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[DirtyPhoenix]

yagaelvin wrote...

So after reading about the "Extended Cut", I have a few thoughts

1.  This still doesn't discount the IT no matter what people are posting on the board.  IT could still be the clarification after all.  

2.  It's unclear on whether or not there will be gameplay involved however.  Someone (Mike Gamble?) said it would be more than a few cinematics but that doesn't say anything about gameplay.

And most importantly,

3. How can people hate this already when they haven't even seen it yet?!?!?  I just don't get it <_<

I agree. We should wait until we atleast get some more info before hating.

[Tirian Thorn]

Dwailing wrote...

Guys, look what I found! http://twitter.com/#...273953599533056

Canned answer.

When customer call our company with product suggestions our customer service always tells them they'll pass that suggestion on to management. 

Do you know what we do in management meetings?  We laugh at the stupid product suggestions!  LOL

[DashingSplash]

Hacedor1566 wrote...

Seems you didn't read through what I just wrote.
Please read it once more before answering again. 

[Fhaarkas]

yagaelvin wrote...

So after reading about the "Extended Cut", I have a few thoughts

1.  This still doesn't discount the IT no matter what people are posting on the board.  IT could still be the clarification after all.  

2.  It's unclear on whether or not there will be gameplay involved however.  Someone (Mike Gamble?) said it would be more than a few cinematics but that doesn't say anything about gameplay.

And most importantly,

3. How can people hate this already when they haven't even seen it yet?!?!?  I just don't get it <_<

Hear hear.

[Tirian Thorn]

yagaelvin wrote...

So after reading about the "Extended Cut", I have a few thoughts

1.  This still doesn't discount the IT no matter what people are posting on the board.  IT could still be the clarification after all.  

2.  It's unclear on whether or not there will be gameplay involved however.  Someone (Mike Gamble?) said it would be more than a few cinematics but that doesn't say anything about gameplay.

And most importantly,

3. How can people hate this already when they haven't even seen it yet?!?!?  I just don't get it <_<

What I took away from it is this:
Bioware has an “artistic vision” and they will not deviate from that.  Meaning they had a plan all along and they’re not changing that.  But they WILL dangle that thing on the end of the string a little lower, but not so low that we can tell if it’s a carrot or not yet. 

[DirtyPhoenix]

ConVito wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

So after reading about the "Extended Cut", I have a few thoughts

1.  This still doesn't discount the IT no matter what people are posting on the board.  IT could still be the clarification after all.  

2.  It's unclear on whether or not there will be gameplay involved however.  Someone (Mike Gamble?) said it would be more than a few cinematics but that doesn't say anything about gameplay.

And most importantly,

3. How can people hate this already when they haven't even seen it yet?!?!?  I just don't get it <_<

In response to number 3, it's because if the retakers calmed down and admitted for just a second that BioWare might not be a horrible company with terrible writers, they'd lose all their power. This stopped being about the actual ending issue a long time ago. It's since become a desperate struggle for the retakers to avoid admitting they might have been wrong about something.

I'd be perfectly happy with any explanation, IT or not.. however hard that maybe, what happened to the people i brought togather for the fight. Also, what if they show your fight with Harbinger in cutscenes depending on your choices in the game (Like how your crew mates survive or die depending on whether you upgraded the ship or not). Thoughts?

[macrocarl]

Cucobr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Guys, look what I found! http://twitter.com/#...273953599533056

automatic answer.
If you say you want the Shepard able to fly, will receive the same answer

Actually, can someone with a Twitter account ask if Shephard can fly in future DLC? You know just to see what they say

[yagaelvin]

ConVito wrote...

yagaelvin wrote...

So after reading about the "Extended Cut", I have a few thoughts

1.  This still doesn't discount the IT no matter what people are posting on the board.  IT could still be the clarification after all.  

2.  It's unclear on whether or not there will be gameplay involved however.  Someone (Mike Gamble?) said it would be more than a few cinematics but that doesn't say anything about gameplay.

And most importantly,

3. How can people hate this already when they haven't even seen it yet?!?!?  I just don't get it <_<

In response to number 3, it's because if the retakers calmed down and admitted for just a second that BioWare might not be a horrible company with terrible writers, they'd lose all their power. This stopped being about the actual ending issue a long time ago. It's since become a desperate struggle for the retakers to avoid admitting they might have been wrong about something.

True enough.  Keep in mind that most of the "re-takers" don't outright hate Bioware or ME., they just hate the ending  It's just that most of the more vocal ones are the ones creating all of the hate threads and posts about Bioware and such

[NikolaiShade]

yagaelvin wrote...

So after reading about the "Extended Cut", I have a few thoughts

1.  This still doesn't discount the IT no matter what people are posting on the board.  IT could still be the clarification after all.  

2.  It's unclear on whether or not there will be gameplay involved however.  Someone (Mike Gamble?) said it would be more than a few cinematics but that doesn't say anything about gameplay.

And most importantly,

3. How can people hate this already when they haven't even seen it yet?!?!?  I just don't get it <_<

1 - IT is still one of the best ways to explain the endings. They should have announced it already thought, so it's unlikely but still possibly the best way out

2 - I highly doubt there will be any gameplay.

3 - Hate the DLC in itself, no. Hate the announcement, a little. Closure should be already in the game and clarification too.

Edit - Forgot about artistic integrity. The game is a product for the fans until the last ten minutes. The ending(s) taken at face value are there just to boost the ego of the writers.

Modifié par NikolaiShade, 06 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[Dwailing]

So, where should I go to get info on the 11:30 Bioware announcement at PAX?

[Skillz1986]

The way i see it (might ass well be wrong), the majority of the people being unhappy with the ending..are people who wanted bioware to outright change the ending (retakers). Since bioware would never put out to statements (one addressed at retakers and the ither addressed at speculators), i believe the statement targets people who DEMAND (this is so ridiculos) a new ending. hence..idt is not dead at all.

[Voodzik]

Okay. I'll admit, I'm still holding the line but....confidence greatly shaken by that extended cut announcement, I will not lie.

Part of me just can't give in yet, though. The endings are awful. Objectively awful. There's a difference between an utter failure of narrative and artistic integrity. And indoctrination would be so GOOD. Gahhhhhh....

Well, with any luck we'll know in a few hours.

Edit, grammar.

Modifié par Voodzik, 06 avril 2012 - 03:16 .

[Mr. Mistake]

Voodzik wrote...

Okay. I'll admit, I'm still holding the line but....confidence greatly shaken by that extended cut announcement, I will not lie.

Part of me just can't give in yet, though. The endings are awful. Objectively awful. There's a difference between an utter failure of narrative and artistic integrity. And indoctrination would be so GOOD. Gahhhhhh....

Well, with any luck we'll know in a few hours.

Edit, grammar.

Same here. Would be nice if no matter what the verdict was a gentle soul posted it.

P.S.
Cool avatar.

[Eshaye]

Well today's the day! Just hope the announcement isn't that there will be an announcement or the same thing we heard yesterday. It might be. :S

[vrumpt]

Anybody know is somebody will be liveblogging the announcement hour?

[Fhaarkas]

Question - if they have gone to great length to foreshadow IT in the first place, why would they later make any sort of confirmation on its truth? I can imagine if it's 10 years down the line in one of those "back in the old days" interviews, but not anytime soon.

[Voodzik]

Mr. Mistake wrote...

Voodzik wrote...

Okay. I'll admit, I'm still holding the line but....confidence greatly shaken by that extended cut announcement, I will not lie.

Part of me just can't give in yet, though. The endings are awful. Objectively awful. There's a difference between an utter failure of narrative and artistic integrity. And indoctrination would be so GOOD. Gahhhhhh....

Well, with any luck we'll know in a few hours.

Same here. Would be nice if no matter what the verdict was a gentle soul posted it.

Yeah it would. And...and they CAN'T actually think those endings were good, right? I mean I've grown up in publishing, I mentioned that before, so I've seen people with blinders on about their writing. But this would take an actual blind-FOLD.

[yagaelvin]

Fhaarkas wrote...

Question - if they have gone to great length to foreshadow IT in the first place, why would they later make any sort of confirmation on its truth? I can imagine if it's 10 years down the line in one of those "back in the old days" interviews, but not anytime soon.

Exactly, that would ruin the whole thing.  I always thought that the fact they have never dismissed the theory outright is sort of telling 

[Skillz1986]

" Question - if they have gone to great length to foreshadow IT in the first place, why would they later make any sort of confirmation on its truth? I can imagine if it's 10 years down the line in one of those "back in the old days" interviews, but not anytime soon."

Because the just did not expect such a negative backlash. so they want people to be clear about what happened in the last ten minutes.
At least, that's what i hope

[Trollgunner]

Really, I still can't imagine how it will be hard to wait 'till summer for DLC. This week already proved that a lot of ppl at their limit. At least I am T^T

[Mr. Mistake]

holyDEATHTRAP wrote...

The more time that passes the more I think there's alot of truth to this. Its the only way I can think of for why the endings are so in your face bad. Its like they intentionally made it as unacceptable as possible and impossible to ignore. [...]

These words have wisdom in them.

[Cucobr]

macrocarl wrote...

Cucobr wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Guys, look what I found! http://twitter.com/#...273953599533056

automatic answer.
If you say you want the Shepard able to fly, will receive the same answer

Actually, can someone with a Twitter account ask if Shephard can fly in future DLC? You know just to see what they say

Modifié par Cucobr, 06 avril 2012 - 03:35 .

[Voodzik]

Skillz1986 wrote...

" Question - if they have gone to great length to foreshadow IT in the first place, why would they later make any sort of confirmation on its truth? I can imagine if it's 10 years down the line in one of those "back in the old days" interviews, but not anytime soon."

Because the just did not expect such a negative backlash. so they want people to be clear about what happened in the last ten minutes.
At least, that's what i hope

Well these are both good points, but at this point I'm kind of hoping they plan on keeping a lid on it...would explain that extended cut announcement.

But also, while I do hope for IT....I bought the game less than an hour after it became available in the first region it came out in. I had it pre-ordered for months. I had to get a ride from a friend to make it to the midnight release. And I was sad, SAD, that I couldn't afford any of the N7 t-shirts they were selling.

And if IT is true, what I got in return for my devotion to this story was being jerked around with for a few weeks more than anyone else. It just feels like getting punished for getting the game early. And while I don't hate bioware, THAT thought makes me kind of mad.