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[Kyzee]

Spiderman_2028 wrote...

HA! Ok, that's awesome. 

[UrgedDuke]

don't know if this has been posted before but its perfect

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Has anybody looked at the PAX schedule? Each day there is this:

11:30am ET – 12:30pm ET: A BioWare Announcement

Does anybody know what that's about?

Speculation!

Also one is probably goign to be DA3 related, The second day is going to announce that they have announcements to make on Sunday about announcements for future announcements.

We'll probably see some news about their Command & Conquer work, maybe some snippest about SWTOR... Outlying ME3 plans in the future. Anything's possible.

[Big G13]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

Gilgamesh117 wrote...

Is it me, or do people not read anymore? Cuz we have been answering the same question about changing the ending for the past ten+ pages

10 pages go by freaking fast in this thread, I can't keep up. Obvsiously. I'm pretty sure as I reply to this you've moved on and talking about something completely different now.. lol. 

....One couple simply put all the answers in their sig to save themselves some future typing . That way you'd just have to type "See my signature, #such and such on the list".

Thats why I can't keep up. Technical ineptitude.

Sorry, I've been playing DA2 as "funny" Hawke... My lack of humor is not lost on me .

No. No. I was being self deprecating, you're good.:wub:

[Big Bad]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Has anybody looked at the PAX schedule? Each day there is this:

11:30am ET – 12:30pm ET: A BioWare Announcement

Does anybody know what that's about?

Speculation!

Also one is probably goign to be DA3 related, The second day is going to announce that they have announcements to make on Sunday about announcements for future announcements.

Yeah, well I'll keep a tiny ember of hope that we'll get some real information burning in my withered and disillusioned heart.

Do we know yet when DA3 is coming out, or is that what the annoucement is for?

[Golferguy758]

So, here's another nice little plothole they would need to explain. if you choose Destroy Tali will now hate you. You wiped out the Geth who were helping the Quarians settle Rannoch. Without the Geth Ish just got real on Rannoch. Not including the fact that you are going to kill a lot of quarians who have the Geth linked into their suits most likely.

[Kyzee]

Okay, I've evidently missed something: the extended cut is *still* going to leave things open for interpretation? Where was this said?

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Golferguy758 wrote...

So, here's another nice little plothole they would need to explain. if you choose Destroy Tali will now hate you. You wiped out the Geth who were helping the Quarians settle Rannoch. Without the Geth Ish just got real on Rannoch. Not including the fact that you are going to kill a lot of quarians who have the Geth linked into their suits most likely.

Speculative. Paragon Shepard would convince her it's for the best and to move on (if Shep is still alive), she has her planet back now and the entire Fleet to look after. Renegade Shepard would tell her to get over it, she herself wanted to kill the geth not long ago, and she has a planet to back to now. The Quarians had always planned to re-adapt to Rannoch without the Geth, bringing peace between them is a huge added bonus for having a high Reputation score, changes the whole shape of their society. Without the Geth they can always change back to their original plans.

Don't forget without that Reputation score you're forced to either side with the Geth or the Quarians, effectivley wiping out one or the other.

Edit: Killing the Geth linked to Quarian suits Could kill them but not necessarily. Can't say for sure if their would be suit ruptures or an explosion, or just a brief system shutdown leaving the suit seals intact.

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 06 avril 2012 - 04:03 .

[Big G13]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

He he ^_~

Well I've done it. I changed my signature, I hope you're all very happy. Holding the damn line!

Also I'd like some clarification I've seen it mentioned a bit some time ago but. The quadmates you take with you at the end, they are dead are they not? I'm asking because I took Javik and Alenko, but during the Normandy crash Kaidan walks out of the ship after Joker and EDI... I was like.... You're dead...?? 

Did you chose destroy or synthesis. Cause there was a long conversation this after noon about no one seeing EDI after the destroy option.

If your EMS is low enough; when you wake up from getting hit by Harbinger's beam, instead of 4 dead alliance  grunts and 1 crawler infront of you you see your 2 squadmates with 2 of the dead alliance grunts + the crawler. As I understand it you also only get the choice of the "default" destroy ending which isn't the same as the good  "destroy" one.

With high enough EMS I've always seen at least one of my squadmates come out of the Normandy crash, or my love interest or both (I took my love interest with me each time I went through the ending).

EDIT: Sorry, I did that wrong.

Modifié par Big G13, 06 avril 2012 - 04:06 .

[Blind Rapture]

IT or bust, and IT doesn't seem likely anymore. Literal ending is as bad as really terrible anime as far as the writing goes.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Blind Rapture wrote...

IT or bust, and IT doesn't seem likely anymore. Literal ending is as bad as really terrible anime as far as the writing goes.

Not all hope is lost. I'd recommend saving final jugdements until after the "Extended Cut" is released.

[Golferguy758]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

So, here's another nice little plothole they would need to explain. if you choose Destroy Tali will now hate you. You wiped out the Geth who were helping the Quarians settle Rannoch. Without the Geth Ish just got real on Rannoch. Not including the fact that you are going to kill a lot of quarians who have the Geth linked into their suits most likely.

Speculative. Paragon Shepard would convince her it's for the best and to move on (if Shep is still alive), she has her planet back now and the entire Fleet to look after. Renegade Shepard would tell her to get over it, she herself wanted to kill the geth not long ago, and she has a planet to back to now. The Quarians had always planned to re-adapt to Rannoch without the Geth, bringing peace between them is a huge added bonus for having a high Reputation score, changes the whole shape of their society. Without the Geth they can always change back to their original plans.

Don't forget without that Reputation score you're forced to either side with the Geth or the Quarians, effectivley wiping out one or the other.

Edit: Killing the Geth linked to Quarian suits Could kill them but not necessarily. Can't say for sure if their would be suit ruptures or an explosion, or just a brief system shutdown leaving the suit seals intact.

on the bright side, I can kill off the geth now with 0 repercussion!


I mean I can understand HOW they'd explain it, but I highly doubt they will. Just speculate!

Think a system shutdown would be kind of bad with that whole need to breath through filters and such 

[PlumPaul93]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Blind Rapture wrote...

IT or bust, and IT doesn't seem likely anymore. Literal ending is as bad as really terrible anime as far as the writing goes.

Not all hope is lost. I'd recommend saving final jugdements until after the "Extended Cut" is released.

Dang I thought you guys were going to let go of this theory after the Pax stuff.

[byne]

Before I go to bed, I want to say one thing I would like you guys to keep in mind about today's DLC announcement:

It literally changes nothing, nor gives new information we didnt already have.

Bioware has been saying for the past few weeks that they were planning content to expand more upon the endings, but that they had no plans for entirely new endings.

All the announcement today did was make that official, and clarify what exactly they meant.

All you people who are losing hope in IT need to keep in mind the fact that nothing has changed.

Good night. <3

[savagejuicebox]

Blind Rapture wrote...

IT or bust, and IT doesn't seem likely anymore. Literal ending is as bad as really terrible anime as far as the writing goes.

This is exactly what i thought before i put all the pieces together for the IT. A most terrible anime ending.

[Eshaye]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

He he ^_~

Well I've done it. I changed my signature, I hope you're all very happy. Holding the damn line!

Also I'd like some clarification I've seen it mentioned a bit some time ago but. The quadmates you take with you at the end, they are dead are they not? I'm asking because I took Javik and Alenko, but during the Normandy crash Kaidan walks out of the ship after Joker and EDI... I was like.... You're dead...?? 

If your EMS is low enough; when you wake up from getting hit by Harbinger's beam, instead of 4 dead alliance  grunts and 1 crawler infront of you you see your 2 squadmates with 2 of the dead alliance grunts + the crawler. As I understand it you also only get the choice of the "default" destroy ending which isn't the same as the good  "destroy" one.

With high enough EMS I've always seen at least one of my squadmates come out of the Normandy crash, or my love interest or both (I took my love interest with me each time I went through the ending).

Ahhh. OKay. Good then. :happy:

edit: I chose synthesis. But next round I'm going destroy. Sorry Tali. And Joker.

Modifié par Eshaye, 06 avril 2012 - 04:13 .

[Fhaarkas]

Quite why there were so many peeps expecting a 'lost chapter' I can't quite comprehend. From the very beginning I always expected IT to be clarified or reinforced with only cutscenes and cinematics.

My 1 1/2 cents Worth Train of Thoughts:

[Assuming there are some hidden plots - IT or not]
The sequence with Starchild was the "encounter with god" moment for the game, the final test/fight. And what can logically follow for me is only a conclusion (or in this case a clarification) and not further conflicts or boss fights. To do otherwise would be to take away the significance of that final sequence.

Why wasn't this in the plan?

Remember that rumor about how ME 3 ending was hijacked at the last minute? This quote always makes sense to me on why the ending felt rather.. cryptic and non-sensical to a lot of people.

The stuff with the Catalyst just... You have to understand. Casey is really smart and really analytical. And the problem is that when he's not checked, he will assume that other people are like him, and will really appreciate an almost completely unemotional intellectual ending.

It might or might not be true, but it would provide a possible explaination on why they weren't quite expecting the kind of backlash that they got.

I like to think that they (or allegedly, Hudson and Walters) were trying to pull an Inception-kind of ending (where the viewer is mindf***ed in the end). What they seemed to forget is that this is a 5-year long saga, with 100+ hours spent between the three games. It is not a 2-hour film where it's relatively easy to keep your attention to details. Details are lost, and I bet very few people would have gotten it if not for the post-game analysis and research. I know I didn't.

"I didn't want the game to be forgettable. Even right down to the sort of polarizing reaction that the ends have had with people - debating what the endings mean and what's going to happen next, and what situation are the characters left in."

And now, since so many players didn't get/appreciate it (and honestly, who can blame them? Players were totally caught off-guard - here they were expecting the final fight to be some epic battle scenes a la LOTR but they got a Deus Ex Machina a la Matrix instead) they're gonna have to 'clarify' and 'expand' it. I read this as 'to reinforce the possibility of a hidden plot, while neither confirming nor denying it. Oh, closures too.'

[Assuming there are no hidden plots - everything that happened (in the finale), happened] 
For me this is the worst case scenario.

Regardless of what they will come up with and how awesome it's gonna be, it won't take away the sentiment that the original ending sequence is full of.. well.. space magic. It won't take away the sentiment that players were RGBed and that it was all a total train wreck. It also won't take away the sentiment that players are deprived off their choices (by leaving no room for interpretations).

I don't know about you, but I find this just as unlikely to happen as a 'lost chapter.' And if it does turn out to be the case, my mind would be equally blown. The game would be unforgettable alright - as the game that killed BioWare. Would they have a death wish?

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Great.. I've lost my train. 

Anyway, I'm not even a writer so what do I know. inb4 this post get pluto-ed omega-ed. Cheers.

Modifié par Fhaarkas, 06 avril 2012 - 04:13 .

[Big G13]

byne wrote...

Before I go to bed, I want to say one thing I would like you guys to keep in mind about today's DLC announcement:

It literally changes nothing, nor gives new information we didnt already have.

Bioware has been saying for the past few weeks that they were planning content to expand more upon the endings, but that they had no plans for entirely new endings.

All the announcement today did was make that official, and clarify what exactly they meant.

All you people who are losing hope in IT need to keep in mind the fact that nothing has changed.

Good night. <3

Thanks byne, sweet little blue baby dreams.

[N7L4D]

byne wrote...

Before I go to bed, I want to say one thing I would like you guys to keep in mind about today's DLC announcement:

It literally changes nothing, nor gives new information we didnt already have.

Bioware has been saying for the past few weeks that they were planning content to expand more upon the endings, but that they had no plans for entirely new endings.

All the announcement today did was make that official, and clarify what exactly they meant.

All you people who are losing hope in IT need to keep in mind the fact that nothing has changed.

Good night. <3

Well said commander, hoo-raaaa lol

[Big G13]

Eshaye wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Eshaye wrote...

He he ^_~

Well I've done it. I changed my signature, I hope you're all very happy. Holding the damn line!

Also I'd like some clarification I've seen it mentioned a bit some time ago but. The quadmates you take with you at the end, they are dead are they not? I'm asking because I took Javik and Alenko, but during the Normandy crash Kaidan walks out of the ship after Joker and EDI... I was like.... You're dead...?? 

If your EMS is low enough; when you wake up from getting hit by Harbinger's beam, instead of 4 dead alliance  grunts and 1 crawler infront of you you see your 2 squadmates with 2 of the dead alliance grunts + the crawler. As I understand it you also only get the choice of the "default" destroy ending which isn't the same as the good  "destroy" one.

With high enough EMS I've always seen at least one of my squadmates come out of the Normandy crash, or my love interest or both (I took my love interest with me each time I went through the ending).

Ahhh. OKay. Good then. :happy:

edit: I chose synthesis. But next round I'm going destroy. Sorry Tali. And Joker.

Thank you. 

[Blind Rapture]

Blind Rapture wrote...

IT or bust, and IT doesn't seem likely anymore. Literal ending is as bad as really terrible anime as far as the writing goes.

I would like to make an addendum. If we actually get to see Liara with a little blue baby, I will forgive everything (who could resist that?)! But considering the Tali's face debacle, that's even less likely than the IT still being true!

Modifié par Blind Rapture, 06 avril 2012 - 04:17 .

[Christopher Sheperd_]

OVER 1200 pages.....

Just saying. 3 week's after the game has come out, and this still exists.

Just saying....

[Kyzee]

Shameless bump; hoping for answer.

Kyzee wrote...

Okay, I've evidently missed something: the extended cut is *still* going to leave things open for interpretation? Where was this said?

[Gilgamesh117]

byne wrote...

Before I go to bed, I want to say one thing I would like you guys to keep in mind about today's DLC announcement:

It literally changes nothing, nor gives new information we didnt already have.

Bioware has been saying for the past few weeks that they were planning content to expand more upon the endings, but that they had no plans for entirely new endings.

All the announcement today did was make that official, and clarify what exactly they meant.

All you people who are losing hope in IT need to keep in mind the fact that nothing has changed.

Good night. <3

Byne-Commander has spoken. Troops renew your faith, for we still have one last battle. We will fight, we will strive, we will persevere. 
THEY CAN TAKE OUR ENDINGS,, BUT THEY WILL NEVER TAKE OUR THEORIES!!!!

[Dance Craze]

I just wish bioware did not make it sound like they are only doing this to appease their whining baby fan base. Not our fault they screwed the pooch