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[schneeland]

LeRavelle wrote...

schneeland wrote...

On a sidenote: in a feeling of nostalgia I was watching ME1 videos ... didn't remember how scary Sovereign actually was when it first appeared (http://www.youtube.c...fIryAxeY#t=300s)

this mission just got a lot more complicated.

this is still one of my favorite parts of the series, so very well written, intimidating and well voiced.

Yes, this was pretty amazing. Looking at these videos, I notice that even if they totally screw up that ending DLC, I can still play ME 1 - kind of in a similar way I can still watch Matrix even though I have seen the sequels.

And of course you can still go:

[GME_ThorianCreeper]

To get this thread back on track here, what does todays announcement mean for the IT? I personally believe the IT is still a good prediction for what the summer DLC will entail and that it is still a legitimate theory.

[Spiderman_2028]

legaldinho wrote...

None of you understand, or at least most on either side of the debate. "Artistic integrity" means the indoctrination interpretation should stand without making an ending that says "woops he's indoctrinated, sorry: have another go. YOU WIN." It means the interpretation is valid, but the face-value ending is prima facie valid as well. They're simply going to try to sell the face-value ending to the fans, make it more acceptable, easier to swallow. They never intended to release any DLC on the ending, and those adherents of IT who believed in it because "the true ending" would come only have themselves to blame for their naivety. The gloaters are even more stupid, because if they understood the theory they would understand it's an interpretation.

Bioware tried to make Total Recall, and failed.

This.

[JustAidan]

Falloutwarfare wrote...

@justAidan if they did that harbringer would actualy crash through the roof and lazer the lot of them.
That or garrus shall kill them all..... With a mantis sniper...... And only 1 thermal clip

I can just hear the Harbinger's voice just before they refuse to discuse the ending.

"THIS HURTS ME"

[Sire Styx]

waldstr18 wrote...

Sire Styx wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

im with ou guys on that. i surely hope they gonna clarify the whole indoctrination myth. i cant wait until summer to tell you that you were wrong and i knew it all along.

I know you don't like IT, but surely you can't like the ending?
That would be like betting that the world will end in Dec 2012. If it does, you win, but you still lose :|

haha, no i dont like them. nobody does. not even the casual german gamers do, i found out today. exgirlfriend told me, her brother played it, too, didnt like the endings. and he is one of these business types who only plays games if there is no more work to be done.

anyhow. i just think the idt is a copout (if its spelled that way), but i already mentioned all that. dont change the endings. add a epiloge, and if its just 10 pages of text. as long as it explains whats going on.

I like IT because it can explain the ending away without betraying the rest of the series. I wouldn't say it's a cop out, just making the best of a bad situation. I would accept (almost) any other theory though or any other way they can improve the ending, if they explain why all this 'space magic' happened. I would happily accept this weird catalyst child thing, if it wasn't for the fact it knacks up the 'science' of the series.
The mass effect universe isn't a cartoon, so the self-defined laws of that universe shouldn't be broken.

So yeah, I kinda agree with your. I'd be happy (well, I'd not be too upset) if they explained ending without space magic

[waldstr18]

sorry to ask, but what was the space magic again? i recall the joker beaming up the the crew thingy. was there something else? the green ending maybe?

[Fingertrip]

So yeah, I kinda agree with your. I'd be happy (well, I'd not be too upset) if they explained ending without space magic

I don't want to come across rude on this, but Biotics, FTL, Mass Relays and the list goes on and on and on- isn't Space Magic? =|

[Freckle Face]

Baldsake wrote...

 
"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh... you touched my tralala" 
lol im sorry

Always a classic 

[waldstr18]

Fingertrip wrote...

So yeah, I kinda agree with your. I'd be happy (well, I'd not be too upset) if they explained ending without space magic

I don't want to come across rude on this, but Biotics, FTL, Mass Relays and the list goes on and on and on- isn't Space Magic? =|

he or someone else just said "dont break the self made rules". so everything outside those is considered as space magic. for example the crew being back on the normandy even though they just were right behind you (2 of them at least) and the other ones somewhere on earth. no teleportation in mass effect, therefor space magic.

[balance5050]

Fingertrip wrote...

So yeah, I kinda agree with your. I'd be happy (well, I'd not be too upset) if they explained ending without space magic

I don't want to come across rude on this, but Biotics, FTL, Mass Relays and the list goes on and on and on- isn't Space Magic? =|

It's all explained through the codex, its a new element called Element Zero, it manipulates dark energy.

[LeRavelle]

waldstr18 wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

So yeah, I kinda agree with your. I'd be happy (well, I'd not be too upset) if they explained ending without space magic

I don't want to come across rude on this, but Biotics, FTL, Mass Relays and the list goes on and on and on- isn't Space Magic? =|

he or someone else just said "dont break the self made rules". so everything outside those is considered as space magic. for example the crew being back on the normandy even though they just were right behind you (2 of them at least) and the other ones somewhere on earth. no teleportation in mass effect, therefor space magic.

Well FTL and Biotics isn't really magic but more like super advanced science.

[Rifneno]

LeRavelle wrote...

Dance Craze wrote...

This was a non ending, It is like the godfather ending right before the baptism.

Then suddenly the extended ending is a Soprano's ending and we can speculate what really happend all over again ;p

Actually, we know how that turned out.  Hint: Tony's insurance company wasn't happy with the ending.

[schneeland]

waldstr18 wrote...

sorry to ask, but what was the space magic again? i recall the joker beaming up the the crew thingy. was there something else? the green ending maybe?

I think so. The joker-thing and the synthesis, for me, are really the biggest pieces of nonsense.

Edit: Oh, forgot about the Shephard breath scene.

Modifié par schneeland, 05 avril 2012 - 10:06 .

[Sire Styx]

waldstr18 wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

So yeah, I kinda agree with your. I'd be happy (well, I'd not be too upset) if they explained ending without space magic

I don't want to come across rude on this, but Biotics, FTL, Mass Relays and the list goes on and on and on- isn't Space Magic? =|

he or someone else just said "dont break the self made rules". so everything outside those is considered as space magic. for example the crew being back on the normandy even though they just were right behind you (2 of them at least) and the other ones somewhere on earth. no teleportation in mass effect, therefor space magic.

@Fingertrip
Yeah, I'm perfectly happy if they say "Ok, so we can fly around faster than the speed of light and use this chemical to become telekinetic" and accept that as rules for the series.

But if in the last 5 minutes they go "By the way, we've changed the reaper's backstroy, you can now teleport, light can travel faster than light, Joker can survive an massive crash totally unharmed, and shepard can survive an explosion, a bigger explosion, asphyxiation, reentry into earths atmosphere and impact into the ground perfectly fine" then it streaches my belief.

[Chyliss]

All they would have to say is something like:

"The unlimited ammo was just to make things easier, it wasn't meant to be relevant. We should have made that more clear."

If something like that is true, then I can move on and they can clarify, everybody wins! By not saying something right now, something relevant, they risk frustrating an awful lot of people on all sides.

[Sire Styx]

schneeland wrote...

Lol

[byne]

schneeland wrote...

waldstr18 wrote...

sorry to ask, but what was the space magic again? i recall the joker beaming up the the crew thingy. was there something else? the green ending maybe?

I think so. The joker-thing and the synthesis, for me, are really the biggest pieces of nonsense.

Yeah, Synthesis is the biggest Space Magic.

[schneeland]

Sire Styx wrote...

schneeland wrote...

Lol

I think this needs to be spread over the whole Internets

[waldstr18]

ive already seen that one (byne video). but i guess im a lot more gullable then you guys, cause i didnt think of the the green ending as space magic at all.
also i read somewhere that there is a piece of dialog in which joker says hes picking up the gang, but im not exactly sure. been a while.

Modifié par waldstr18, 05 avril 2012 - 10:09 .

[balance5050]

waldstr18 wrote...

ive already seen that one (byne video). but i guess im a lot more gullable then you guys, cause i didnt think of the the green ending as space magic at all.
also i read somewhere that there is a piece of dialog in which joker says hes picking up the gang, but im not exactly sure. been a while.

How is changing the molecular makeup of every single organism AND friggen robot in the Galaxy not ?

[waldstr18]

the glowing child told me that would happen, so i believe it.

i believe in the good of people and glowing children.

[balance5050]

 So what does QEC mean?

https://twitter.com/...026950793703425 

[TheVanguard1227]

 They said that they are releasing the extended cut that will clarify the ending but they will also not release new ending dlc. So my question is... would you consider Lair of the Shadow Broker and The Arrival ending dlc? The extended cut could simply make the IT less subtle and more obvious and then release new story dlc that takes place after the ending like LotSB and The Arrival.

[lex0r11]

double fail.

Modifié par lex0r11, 05 avril 2012 - 10:19 .

[Sire Styx]

Synthesis= fusing organics and synthetics to create a new DNA.

I can believe they melt organics down or whatever to make cyborg war machines. But somehow altering the DNA of all organic beings in the galaxy and merging it with synthetic DNA (lol whut) is supposedly ok, but somehow targeting and killing only reapers is not?

I mean, DNA is much much smaller, than say, a giant reaper. And it's all wrapped up in chromosomes and any weird alterations to it (aka mutations) can kill/cause cancer/make infertile. So how can the catalyst target this without any odd side effcts, but can't target only a giant reaper?

It's all weird space magic. There is nothing in the series to suggest this ability exists and nothing to explain the weird specificity (i.e. VERY accurate when targeting organics, but wildly innacurate when targeting synthetics).