' to it? Dude she's not THAT hot 

[Kazalord2]

Oh holy ****, i just noticed that a special episode of Futurama features somrthing very familiar to our discussion !

[JustAidan]

njfluffy19 wrote...

Headcanon saves the endings.

And protects you from getting captured by the NSF.

But urgh, an MMO of Mass Effect, I thought what people liked about Mass Effect of the story driven/diverging content.

Some games are MMOs, some games are not, trying to capitalise on the popularity of one to produce the other doesn't always work.

[njfluffy19]

Freckle Face wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?

They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.

Here you are, sir.

beaten to it

Beatin' to it? Dude she's not THAT hot 

I lol'd.

[Arian Dynas]

lex0r11 wrote...

Tsuarn wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I will prove that IT can work within the constraints of a cinematic. Watch.

Shepard Breath Scene, then, new custscene begins.

[Star child appears before Shepard, looking down at him if their EMS was low, or they chose destroy, otherwise the scene changes if it was not.]

SC: Shepard, you disappoint me. It seems there is little point in devoting any further effort to you.

......
*snip*
..... 

CHILD: So... what happened after?

STARGAZER [laugh]: That's another story my sweet, and one not related to The Shepard.

CHILD: Well.. what happened to him? And his friends?

STARGAZER: Well...

[cut to text crawl, blue background, ME1 theme playing. Text crawl next to each character's picture, including all squad mates, Wrex, Aria, Joker/EDI, Grissom Academy, Earth, Cerberus, TIM ect.]

There, a serviceable ending, incorporating IT, and entirely in cutscenes. Point made. 

You Sir! I love this! Look here Bioware someone made it for you!

/sign

Thank you for your effort, nice read.

*bow* thank you, thank you, I pride myself on my skill.

But don't get me wrong. This isn't what I imagine the cutscene endings to be. This is what I expect Bioware to MAKE.

The simple explanation of "Bioware dropped the ball." simply defies logic, it requires them to somehow, simataneously be excellent at their jobs (as ME3 attests for the most part) while somehow being absolutely TERRIBLE at their jobs. requiring the entire writing team, as well as the developers, the investors, publisher and CO, CEO, and COO to suddenly, somehow have had brain anuyresms all at the same moment.

MORDIN: Statistically unlikely. Verbal irony, communication of idea intended to bite. Clever. Very clever.

[Vahilor]

Somhow I have that bad feeling in my gut....

[schneeland]

Sire Styx wrote...

People in this topic have discussed and put forward REALLY good alternatives to this ending and how to go about it. Even if the endings were kept, IT can go on to improve the game afterwards, meaning the original 'art' endings are kept but still finishing the game to our satisfaction.

However, if the FAQ thing is true and the endings are being kept, then it's a bit disillusioning. If the endings are just 'clarified' (i.e. not added to, or changed or whatever) then that's not helping anyone and it's essentially bioware going "here, this is what the endings mean because you are too dumb to understand this art."

Anyway, I've summed up what I think will happen in this image lol.

Nicely summed up. I kind of wonder where Bioware/EA is heading with all this. I will wait until tomorrow for making my final judgement, but it confuses me how they handle the whole ending debate - I really feel unable to believe that they thought they would get away unharmed with the current ending taked at face value. Yet, even if it turns out that they have some IT-compatible explenation, waiting to disclose it until summer is going to leave a lot of people (including me) quite bitter.

But then, let's see what (space) magic they have prepared for tomorrow.

[njfluffy19]

Vahilor wrote...

Somhow I have that bad feeling in my gut....

Okay, seriously. I am not coming back till after PAX, DAMN IT!!!

[LeRavelle]

Freckle Face wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

njfluffy19 wrote...

Did anyone see the "Take Earth Back" CGI trailer with FemShep? I hear everyone prattle on about how 'hot' she looked. She looked like effin Ronald McDonald, amirite? Amirite?

They did a female CGI version? I totally missed that.

Here you are, sir.

beaten to it

Beatin' to it? Dude she's not THAT hot 

This was nothing compared to Dragon Age's characters in Cinematic Trailers, concept art, website art and in-game art, Morrigans looked different in all four of them.

[samus_smash]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

samus_smash wrote...

Joker falls asleep while sunbathing. Wakes up to massive sunburn.

Then Harbinger (who is the manager) walks by, smacks the sunburn and SAYS:

"I KNOW THIS HURTS YOU."

Joker turns around to complain because he didn't like the service he just received and as a guest demands he  treat him right!

Harbinger goes to get some sunscreen and comes back to say "I am the Harbinger of your skins protection."

Joker demands to speak to the owner about this. The godchild approaches and ignores Joker's complaints.

He instead gives Joker three choices: blue, green and red.

Blue: Harbinger puts up an umbrella to protect Joker from the sun. Then the resort explodes.

Green: Harbinger and Joker fuse into one being that is impervious to the sun. Then the resort explodes.

Red: Joker would rather be sunburnt then accept help from Harbinger. He later discovers he has developed skin cancer but it doesn't matter because the resort explodes.

[Arian Dynas]

schneeland wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

People in this topic have discussed and put forward REALLY good alternatives to this ending and how to go about it. Even if the endings were kept, IT can go on to improve the game afterwards, meaning the original 'art' endings are kept but still finishing the game to our satisfaction.

However, if the FAQ thing is true and the endings are being kept, then it's a bit disillusioning. If the endings are just 'clarified' (i.e. not added to, or changed or whatever) then that's not helping anyone and it's essentially bioware going "here, this is what the endings mean because you are too dumb to understand this art."

Anyway, I've summed up what I think will happen in this image lol.

Nicely summed up. I kind of wonder where Bioware/EA is heading with all this. I will wait until tomorrow for making my final judgement, but it confuses me how they handle the whole ending debate - I really feel unable to believe that they thought they would get away unharmed with the current ending taked at face value. Yet, even if it turns out that they have some IT-compatible explenation, waiting to disclose it until summer is going to leave a lot of people (including me) quite bitter.

But then, let's see what (space) magic they have prepared for tomorrow.

One thing everyone seems to keep forgetting.

Clarification does not mean no addition. If you ask someone to "clarify" their feelings, they explain their motivations, they don't go "I am feeling upset because I am upset" That's tautology, not clarification.

Worst case scenario? They give clarification of how the SPAAAAAACE MAGIIICCC! worked, how everyone teleported, and somehow why it is everything we know is wrong.

But the thing is, they are on record as having said things like not to trust the boy, and tons of other things, even "well, I wouldn't trust it then" when asked how the squad teleported onto the Normandy.

Why would they make us distrust things if they are meant to be taken at a face value?

[LOST SPARTANJLC]

Harbinger 2.0 , he traveled back in time to explore his new found humanity.

http://www.comicbook...d=11991&cover=1 

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

Being able to reunite with your crew, when we have no way of knowing where they crashed, and no Mass Relays
to reach them even if we did know, somehow makes even less sense than the current endings.

I don't know about that. I honestly can't think of anything that makes less sense than synthesis. Synthesis is "absolute zero" for logic.

balance5050 wrote...

Guys just picture the thread as if we we're all in a room, We got a heated fight right in the middle, tons of people watching and gasping, naysayers, believers, And some guy in the corner reciting gospel like it's the end of days!!

This is the best thread EVER!!

"It's like there's a party in my mouth and everyone is throwing up!"

JustAidan wrote...

Quoting for important.
Quote 2 is important as she wonders where people are getting the "no playable content" from
Also: Jessica is definitely a sadist or a really mean older sister who teases you all the time.
*shakes fist*

I think the most telling is where she said Shepard will live if you pick red with high EMS.

ConVito wrote...

STOP WITH THE RELIGION TALK. PLEASE.

Amen! ... Errr, I mean...

byne wrote...

Plus robots dont go to heaven, and EDI is there in Synthesis.

Byne-Commander, you do not think that unit has a soul?

njfluffy19 wrote...

Tirian Thorn wrote...

The Femshep on the metal casing for the N7 Edition looks HOT!!

/just saying

She translated better into art than she did into game model/CGI, I guess.

QFT. FemShep looks goofy in the game. At least Shepaloo looks realistic, even if a lot of people don't like the look. Default FemShep, there's... I don't know. I can't quite put my finger on it, but the proportions of her face just don't look realistic.

[Big G13]

samus_smash wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

samus_smash wrote...

Joker falls asleep while sunbathing. Wakes up to massive sunburn.

Then Harbinger (who is the manager) walks by, smacks the sunburn and SAYS:

"I KNOW THIS HURTS YOU."

Joker turns around to complain because he didn't like the service he just received and as a guest demands he  treat him right!

Harbinger goes to get some sunscreen and comes back to say "I am the Harbinger of your skins protection."

Joker demands to speak to the owner about this. The godchild approaches and ignores Joker's complaints.

He instead gives Joker three choices: blue, green and red.

Blue: Harbinger puts up an umbrella to protect Joker from the sun. Then the resort explodes.

Green: Harbinger and Joker fuse into one being that is impervious to the sun. Then the resort explodes.

Red: Joker would rather be sunburnt then accept help from Harbinger. He later discovers he has developed skin cancer but it doesn't matter because the resort explodes.

Well said.

[LeRavelle]

They should have used a real model to scan their face like they did with Meer.

[Freckle Face]

Arian Dynas wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

People in this topic have discussed and put forward REALLY good alternatives to this ending and how to go about it. Even if the endings were kept, IT can go on to improve the game afterwards, meaning the original 'art' endings are kept but still finishing the game to our satisfaction.

However, if the FAQ thing is true and the endings are being kept, then it's a bit disillusioning. If the endings are just 'clarified' (i.e. not added to, or changed or whatever) then that's not helping anyone and it's essentially bioware going "here, this is what the endings mean because you are too dumb to understand this art."

Anyway, I've summed up what I think will happen in this image lol.

Nicely summed up. I kind of wonder where Bioware/EA is heading with all this. I will wait until tomorrow for making my final judgement, but it confuses me how they handle the whole ending debate - I really feel unable to believe that they thought they would get away unharmed with the current ending taked at face value. Yet, even if it turns out that they have some IT-compatible explenation, waiting to disclose it until summer is going to leave a lot of people (including me) quite bitter.

But then, let's see what (space) magic they have prepared for tomorrow.

One thing everyone seems to keep forgetting.

Clarification does not mean no addition. If you ask someone to "clarify" their feelings, they explain their motivations, they don't go "I am feeling upset because I am upset" That's tautology, not clarification.

Worst case scenario? They give clarification of how the SPAAAAAACE MAGIIICCC! worked, how everyone teleported, and somehow why it is everything we know is wrong.

But the thing is, they are on record as having said things like not to trust the boy, and tons of other things, even "well, I wouldn't trust it then" when asked how the squad teleported onto the Normandy.

Why would they make us distrust things if they are meant to be taken at a face value?

Do you have a source for them saying the god child isn't necessarily to be trusted? I find that very interesting.

I really think that all they wanted was to give us an ending with more than one interpretation, and the problem is that they just left it a bit TOO open-ended for anyone's liking.