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[Red Starblazer]

Golferguy758 wrote...

Well, may as well keep up tradition for PAX. I find the Majora's mask reference even more apt with the moon falling and destroying everypony's hopes and dreams.

http://t0.gstatic.co...UCyLjD3udWGoVwQ

That was perfect. Thank you for making me crack up and look like a loon in front of others. lmao

[baruaru]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Oh, another one of those "dire ramifacations" they were talking about. i'm sure it was mentioned before but this one is such a mess, i just have to bring it up one more time, in order to complete my "no consequence" list.

Killimg the rachni quee in me1 leads to...the rachni still being around? The only consequence was a minor drop in my war assets. it didn't even hurt my ems rating to a point it would actually matter.

Just to fix what you said... If you dont save the rachni on the ME1, youll not see the rachni, but instead, their fake ones that reapers created. (Besides, theres a extra dialog for ME2 if she survived, and extra for ME3 if she is not alive & and you saved the breeder.)

Modifié par baruaru, 06 avril 2012 - 11:44 .

[Skillz1986]

I imagine salarian kids would also be a pain.

"hey son,need help with your homework? I've got some spare time if need be"

"don't need help, homework already finished. writing paper on own studies, your help appreciated but irrelevant"

"i'll just..fix the garage door instead, yeah."

[Skillz1986]

" Just to fix what you said... If you dont save the rachni on the ME1, youll not see the rachni, but instead, their fake ones that reapers created."

Riiigt. and they look and behave so much different from those you actually saved right? Still same difference to me. hence, no consequence. not trying to be hostile here. It's hard to imply tone via text.

[Gernbuster]

Just imagined what could happen if the CURRENT ending is right and IDT is completly wrong:

Imagine the whole fleets get destroyed because the activated mass relays are gone and they run out of fuel etc. can't survive on earth over some generations etc.
300 years after the Reaper war. Humanity finally got back their technological standard and start to rebuilt a mass relay out of the huge amount of e-zero from the ships and the last mass relay.
Maybe you find diactivated mass relays and get different clusters to visit. You play a grand grand child of Shep,(if he survived), or another Shep from a far family tree. You meet the other species again, but most of them are pissed, because they don't know what exactly happend and their whole fleet was gone during the reaper war. And your job is to rebuilt the council and reunion the aliens again.

[Tr0n01d]

It's hard to imply tone via
text.


Badassfully : the last statement is wrong !

Modifié par Tr0n01d, 06 avril 2012 - 11:48 .

[baruaru]

Skillz1986 wrote...

" Just to fix what you said... If you dont save the rachni on the ME1, youll not see the rachni, but instead, their fake ones that reapers created."

Riiigt. and they look and behave so much different from those you actually saved right? Still same difference to me. hence, no consequence. not trying to be hostile here. It's hard to imply tone via text.

Btw, i forgot to say that the fake queen will take away some Alliance fleet War Assets aswell.

[Skillz1986]

" Badassfully : the last statement is wrong !"
Well..touché...i guess

[Skillz1986]

Yeah..as i said..a drop in ems. that's all. i think it's ridiculous. don't know about the rest of you.

[Legion109]

Skillz1986 wrote...

I imagine salarian kids would also be a pain.

"hey son,need help with your homework? I've got some spare time if need be"

"don't need help, homework already finished. writing paper on own studies, your help appreciated but irrelevant"

"i'll just..fix the garage door instead, yeah."

This is classic

- We dont hold lines in Las Vegas we do lines -

Indoception - the belief it was an Indoctrination in a Hallucination caused by the Indoctrination in the Dreams.

[baruaru]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Yeah..as i said..a drop in ems. that's all. i think it's ridiculous. don't know about the rest of you.

Im more of sad at.... Not seeing her workers on action at crucible. (sadface

















Everyone is forgeting about Raloi.... Poor avian specie, rofl. We didnt even had chance to see their face.

Modifié par baruaru, 06 avril 2012 - 12:01 .

[Fhaarkas]

Shooter__Andy wrote...

Fhaarkas wrote...

The Reapers were at advantage in both numbers and strength (there's no telling if those were all of them anyway, if it's mentioned somewhere then I'm sorry). They gained their strength from fallen enemies. They indoctrinated some and killed the others. They got stronger as their enemies got weaker. Even if the ground force were defeated, what would they make of those Harbinger and Sovereign-class Reapers? There were quite a few (thousands) of them.

I don't know about that. We never saw more than half a thousand Reapers, in fact, the most we saw of them was in the end of ME2, where we saw roughly three hundreds of them and that's probably including the Destroyers.

Also, Reapers aren't really invulnerable, as evidenced by the Sovereign. Their strongest defense by far are the shields, which, obviously, could be switched off in one way or another. Then, even one lucky shot can utterly destroy even the flagship-class Reaper.

So yeah, there certainly were different ways to go with the wiriting of the final battle, the most obvious one being that the Crucible temporarily drops the shields of the Reapers, kinda like what happened to the Geth fleet earlier, providing a nice parallel.

Nay I never said they were invulnerable . But it sure is hard to kill one without a battleship. Not to mention they can be easily replaced as well. And then about the numbers -

Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.

Sovereign

We are each a nation

Sovereign

And the Wiki has this to say -

The quote is put further into perspective when the nature of Reaper construction is revealed aboard the Collector base, when it is discovered that each Reaper is constructed from the genetic material of a particular species, culture, or "nation."

Surely that must be at least some tens of thousands?

Modifié par Fhaarkas, 06 avril 2012 - 12:01 .

[FrostByte-GER]

Epic:

[Spiderman_2028]

Shooter__Andy wrote...

The Geth are dead. You killed them when you picked Destroy. Every one of them. Just when they reached individuality. Also you've destroyed the only non-Geth AI, based on the technology of the Reapers and rogue VI, thus proving that synthetics aren't evil by default. And yet you've extinguished her life too. You've made the re-population of Rannoch less likely not only by destroying the Geth but also by blowing up Mass Relays.

Everything is your fault.

Oh, but not if the ending is a hallucination... Because if it's indoc-. Ah, screw it. :wizard:

[LeRavelle]

Fhaarkas wrote...

Shooter__Andy wrote...

Fhaarkas wrote...

The Reapers were at advantage in both numbers and strength (there's no telling if those were all of them anyway, if it's mentioned somewhere then I'm sorry). They gained their strength from fallen enemies. They indoctrinated some and killed the others. They got stronger as their enemies got weaker. Even if the ground force were defeated, what would they make of those Harbinger and Sovereign-class Reapers? There were quite a few (thousands) of them.

I don't know about that. We never saw more than half a thousand Reapers, in fact, the most we saw of them was in the end of ME2, where we saw roughly three hundreds of them and that's probably including the Destroyers.

Also, Reapers aren't really invulnerable, as evidenced by the Sovereign. Their strongest defense by far are the shields, which, obviously, could be switched off in one way or another. Then, even one lucky shot can utterly destroy even the flagship-class Reaper.

So yeah, there certainly were different ways to go with the wiriting of the final battle, the most obvious one being that the Crucible temporarily drops the shields of the Reapers, kinda like what happened to the Geth fleet earlier, providing a nice parallel.

Nay I never said they were invulnerable . But it sure is hard to kill one without a battleship. Not to mention they can be easily replaced as well. And then about the numbers -

Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.

Sovereign

We are each a nation

Sovereign

And the Wiki has this to say -

The quote is put further into perspective when the nature of Reaper construction is revealed aboard the Collector base, when it is discovered that each Reaper is constructed from the genetic material of a particular species, culture, or "nation."

Surely that must be at least some tens of thousands?

They had 50 thousand years to assemble their army so it would be naturual their numbers are massive.

[Martukis]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Yeah..as i said..a drop in ems. that's all. i think it's ridiculous. don't know about the rest of you.

 Well, yeah, most of the difference is behind the scenes - after all, if it is the original queen, the rachni workers initially scare the alliance techs and such, but eventually start working together and amazing them. If it is the artificial one, they eventually turn on the others and destroy/kill many resources. There was no justification for Shep experiencing this first hand. That said, there are limits in artificial reality, and in role play a certain extent of suspended belief and meaning have to come from the player. Yeah, there is apparently no difference in ME3 if in ME2 I gave the recovered data from the cerberus' operative's interrogation to the Alliance, or Cerberus or kept it for myself. But it has meaning to me, because in my mind it was Shep's intent to keep it, have EDI decode it (she explains that the Alliance would take 10+ years, while she would take 1-2 years, if you experiment with the options) and eventually use it against cerberus or the reapers.

[Shooter__Andy]

Fhaarkas wrote...
Nay I never said they were invulnerable . But it sure is hard to kill one without a battleship.

 
Well, Sovereign was killed basically by one direct shot from the Normandy...

Fhaarkas wrote... 
 Not to mention they can be easily replaced as well.

Uhm... How? Creating a flagship-type Reaper is a VERY complicated process, and long too. Remember what we did in ME2? We were stopping that. And stopped it with just several people without any further support.

Our numbers will darken the sky of every world.

 
Yes, and Sovereign also said that their motives are incomprehensible and that they will bring only destruction. I wouldn't trust a word he says.

We are each a nation

Which means that they have collective mind in every one of them, like the Geth had, but it doesn't indicate what the numbers of such "nations" are.

In fact, for them to have just one thousand flagships, even without any one of them being destroyed (which we know isn't the case as we saw at least two destroyed Reaper flagships), even without the cases like Protheans which couldn't be made into a flagship, they'd have to be at least 50 MILLIONS years old. Which is somewhat doubtful, though not impossible, I admit.

[Blubox]

Ok, what was it? "Take back earth"? At what point did we actually do that?

[Skillz1986]

@martukis. yes but that wa exactly my point from the beginning. they promissed us consequences (among many other things). But as it turns out, these promises are only true, if your imagination is strong enough, so you can imagine what happened next. which is bs in my eyes, but maybe that's just me and big g13. And i knew all those behind the scenes stuff with the real and fake rachni queen, as i am a very thorough gamer and always try to read through all the stuff ingame. but thanks for your effort (honestly)

[Chaosbrain]

Hey everyone, haven't been here for a few days and I just read something about an extended edition which will add some cutscenes to the current endings... Did I miss something? Did BioWare say IT is wrong?

[Shooter__Andy]

Although the Leviathan of Dis was dated as being a billion years old... Which I'm pretty sure is impossible since it would be destroyed by erosion and temperature shifts...

In other words, I don't know.

[Spiderman_2028]

Blubox wrote...

Ok, what was it? "Take back earth"? At what point did we actually do that?

Again- says it all perfectly...

[Tirian Thorn]

Chaosbrain wrote...

Hey everyone, haven't been here for a few days and I just read something about an extended edition which will add some cutscenes to the current endings... Did I miss something? Did BioWare say IT is wrong?

Required reading below

http://blog.bioware....3-extended-cut/

Extended Cut-scenes and epilogues

http://imageshack.us...7/21951266.jpg/

They will not confirm or deny IT

[UrgentArchengel]

Chaosbrain wrote...

Hey everyone, haven't been here for a few days and I just read something about an extended edition which will add some cutscenes to the current endings... Did I miss something? Did BioWare say IT is wrong?

Naw, they basically said they were gonna provide closure and clarify the ending.  Basically that's what IT is anyways so we'll see.

[DashingSplash]

Blubox wrote...

Ok, what was it? "Take back earth"? At what point did we actually do that?

You do take back earth.